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Richard Wheelwright

Joined: 15 Sep 2008
Posts: 111
Location: Halifax, West Yorkshire, UK

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:20 am Post subject: Transceivers

Iâ€™m currently looking at Transceivers, My original was to go with the Garmin SL40 but with the new frequency spacing 833 being introduced at some point, (garmin not currently supported) Iâ€™m now looking at alternative. My second choice is now the Funkwerk ATR833 which is interchangeable between the different frequncey spacing. Any info on quality of this Transceiver and general overall reviews would be welcome Thank you in advance.



Richard Wheelwright

G-IRPW

danny shepherd

Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 117
Location: north Wales, United Kingdom

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:42 am Post subject: Transceivers

Hi Richard,

I have the ATR 833 installed in my Europa G-c.e.r.i. I have had no 

trouble with it. I do like the duel listening. Also very easy to set up 

frequencies. When I bought mine the company was called Filtser. A few 

years old, but still working very well.



Cheers Danny Shepherd.

G-ceri



On 06/10/2011 09:20, flying farmer wrote:

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 Iâ€™m currently looking at Transceivers, My original was to go with the Garmin SL40 but with the new frequency spacing 833 being introduced at some point, (garmin not currently supported) Iâ€™m now looking at alternative. My second choice is now the Funkwerk ATR833 which is interchangeable between the different frequncey spacing. Any info on quality of this Transceiver and general overall reviews would be welcome Thank you in advance.



 Richard Wheelwright

 G-IRPW





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Richard Wheelwright

Joined: 15 Sep 2008
Posts: 111
Location: Halifax, West Yorkshire, UK

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:17 am Post subject: Re: Transceivers

Danny, Pat, and off line contacts,

                  Thank you for the info on the ATR 833. It looks like a good choice of Transceiver. 



Richard Wheelwright

G-IRPW

stephen vestuti

Joined: 05 Jul 2011
Posts: 62
Location: Wales, UK

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:21 am Post subject: Re: Transceivers

I too have been researching the comms. for some time. 

The Garmin SL40 doesn't support 8.33 but does talk to the MGL Efis that i'm fitting. (change frequency from the Efis screen)

The XCom 760  doesnt support 8.33 but does talk to the MGL Efis.

The ATR 833  does support 8.33 but doesn't appear to talk to the MGL,



It's all a bit of a mish mash,



If any one knows of a comms. that does both and is preferably 2 1/4" panel 

cut out then please let me know,



Steve.

frans(at)privatepilots.nl
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:53 am Post subject: Transceivers

On 10/10/2011 07:21 PM, stephen vestuti wrote:

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 I too have been researching the comms. for some time.

 The Garmin SL40 doesn't support 8.33 but does talk to the MGL Efis that i'm fitting. (change frequency from the Efis screen)


	


Is MGL's own transceiver not 8.33 compatible? At least it talks to the 

MGL Efis... See http://www.mglavionics.co.za/VHF10.htm



Frans

stephen vestuti

Joined: 05 Jul 2011
Posts: 62
Location: Wales, UK

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: Transceivers

I had already looked at the MGL VHF 10, it too doesn't appear to support 

8.33 channel spacing and is stuck on 25KHz, maybe 8.33 is not that important...

It talks to the Efis though,



Steve.

frans(at)privatepilots.nl
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:12 pm Post subject: Transceivers

On 10/10/2011 10:57 PM, stephen vestuti wrote:

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 I had already looked at the MGL VHF 10, it too doesn't appear to support

 8.33 channel spacing


	


I just checked: According to the manual the "European versions" DO 

support 8.33kHz channel spacing!



Frans

houlihan(at)blueyonder.co
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: Transceivers

But are not EASA approved therefore "cannot" be legally used in Europe.



Tim

On 11 October 2011 00:08, Frans Veldman <frans(at)privatepilots.nl (frans(at)privatepilots.nl)> wrote:

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 On 10/10/2011 10:57 PM, stephen vestuti wrote:

 

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 I had already looked at the MGL VHF 10, it too doesn't appear to support

 8.33 channel spacing

 	
 

 I just checked: According to the manual the "European versions" DO support 8.33kHz channel spacing!



 

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stephen vestuti

Joined: 05 Jul 2011
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Location: Wales, UK

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:32 am Post subject: Re: Transceivers

Thanks for bringing that up Frans.

It appears that MGL have launched a new radio called the V6 which 

does support 8.33 and communicates with the Efis, I'd only seen the V10, 

good old forum,



Steve.

frans(at)privatepilots.nl
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:03 am Post subject: Transceivers

On 10/11/2011 09:14 AM, houlihan wrote:

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		   But are not EASA approved therefore "cannot" be legally used in Europe.


	


I thought for homebuilts this is not necessary? At least not in the 

Netherlands. We only need an EASA approved ASI, altimeter and compass. 

The rest is optional and up to the builder. I could build the 

transceiver myself if I wished to. Homebuild doesn't limit itself to 

flying controls and such.



Frans

houlihan(at)blueyonder.co
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:30 am Post subject: Transceivers

Hi Frans

  

 In the UK the radio has to have a licence from the CAA and they will only accept approved devices.

  

 I doubt if eurocontrol or any air traffic organisation would like just any ones lash up of a transceiver to be used for air traffic control for fear of all sorts of technical issues like break through onto adjacent channels.

   

 I doubt if things are much different in other European country's.

  

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 On 10/11/2011 09:14 AM, houlihan wrote:

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 I thought for homebuilts this is not necessary? At least not in the Netherlands. We only need an EASA approved ASI, altimeter and compass. The rest is optional and up to the builder. I could build the transceiver myself if I wished to. Homebuild doesn't limit itself to flying controls and such.   

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richard.churchill-coleman
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:06 am Post subject: Transceivers

Steve



Paul at Parts for Aircraft told me that the MGL will talk to the ATR 833 -

which is the basis on which I bought one!



Regards

Richard C-C 



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stephen vestuti

Joined: 05 Jul 2011
Posts: 62
Location: Wales, UK

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Transceivers

Richard, well thats great.



 I've taken another look at the manual and can't find any mention of external 

frequency change , do you have the pin numbers that you connect to 

on the D-Connector?

Steve.

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