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Kelly McMullen
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 Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:12 am Post subject: Baggage floor angles |
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I am getting ready to rivet the tailcone to the fuselage, and it seems
like the F-1023L&R angles ought to be riveted to the F-1070L&R side
skins before access gets more difficult. I've searched through
sections 29, 30, 32,33 to the point where the baggage floors are
riveted, and can't find callouts for the rivets nor where the angles
actually get riveted. I see on some builder's websites that they back
riveted the angles on before putting the side skins on, but I must be
missing the step where Van's intends these to be riveted. Any reason I
shouldn't go ahead and rivet them before riveting the tail cone on?
Kelly
40866
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LarryRosen
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| Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:40 am Post subject: Baggage floor angles |
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Kelly,
Are you talking about the F-1023B Baggage Floor Angles? Look on Page
33-7 step 2. AN426AD3-3.5 to the F-1070
Larry
Kelly McMullen wrote:
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I am getting ready to rivet the tailcone to the fuselage, and it seems
like the F-1023L&R angles ought to be riveted to the F-1070L&R side
skins before access gets more difficult. I've searched through
sections 29, 30, 32,33 to the point where the baggage floors are
riveted, and can't find callouts for the rivets nor where the angles
actually get riveted. I see on some builder's websites that they back
riveted the angles on before putting the side skins on, but I must be
missing the step where Van's intends these to be riveted. Any reason I
shouldn't go ahead and rivet them before riveting the tail cone on?
Kelly
40866
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Kelly McMullen
Joined: 16 Apr 2008
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Location: Sun Lakes AZ
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| Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:16 am Post subject: Baggage floor angles |
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No, that goes on top of the floor. I'm looking at the angle underneath
it and the floor.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Larry Rosen <N205EN(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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Kelly,
Are you talking about the F-1023B Baggage Floor Angles? Look on Page 33-7
step 2. AN426AD3-3.5 to the F-1070
Larry
Kelly McMullen wrote:
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> I am getting ready to rivet the tailcone to the fuselage, and it seems
> like the F-1023L&R angles ought to be riveted to the F-1070L&R side
> skins before access gets more difficult. I've searched through
> sections 29, 30, 32,33 to the point where the baggage floors are
> riveted, and can't find callouts for the rivets nor where the angles
> actually get riveted. I see on some builder's websites that they back
> riveted the angles on before putting the side skins on, but I must be
> missing the step where Van's intends these to be riveted. Any reason I
> shouldn't go ahead and rivet them before riveting the tail cone on?
> Kelly
> 40866
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Kelly McMullen
Joined: 16 Apr 2008
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Location: Sun Lakes AZ
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| Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:19 am Post subject: Baggage floor angles |
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Found the answer to my question, Section 29-16, step 9, sorta buried
in the text. Just some of the fun of how you have to pick out things
on the QB that aren't done, from a lot of other stuff that is done.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | No, that goes on top of the floor. I'm looking at the angle underneath
it and the floor.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Larry Rosen <N205EN(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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> Kelly,
> Are you talking about the F-1023B Baggage Floor Angles? Look on Page 33-7
> step 2. AN426AD3-3.5 to the F-1070
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> Larry
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> Kelly McMullen wrote:
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>> I am getting ready to rivet the tailcone to the fuselage, and it seems
>> like the F-1023L&R angles ought to be riveted to the F-1070L&R side
>> skins before access gets more difficult. I've searched through
>> sections 29, 30, 32,33 to the point where the baggage floors are
>> riveted, and can't find callouts for the rivets nor where the angles
>> actually get riveted. I see on some builder's websites that they back
>> riveted the angles on before putting the side skins on, but I must be
>> missing the step where Van's intends these to be riveted. Any reason I
>> shouldn't go ahead and rivet them before riveting the tail cone on?
>> Kelly
>> 40866
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ninepapa(at)bendbroadband
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| Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:20 am Post subject: Baggage floor angles |
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Kelly
How about 29-8 Figures 2 & 3.
Better pictures.
John
On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
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Found the answer to my question, Section 29-16, step 9, sorta buried
in the text. Just some of the fun of how you have to pick out things
on the QB that aren't done, from a lot of other stuff that is done.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> No, that goes on top of the floor. I'm looking at the angle underneath
> it and the floor.
