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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:18 pm    Post subject: Purging a Rotax with an oil thermostat. |   |  
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				| Hi group
 Here's an interesting post from a guy on the Rotax group about purging a 912S with an oil thermostat:
 http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=87494
 
 I have a 914 and will be installing a Mocal oil thermostat.
 Ron Parigoris
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:54 am    Post subject: Purging a Rotax with an oil thermostat. |   |  
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				| On 03/16/2011 05:18 AM, rparigoris wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | I have a 914 and will be installing a Mocal oil thermostat. 
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 Have you thought about installing a mocal oil to water heat exchanger?
 The Finnish guys are flying with these and use them for heating up the
 oil as well as for cooling. (also when they make trips to warm south
 European fields during summer, and they seem to experience less cooling
 problems than other folks). They use it instead of an air cooled oil
 radiator. So it actually saves weight, and with the traditional oil
 cooler removed from the duct, you will find that the water cooling
 capacity increases tremendously, more than enough to carry the
 additional heat from the heat exchanger.
 
 I will be using a somewhat modified scheme: I use a radiator and a heat
 exchanger in series. The radiator is 50% smaller and is used to pre-cool
 the oil. Then the oil goes through the heat exchanger. In winter this
 warms up the oil, and in summer it provides additional cooling. During
 winter flying and summer cruising I anticipate that the oil radiator is
 not necessary so I will close it with a flap to minimize drag.
 Some other Europa flyers are in the process of converting to a more
 efficient cooling scheme with a heat exchanger as well, but I will let
 them speak for themselves if they want to. Most of them intent to fly on
 the heat exchanger exclusively and leave the radiator completely out.
 
 Compared to an oil thermostat I feel that the failure potential is less,
 and it also offers more potential to minimize drag. After all it is
 somewhat ineffcient to drag air through a radiator while you don't want
 to cool the oil at all and have the thermostat closed at the same time!
 And I can already tell you from experience that removing the oil
 radiator from the cooling duct does wonders to the cooling capacity of
 the water radiator, and solves all cooling problems instantly.
 
 Frans
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:16 am    Post subject: Purging a Rotax with an oil thermostat. |   |  
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				| Frans
 Can you explain a little more about how the mocal installation works please?
 I am assuming that the heat exchanger goes in downstream of the radiator so
 that the oil is cooled at the coolest point of the system.
 And also what are the specs of the heat exchanger.
 Thanks
 Will
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:13 am    Post subject: Purging a Rotax with an oil thermostat. |   |  
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				| On 03/17/2011 02:13 PM, William Daniell wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | Can you explain a little more about how the mocal installation works please? 
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 See http://www.thinkauto.com/laminova.htm
 These things are mainly sold in Europe under the name Laminova and in
 the US under the name Mocal.
 I'm using a C43-90 (plus a small radiator).
 Raimo Toivio (912S) is using a C45-112 and no radiator.
 Jos Ockhuisen (914) was using a C43-180 as far as I can see from the
 pictures.
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | I am assuming that the heat exchanger goes in downstream of the radiator so that the oil is cooled at the coolest point of the system.
 
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 That's correct. I have mine inserted into the horizontal part of the
 coolant hose just before the U-bend to the water pump.
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | And also what are the specs of the heat exchanger. 
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 See the same website, as well as various others.
 
 Frans
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:36 am    Post subject: Purging a Rotax with an oil thermostat. |   |  
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				| Frans 
And no oil cooler at all then?  That's interesting.
 Of course the heat exchanger doesn't need to be in the airflow.
 Thanks
 Will
 
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