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 Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:46 pm Post subject: Jaguar cowling |
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Is there any interest in a pre-fitted Jaguar cowling? I could sell the cowlings pre-fitted using my plane as the reference. I'd have to adjust the price to compensate for the time invested in pre fitting the cowling. I estimate the cost of a 'ready to install' cowling to be $11,000. It would lstill need to be sanded and painted.
Gary
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Jaguar cowling |
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Ok, I know I don't carry much weight anymore since I don't have a Tiger any more but here is my thoughts....
Having read about the "individual" nature of each Tiger coming out of the various factories as well as having read about the different "required fitting procedures" of each existing Jaguar cowl, I would think a "pre-fitted" cowl wouldn't be pre-fitted except to the plane it was fitted on. Having it pre-cut to one plane could just make it useless/ugly on a different plane.
Just my .02.
GK
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: Jaguar cowling |
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Well, in theory, the stock cowling can be interchanged between planes. Other than fitting the engine thrust angle to match theyd all be exactly the same.
Gary
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On May 25, 2012, at 9:55 PM, "gketell" <greg(at)ketell.com> wrote:
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Ok, I know I don't carry much weight anymore since I don't have a Tiger any more but here is my thoughts....
Having read about the "individual" nature of each Tiger coming out of the various factories as well as having read about the different "required fitting procedures" of each existing Jaguar cowl, I would think a "pre-fitted" cowl wouldn't be pre-fitted except to the plane it was fitted on. Having it pre-cut to one plane could just make it useless/ugly on a different plane.
Just my .02.
GK
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Discover
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 9:34 pm Post subject: Jaguar cowling |
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While reworking my Jaguar cowl I used a firewall from a 70's model Tiger/Cheetah. I then took the cowl from my garage to my hanger and put it on my 2000's Tiger with a perfect fit and all the factory screw holes matched exactly. The only difference particular to my Tiger was length needed increased. Probably mostly because of the MT spinner being shorter than the factory spinner
The biggest variable might be the seemingly unrepeatability of the factory cowls alignment. If they were all still as they left the factory in the 70's then pre fitting should work fine
On May 26, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
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Well, in theory, the stock cowling can be interchanged between planes. Other than fitting the engine thrust angle to match theyd all be exactly the same.
Gary
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On May 25, 2012, at 9:55 PM, "gketell" <greg(at)ketell.com> wrote:
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:46 am Post subject: Jaguar cowling |
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OK, I'm attempting to buy/trade for a fuselage so that I can pre-fit the cowlings. Here's why.
I sold a cowling to a Tiger owner who is having someone else install the cowling. I got an email from the installer saying the cowling is 1/2 inch too wide and that he's going to change the joggle down the centerline to fix the problem.
First: there is no way the cowling can be wider. All of the cowlings come out of the same tooling.
Second: he's measuring it on the floor.
Third: on the floor, this doesn't take into consideration the nose strut fairing has nothing to hold a dimension at the open end.
Fourth: he can't just arbitrarily change the location of the joggle without affecting the entire installation.
Fifth: if he'd follow the instructions . . . duh . . . there is no step that says to measure the cowling on the floor.
This guy is destroying a cowling and the guy who bought it will be the one who is to suffer.
I thought (my mistake, I know) that it is time consuming to install, but that the installation instructions covered everything. I forgot to include the intelligence of the installer.
I'm not saying what I'm really thinking. I'm really pissed off.
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Discover
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject: Jaguar cowling |
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Hmmm
What I can say is that it took a year for me to lengthen the cowl. I'm flying it now but it isn't finished. If the owner is on this list he should take head. It would be far less expensive to pay to fly Gary and his better half helper out, buy his room and board and let him restart the install.
No kidding
On May 26, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
[quote]OK, I'm attempting to buy/trade for a fuselage so that I can pre-fit the cowlings. Here's why.
I sold a cowling to a Tiger owner who is having someone else install the cowling. I got an email from the installer saying the cowling is 1/2 inch too wide and that he's going to change the joggle down the centerline to fix the problem.
First: there is no way the cowling can be wider. All of the cowlings come out of the same tooling.
Second: he's measuring it on the floor.
Third: on the floor, this doesn't take into consideration the nose strut fairing has nothing to hold a dimension at the open end.
Fourth: he can't just arbitrarily change the location of the joggle without affecting the entire installation.
Fifth: if he'd follow the instructions . . . duh . . . there is no step that says to measure the cowling on the floor.
This guy is destroying a cowling and the guy who bought it will be the one who is to suffer.
I thought (my mistake, I know) that it is time consuming to install, but that the installation instructions covered everything. I forgot to include the intelligence of the installer.
I'm not saying what I'm really thinking. I'm really pissed off.
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