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 Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:21 am Post subject: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) |
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Folks
Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement.
I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail.
Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast.
Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs….
How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses?
Carlos
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of speckter(at)comcast.net
Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Battery placement
Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be.
Gary Specketer
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt>
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM
Subject: Battery placement
Hello everybody
I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10.
Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail.
Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewhere?
Regards
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:02 am Post subject: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) |
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I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the towbar, maybe another 5.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:
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Folks
Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement.
I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail.
Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast.
Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs….
How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses?
Carlos
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of speckter(at)comcast.net (speckter(at)comcast.net)
Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Battery placement
Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be.
Gary Specketer
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>
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Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM
Subject: Battery placement
Hello everybody
I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10.
Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail.
Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewhere?
Regards
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:23 am Post subject: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) |
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Carlos,
I use 2 25lb lead shot bags.
Alan
N668G
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Subject: RE: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement)
Folks
Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement.
I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail.
Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast.
Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs….
How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses?
Carlos
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of speckter(at)comcast.net
Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Battery placement
Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be.
Gary Specketer
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt>
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM
Subject: Battery placement
Hello everybody
I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10.
Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail.
Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewhere?
Regards
Carlos Trigo0123456789012
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n223rv(at)wolflakeairport
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:15 pm Post subject: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) |
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I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the towbar, maybe another 5.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:
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Folks
Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement.
I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail.
Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast.
Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs….
How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses?
Carlos
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of speckter(at)comcast.net (speckter(at)comcast.net)
Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Battery placement
Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be.
Gary Specketer
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM
Subject: Battery placement
Hello everybody
I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10.
Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail.
Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewhere?
Regards
Carlos Trigo
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robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:37 pm Post subject: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) |
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I initially flew with some ballast in back. At some point ~50 hours in I removed the additional weight to fly fully loaded and never put the ballast back. I fly with maybe 15# of tools and hardware back there and never have an issue with forward weight. 90% of my flying is solo.
Robin
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Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:51 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement)
I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the towbar, maybe another 5.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:
Folks
Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement.
I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail.
Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast.
Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs….
How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses?
Carlos
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of speckter(at)comcast.net (speckter(at)comcast.net)
Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery placement
Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be.
Gary Specketer
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Battery placement
Hello everybody
I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10.
Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail.
Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewhere?
Regards
Carlos Trigo
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flysrv10(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) |
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I use no ballast at all. Do not have any problems.
do not archive
Rob Kermanj
On Jan 7, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Alan Mekler wrote:
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I use 2 25lb lead shot bags.
Alan
N668G
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Trigo
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 1:15 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement)
Folks
Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement.
I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail.
Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast.
Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs.
How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses?
Carlos
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of speckter(at)comcast.net (speckter(at)comcast.net)
Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Battery placement
Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be.
Gary Specketer
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM
Subject: Battery placementHello everybody
I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10.
Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail.
Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewhere?
Regards
Carlos Trigo
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Bob Turner
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) |
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I keep a tool box back there.
Note, you want to be able to remove the extra weight. The -10 is not like a 182, where it is nearly impossible to be out of cg. I'm a lighter pilot (160 lbs) and need 20 lbs in the cargo area when solo. But if I really want to load the plane up to gross, the cg can go too far aft (especially at zero fuel) unless I'm careful.
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) |
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Ditto except for me it's not often I'm solo....but I don't add anything when solo and it's perfectly fine.
Tim
On Jan 7, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com (robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com)> wrote:
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I initially flew with some ballast in back. At some point ~50 hours in I removed the additional weight to fly fully loaded and never put the ballast back. I fly with maybe 15# of tools and hardware back there and never have an issue with forward weight. 90% of my flying is solo.
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:51 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement)
I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the towbar, maybe another 5.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:
Folks
Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement.
I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail.
Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast.
Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs….
How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses?
Carlos
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of speckter(at)comcast.net (speckter(at)comcast.net)
Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Battery placement
Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be.
Gary Specketer
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM
Subject: Battery placement
Hello everybody
I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10.
Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail.
Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewhere?
Regards
Carlos Trigo
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That or a collapsible 5 gal water jug should do the trick. Nothing to lose when you want to shed the weight.
