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rowlandcarson(at)gmail.co
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject: TS05 retention query

I seem to recall that someone on this forum mentioned adding small lightweight discs near the ends of the TS05 cross-piece, inside the fuselage. This had the dual effect of keeping the TS05 from moving sideways while rigging and de-rigging (reinforcing that provided by the ply pieces called out in the manual) and also improving the cosmetic appearance of the slot in which TS05 operates.



I've searched the back postings using various keywords that I thought likely but can't turn up what I'm looking for.



Would the original poster (or someone who remembers the posting) please help me find it? Date of the post, who made it, or a copy of the original would all be very acceptable.



in friendship



Rowland



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steven.pitt2(at)ntlworld.
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:20 pm Post subject: TS05 retention query

Rowland - I tried to take some pictures this morning but could not get the 

right resolution to help with your enquiry.

However, I checked my aircraft and can see that I cut a piece of plywood 

(possibly about a foot long) and fibregalssed it onto the inside of the tail 

on either side of the vertical surfaces, forward of and level with the top 

of the trimtube slots. I then cut a 'u' shape slot between them to allow the 

trim tube to move up and down but restricted the side to side movement.

This version means that the side slots remain open but also means that the 

TS05 is not altered which might lead to jamming if the discs were to move.

I hope this helps.

Steve

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craigb(at)onthenet.com.au
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:26 am Post subject: TS05 retention query

I believe the factory jumped in on this one a few years ago, and warned

against such

A mod, I believe they were concerned with icing etc jamming up the trim

system, and thus 

Compromising the flight performance.



I may be wrong however



Regards

craig



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g-iani(at)ntlworld.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:31 am Post subject: TS05 retention query

Roland



I remember the posting but have no record of it



I did the attached drawing for someone who, in effect, asked the same

question.  I will get it into the web site soon



Ian



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roddyeuropa(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:48 am Post subject: TS05 retention query

to add, this is not an area of rigging which (in my experience) I have ever had any problems,including rigging single handed. Technique I use is to fully put on one tailplane, (starbord), attach the ts05 to lug on that side, then put on the port  tailplane to within about 1/4 inch of fully in, put the ts05  tube half into the lug on the port side, so the tube is now half in the lugs on both sides, and then push the port tailplane fully home. 

 Roddy Kesterton G-KRK

 

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frans(at)privatepilots.nl
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:17 am Post subject: TS05 retention query

On 03/25/2012 10:47 AM, roddyeuropa(at)aol.com wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   to add, this is not an area of rigging which (in my experience) I have

 ever had any problems,including rigging single handed. Technique I use

 is to fully put on one tailplane, (starbord), attach the ts05 to lug on

 that side, then put on the port  tailplane to within about 1/4 inch of

 fully in, put the ts05  tube half into the lug on the port side, so the

 tube is now half in the lugs on both sides, and then push the port

 tailplane fully home. 


	


I rig and derig the airplane for every flight and I follow the very same

procedure as described by Roddy. It is no problem at all. I always rig

the tailplanes without any help (my wife has another task during that

stage of rigging). I can't imagine how changes to the TS05 guidance

could make the procedure easier: you still have to guide the TS05 to the

lug. And the sideways play of the TS05 actually helps as you can now

separate inserting the TS05 from aligning the tailplane on the torque

tube. If the TS05 could not move sideways you have to aligh everything

at the same moment which would make it much more complicated.



Furthermore my feeling is that this is a "no-mess" area. Anything put

there might break loose and jam the tailplane and trim, which I'm sure

is no fun flying. What isn't there can't break loose. Just keep it

simple here.



Frans

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fklein(at)orcasonline.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject: TS05 retention query

On Mar 24, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Rowland Carson wrote:



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		   I seem to recall that someone on this forum mentioned adding small  

 lightweight discs near the ends of the TS05 cross-piece, inside the  

 fuselage.


	


Rowland...I may have been the culprit...but in due course I abandoned  

the notion in order NOT to add a potential glitch to pitch control.



I ended up building a little foam box with a screened slot which  

centers TS05 and (hopefully) keeps the birds and insects from  

venturing into the tailcone...here are a couple of pixs:



Best,



Fred

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