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		lcottrell
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:36 am    Post subject: video | 
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				http://vimeo.com/user7640649/videos
   
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjvxXpC_j0
   
  I have been using You Tube for my video's. The quality  improved when Google bought it, but now they are really particular about using  sound tracks to the point that you are better off just leaving it with no sound  or the monotonous sound of engines. Some may like it but unless I am in the  airplane it is annoying to me. As one friend said, " if you want to hear engine  noise, turn on an electric razor while it is playing". Anyway that has bothered  me. I know that I have actually bought music that I have enjoyed on certain  video's. Possum with Dido for a sound track caused me to buy one of  them.
   
  The same friend piqued my interest in Vimeo. He is using  HD, but he also has a faster upload speed than I do, but the quality was  outstanding. I decided to try it. I went for an afternoon flight yesterday just  to get some raw video to compare. I have resisted HD simply because It would  take forever for me to upload anything, but I did want to see how Vimeo worked.  It seems to be a bit more friendly. The tutorials that are available for the  different movie makers are very handy.
   
  The upload time is about the same, but to me the quality  of Vimeo is a bit better. Not a lot, but lighter it seems to me. I ran both  side by side to compare. If I can just use a sound track, that alone would make  it better.
  Happy and safe Forth!
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		henry.voris
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: video | 
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				Thanks for the video... I prefer the music.
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:01 pm    Post subject: video | 
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				The upload time is about the same, but to me the quality  of Vimeo is a bit better. Not a lot, but lighter it seems to me. I ran both  side by side to compare. If I can just use a sound track, that alone would make  it better.
  Happy and safe Forth!
  Larry
   
   
  I could not tell much difference in the  video.....   the vimeo  played in a larger hd screen mode.   that was nice,  the music was good as well.
   
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:47 pm    Post subject: video | 
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				The vimeo loads faster but is obviously more pixilated at big screen.   Perhaps you can find some generic elevator music.   
 BB
 
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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjvxXpC_j0
  
 I have been using You Tube for my video's. The quality improved when Google bought it, but now they are really particular about using sound tracks to the point that you are better off just leaving it with no sound or the monotonous sound of engines. Some may like it but unless I am in the airplane it is annoying to me. As one friend said, " if you want to hear engine noise, turn on an electric razor while it is playing". Anyway that has bothered me. I know that I have actually bought music that I have enjoyed on certain video's. Possum with Dido for a sound track caused me to buy one of them.
  
 The same friend piqued my interest in Vimeo. He is using HD, but he also has a faster upload speed than I do, but the quality was outstanding. I decided to try it. I went for an afternoon flight yesterday just to get some raw video to compare. I have resisted HD simply because It would take forever for me to upload anything, but I did want to see how Vimeo worked. It seems to be a bit more friendly. The tutorials that are available for the different movie makers are very handy.
  
 The upload time is about the same, but to me the quality of Vimeo is a bit better. Not a lot, but lighter it seems to me. I ran both side by side to compare. If I can just use a sound track, that alone would make it better.
 Happy and safe Forth!
 Larry
  
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:39 pm    Post subject: video | 
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				I can’t detect much visual difference on my screen, but I do miss the  elegant Native American / Canyon People music used on some of your videos which  was a superb match for the landscapes you shared with us....
  Bob
   
   
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    http://vimeo.com/user7640649/videos
   
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjvxXpC_j0
   
  I have been using You Tube for my video's. The quality  improved when Google bought it, but now they are really particular about using  sound tracks to the point that you are better off just leaving it with no sound  or the monotonous sound of engines. Some may like it but unless I am in the  airplane it is annoying to me. As one friend said, " if you want to hear engine  noise, turn on an electric razor while it is playing". Anyway that has bothered  me. I know that I have actually bought music that I have enjoyed on certain  video's. Possum with Dido for a sound track caused me to buy one of  them.
   
  The same friend piqued my interest in Vimeo. He is using  HD, but he also has a faster upload speed than I do, but the quality was  outstanding. I decided to try it. I went for an afternoon flight yesterday just  to get some raw video to compare. I have resisted HD simply because It would  take forever for me to upload anything, but I did want to see how Vimeo worked.  It seems to be a bit more friendly. The tutorials that are available for the  different movie makers are very handy.
   
  The upload time is about the same, but to me the quality  of Vimeo is a bit better. Not a lot, but lighter it seems to me. I ran both side  by side to compare. If I can just use a sound track, that alone would make it  better.
  Happy and safe Forth!
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:11 pm    Post subject: video | 
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				yeah, You tube is a stickler for music. Since I wanted to  use the exact same video for comparison, I used some of the sample music that  came on the computer. 
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		ces308
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: video | 
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				Nice video,Larry ! Thats my kind of flying !
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:02 am    Post subject: video | 
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				Hi,
  great flying pics as usual, not much between the  quality. As far as the `music` is concerned someone should point out to the  `musicians`  there are more than 4 notes available to them.
  Personally I woud rather listen to an electric  razor. Thank heaven for the volume control.
   
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		Dana
 
  
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				 Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:19 am    Post subject: video | 
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				Have they changed their policy again then?  Youtube was a problem with music a while ago, then they apparently worked something out, with "buy this song" links on most videos with music.  It would suck if they changed back to the old policy again, as a well chosen music track can really add a lot to a video.  
  
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 Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> wrote:[quote]  yeah, You tube is a stickler for music. Since I wanted to  use the exact same video for comparison, I used some of the sample music that  came on the computer. 
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				 Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:01 am    Post subject: video | 
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				I think Google ( which owns them) got some threats about  lawsuits over copyright infringement and started to crack down. I tend to listen  when warnings are in red. Before there were some artists that they would not  allow you to use, and they would block the music. The last one that I tried  before, they cancelled the upload. I can't remember the artist.
   
  To our resident Englishman:  Just to get a comparison  that was the same with both uploads I used a sample that was supplied on my  computer. I did not listen to it, nor did I prefer that type of "music", but I  was sure that it would not cause and legal repercussions.  Not sure that it  matters, some don't like the drum and flute music, others think it fits the  country, others complain that there is no engine noise.   Oh well, It was  worth what you paid for it.
   
  I tried to go out today and explore some mountains south  of us. I decided to abort due to the winds. At ground level there is no wind,  but 200 to 1000 feet off the ground there is a 20 mile headwind, and there would  be rotors over the Mts. I don't want to fly too low as there are Pot farms back  in the folds of the hills. The illegal's have had some really big "farms" back  in there. Being slow I make a really good target. Another day.
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		rlaird
 
  
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				 Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:51 am    Post subject: video | 
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				While not ideal, there IS public domain music.  Just go to Google and type in "public domain music" and you'll get lots of things to investigate.
 
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