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Michael Kraus <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net (n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net)> wrote:
[quote]I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set.
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Folks
Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement.
I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail.
Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast.
Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs.
How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses?
Carlos
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of speckter(at)comcast.net (speckter(at)comcast.net)
Sent: quinta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2012 20:03
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Battery placement
Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be.
Gary Specketer
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM
Subject: Battery placement
Hello everybody
I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10.
Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail.
Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewhere?
Regards
Carlos Trigo
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As Robin and Tim said
Ditto for me
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)> wrote:
[quote]Ditto except for me it's not often I'm solo....but I don't add anything when solo and it's perfectly fine.
Tim
On Jan 7, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Robin Marks <[url=mailto:robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com]robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com (robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com)[/url]> wrote:
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I initially flew with some ballast in back. At some point ~50 hours in I removed the additional weight to fly fully loaded and never put the ballast back. I fly with maybe 15# of tools and hardware back there and never have an issue with forward weight. 90% of my flying is solo.
Robin
From: [url=mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com]owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)[/url] [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
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To: [url=mailto:rv10-list(at)matronics.com]rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)[/url]
Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement)
I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Dave Saylor <[url=mailto:dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com]dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)[/url]> wrote:
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I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the towbar, maybe another 5.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo <[url=mailto:trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt]trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)[/url]> wrote:
Folks
Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement.
I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail.
Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast.
Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs….
How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses?
Carlos
From: [url=mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com]owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)[/url] [mailto:[url=mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com]owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)[/url]] On Behalf Of [url=mailto:speckter(at)comcast.net]speckter(at)comcast.net (speckter(at)comcast.net)[/url]
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To: [url=mailto:rv10-list(at)matronics.com]rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)[/url]
Subject: Re: Battery placement
Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be.
Gary Specketer
From: "Carlos Trigo" <[url=mailto:trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt]trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)[/url]>
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Subject: Battery placement
Hello everybody
I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10.
Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail.
Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewhere?
Regards
Carlos Trigo
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement) |
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I don't have any ballast in my baggage compartment either when flying solo, and no problems either.
grumpy
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On Jan 7, 2012, at 5:13 PM, g.combs wrote:
[quote]As Robin and Tim said
Ditto for me
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Ditto except for me it's not often I'm solo....but I don't add anything when solo and it's perfectly fine.
Tim
On Jan 7, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Robin Marks < (robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com)robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com (robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com)> wrote:
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I initially flew with some ballast in back. At some point ~50 hours in I removed the additional weight to fly fully loaded and never put the ballast back. I fly with maybe 15# of tools and hardware back there and never have an issue with forward weight. 90% of my flying is solo.
Robin
From: (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:51 AM
To: (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement)
I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Dave Saylor < (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the towbar, maybe another 5.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo < (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:
Folks
Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement.
I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail.
Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast.
Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs….
How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses?
Carlos
From: (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto: (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of (speckter(at)comcast.net)speckter(at)comcast.net (speckter(at)comcast.net)
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To: (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Battery placement
Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be.
Gary Specketer
From: "Carlos Trigo" < (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>
To: (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM
Subject: Battery placement
Hello everybody
I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10.
Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail.
Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewhere?
Regards
Carlos Trigo
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No ballast here either. Stick is fully back in the flare when solo and that seems nice.
A lot of stuff can end up behind the rear bulkhead... 2 batts, strobe owner supply, AP servo, dual AHRS, dual magnetometers, and ELT in my case (and I suspect in most others). Do it per plans, add goodies as desired, liberally use optional Vans mounting plates for behind he bulkhead area, then do W&B. Worked great with no ballast required here.
Bill
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On Jan 7, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com (gengrumpy(at)aol.com)> wrote:
[quote]I don't have any ballast in my baggage compartment either when flying solo, and no problems either.
grumpy
do not archive
On Jan 7, 2012, at 5:13 PM, g.combs wrote:
| Quote: | As Robin and Tim said
Ditto for me
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Ditto except for me it's not often I'm solo....but I don't add anything when solo and it's perfectly fine.