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Larry Rosen <N205EN(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Kelly,
>> Are you talking about the F-1023B Baggage Floor Angles? Look on Page 33-7
>> step 2. AN426AD3-3.5 to the F-1070
>>
>> Larry
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>> Kelly McMullen wrote:
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>>> I am getting ready to rivet the tailcone to the fuselage, and it seems
>>> like the F-1023L&R angles ought to be riveted to the F-1070L&R side
>>> skins before access gets more difficult. I've searched through
>>> sections 29, 30, 32,33 to the point where the baggage floors are
>>> riveted, and can't find callouts for the rivets nor where the angles
>>> actually get riveted. I see on some builder's websites that they back
>>> riveted the angles on before putting the side skins on, but I must be
>>> missing the step where Van's intends these to be riveted. Any reason I
>>> shouldn't go ahead and rivet them before riveting the tail cone on?
>>> Kelly
>>> 40866
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Kelly McMullen
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| Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:01 pm Post subject: Baggage floor angles |
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Yes, those are the rivet callouts. Got it all done. Thanks
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:19 PM, John Hilger
<ninepapa(at)bendbroadband.com> wrote:
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Kelly
How about 29-8 Figures 2 & 3.
Better pictures.
John
On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
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> Found the answer to my question, Section 29-16, step 9, sorta buried
> in the text. Just some of the fun of how you have to pick out things
> on the QB that aren't done, from a lot of other stuff that is done.
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>> No, that goes on top of the floor. I'm looking at the angle underneath
>> it and the floor.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Larry Rosen <N205EN(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Kelly,
>>> Are you talking about the F-1023B Baggage Floor Angles? Look on Page 33-7
>>> step 2. AN426AD3-3.5 to the F-1070
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am getting ready to rivet the tailcone to the fuselage, and it seems
>>>> like the F-1023L&R angles ought to be riveted to the F-1070L&R side
>>>> skins before access gets more difficult. I've searched through
>>>> sections 29, 30, 32,33 to the point where the baggage floors are
>>>> riveted, and can't find callouts for the rivets nor where the angles
>>>> actually get riveted. I see on some builder's websites that they back
>>>> riveted the angles on before putting the side skins on, but I must be
>>>> missing the step where Van's intends these to be riveted. Any reason I
>>>> shouldn't go ahead and rivet them before riveting the tail cone on?
>>>> Kelly
>>>> 40866
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woxofswa
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:23 am Post subject: Re: Baggage floor angles |
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I had a big scare with those 1023B's.
I was rooting around my parts drawers and found the virgin parts still covered in vinyl. I searched the part number which led me to this thread. I panicked thinking I hadn't installed them and they are covered by other panels so they can't be seen. Fortunately I found pix in my log showing them installed. Van's must have sent me extra copies of the parts.
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Kelly McMullen
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:05 pm Post subject: Baggage floor angles |
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That is better than Bonanzacrafters non-existent quality control. I
was working on the pieces that attach the wing root fairings, and
found the nut plates for the bottom fairing were installed without the
screw holes getting any dimpling. Guess I will need to drill out those
rivets, dimple and re-rivet the nutplates back on. Then I went to do
the forward tank support brackets, that attach with a couple AN3-5A
bolts into the fuselage side. Natcherly, the nutplates were installed,
but the bolt holes never finish drilled, so had to drill them
carefully to not burr the nut plates, and will have to live with no
de-burr of the inner side of the holes. Just sloppy work. Oh, and if
the brackets ever had a part label, it was long gone, so had to
identify by shape, size and hole locations. Little things that make
building so educational and recreational. 
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:23 AM, woxofswa <woxof(at)aol.com> wrote:
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I had a big scare with those 1023B's.
I was rooting around my parts drawers and found the virgin parts still covered in vinyl. I searched the part number which led me to this thread. I panicked thinking I hadn't installed them and they are covered by other panels so they can't be seen. Fortunately I found pix in my log showing them installed. Van's must have sent me extra copies of the parts.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, finishing kit in progress.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Baggage floor angles |
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Kinda glad I did not have the money for the qb now. I have heard of many things that had to be taken apart and redone by other builders too. I spent 9 weeks/205 hours getting to the qb stage. Glad you have the patience to deal with it. Working on the cabin top now. Take care.
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