Tim
On Jan 7, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Robin Marks < (robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com)robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com (robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com)> wrote:
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I initially flew with some ballast in back. At some point ~50 hours in I removed the additional weight to fly fully loaded and never put the ballast back. I fly with maybe 15# of tools and hardware back there and never have an issue with forward weight. 90% of my flying is solo.
Robin
From: (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:51 AM
To: (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement)
I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Dave Saylor < (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com (dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the towbar, maybe another 5.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo < (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)> wrote:
Folks
Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement.
I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail.
Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast.
Further having the battery in the tail, some -10 flyers (with IO540) seem to be using ballast in the tail, when flying solo. I heard of something like 50 Lbs….
How is this ballast materialised? What is the solution everybody uses?
Carlos
From: (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto: (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of (speckter(at)comcast.net)speckter(at)comcast.net (speckter(at)comcast.net)
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To: (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Battery placement
Most folks are putting it in the tail per the plans. It seems to be the best place to make the CG come out where it needs to be.
Gary Specketer
From: "Carlos Trigo" < (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt (trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt)>
To: (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 2:18:50 PM
Subject: Battery placement
Hello everybody
I am helping a buddy who is beginning the construction of a -10.
Reading the Manual, I became aware that the plans determine the battery to be placed in the tail.
Has everybody gone this way, or did any of you placed the battery elsewhere?
Regards
Carlos Trigo
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Ok, so I'm going to chime in here. On my -10 there is no ballast that is required, but with 2 cases of water while flying solo allows me a much better flare on landing. Without it, the plane lands much flatter. Is it required? No, does it feel and land better? Yes. YMMV
-Mike Kraus
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On Jan 7, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Bill Watson <mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> wrote:
[quote] No ballast here either. Stick is fully back in the flare when solo and that seems nice.
A lot of stuff can end up behind the rear bulkhead... 2 batts, strobe owner supply, AP servo, dual AHRS, dual magnetometers, and ELT in my case (and I suspect in most others). Do it per plans, add goodies as desired, liberally use optional Vans mounting plates for behind he bulkhead area, then do W&B. Worked great with no ballast required here.
Bill
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 7, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> wrote:
> I don't have any ballast in my baggage compartment either when flying solo, and no problems either.
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> grumpy
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> do not archive
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> On Jan 7, 2012, at 5:13 PM, g.combs wrote:
>
>> As Robin and Tim said
>>
>> Ditto for me
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>> Geoff
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>> Sent from my iPhone Geoff
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>> On Jan 7, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ditto except for me it's not often I'm solo....but I don't add anything when solo and it's perfectly fine.
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I initially flew with some ballast in back. At some point ~50 hours in I removed the additional weight to fly fully loaded and never put the ballast back. I fly with maybe 15# of tools and hardware back there and never have an issue with forward weight. 90% of my flying is solo.
>>>>
>>>> Robin
>>>>
>>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 11:51 AM
>>>> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List:Tail Ballast (was Battery placement)
>>>>
>>>> I keep 2 cases of water. Then if I get thirsty , I'm all set.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 7, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I keep a 24-pound survival kit back there, plus a light cover and the towbar, maybe another 5.
>>>>
>>>> Dave Saylor
>>>> AirCrafters
>>>> 140 Aviation Way
>>>> Watsonville, CA 95076
>>>> 831-722-9141 Shop
>>>> 831-750-0284 Cell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Trigo <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt> wrote:
>>>> Folks
>>>>
>>>> Thanks everybody for all the answers about the Battery placement.
>>>> I will surely follow the plans, and keep the battery (or batteries) in the tail.
>>>>
>>>> Now, another thread was suggested within the answers, which is Ballast
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I need some ballast when flying solo. The big issue is during Phase One. After that, tools and baggage suffice. I used a ShurTrax 100 lb "traction aide" from Summit racing. The tiedown eyelets on the corners fit great with my Van's tie down fittings. And, you can dump the water when you're done.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SPK-CLW0036/
It definitely flies better with weight in the back, more stick authority and less trim. My "Most Aft CG" calculation exceeds max gross before the CG hits 116.24 inches. The only way I could hit 116.24" is to have a 5 year old in the right seat, fuel down to 10 gallons, and the back loaded to max gross. That would require two 250 pounders and max baggage. Sounds like a "fun" trip...(g).
John
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