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dmaib@me.com
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 Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:48 am Post subject: Re: Main gear shudder revisited |
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I did not have any shudder/shimmy during phase 1 and on into phase 2. I'm not sure exactly when it started, but probably not until I had 100 or more hours on the airplane. I can't find any wear anywhere in the gear that might make it shimmy. I've re-torqued the main gear bolts and that has not changed anything. I have thought about re-torquing those bolts with the airplane on jacks. Would that make any difference?
It sounds like the wooden stiffener that has been fairly successful on the other RV's might be worth exploring. Is anybody going down that path?
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 9:21 am Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited |
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I didnt see the spacer on there website but it sounds like a good idea it seems I have to snug the nuts at each annual.Any advice about bahamas we are leaving next week sac fxe georgetown.-thanks Jim
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philperry9
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited |
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Here you go.
http://www.planearound.com/TWO-WHEEL-FAIRING-BRACKET-SPACERS-FOR-RV-10-WFSPCR.htm
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:18 PM, pilotdds <pilotdds(at)aol.com (pilotdds(at)aol.com)> wrote:
[quote] I didnt see the spacer on there website but it sounds like a good idea it seems I have to snug the nuts at each annual.Any advice about bahamas we are leaving next week sac fxe georgetown.-thanks Jim
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:00 am Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited |
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thanks- ordered
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:51 am Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited |
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Here is the DIY version, courtesy of Tim (as seemed to be the norm back in my days) http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20101107/index.html
From: Phillip Perry (philperry9(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:35 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: Main gear shudder revisited
Here you go.
http://www.planearound.com/TWO-WHEEL-FAIRING-BRACKET-SPACERS-FOR-RV-10-WFSPCR.htm
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[quote]I didnt see the spacer on there website but it sounds like a good idea it seems I have to snug the nuts at each annual.Any advice about bahamas we are leaving next week sac fxe georgetown.-thanks Jim
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 5:31 pm Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited |
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I installed Sean's spacers 2 years ago and that eliminated main wheel shudder for me and the Matco axle on the nose eliminated that one.
For 2 ACIs in a row now, I have not had to re-torque the nose wheel either!
grumpy
N184JM
On May 23, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
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Sean at Planearound.com makes a great replacement spacer
that will get rid of the slop permanently. Now that you've
tightened it up again, it will be OK for a while but eventually
will wear further and further until finally the hole is worn
thru and you need to replace the whole large bracket, so it's
probably worth checking into another option rather than
just retorquing.
Tim
On 5/23/2012 7:56 AM, Thane States wrote:
> On my last conditional, I found, of course some wear in on the main
> bearings. But I also found that both main wheel pant brackets had
> excessive slop in the mounting hardware. The nuts had not loosened at
> all, but the spacer material to offset the brackets had worn in. Once I
> tightened this all up and repacked my bearings, I only have occasional
> shudder during various taxi scenarios. Don't know which side is the
> culprit, or if it is both. I also found the nylock nuts on the wheels
> themselves to be loose. I assume with the heat from braking being
> transferred to the wheels the nylon became hard and began to fail. I
> upgraded the wheel half nuts to all metal to hopefully stop them from
> backing off.
> Thane states
> 220TT
> RV-10
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larkrv10(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited |
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Guys, all this talk about the main gear and the Matco front wheel has me thinking. Where do I buy the front wheel and axle? Are Matco and ACS the only retailers? Obviously PlaneAround for the wheel pant spacers. Thx.
Rick
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Southampton, Ont
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com (gengrumpy(at)aol.com)> wrote:
[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com (gengrumpy(at)aol.com)>
I installed Sean's spacers 2 years ago and that eliminated main wheel shudder for me and the Matco axle on the nose eliminated that one.
For 2 ACIs in a row now, I have not had to re-torque the nose wheel either!
grumpy
N184JM
On May 23, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>
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> Sean at Planearound.com makes a great replacement spacer
> that will get rid of the slop permanently. Now that you've
> tightened it up again, it will be OK for a while but eventually
> will wear further and further until finally the hole is worn
> thru and you need to replace the whole large bracket, so it's
> probably worth checking into another option rather than
> just retorquing.
> Tim
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> On 5/23/2012 7:56 AM, Thane States wrote:
>> On my last conditional, I found, of course some wear in on the main
>> bearings. But I also found that both main wheel pant brackets had
>> excessive slop in the mounting hardware. The nuts had not loosened at
>> all, but the spacer material to offset the brackets had worn in. Once I
>> tightened this all up and repacked my bearings, I only have occasional
>> shudder during various taxi scenarios. Don't know which side is the
>> culprit, or if it is both. I also found the nylock nuts on the wheels
>> themselves to be loose. I assume with the heat from braking being
>> transferred to the wheels the nylon became hard and began to fail. I
>> upgraded the wheel half nuts to all metal to hopefully stop them from
>> backing off.
>> Thane states
>> 220TT
>> RV-10
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Jim Berry
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Main gear shudder revisited |
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Rick,
You can get the Matco wheel and axle from www.matcomfg.com . Great people to do business with, and no reason to look elsewhere.
Jim Berry
N15JB
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bill.peyton
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Main gear shudder revisited |
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Rick,
The matco guys will give you a credit for your new uninstalled wheel
Bill
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Kellym
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited |
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I presume you are talking Matco, and yes, if the wheel is new, never
split, never had a tire on it you can get direct exchange.
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larkrv10(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited |
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Guys, so am I farther ahead to just delete the Vans nose wheel when ordering the finshing kit or does it not matter one way or another?
Thx,
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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I presume you are talking Matco, and yes, if the wheel is new, never split, never had a tire on it you can get direct exchange.
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Jim Berry
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Main gear shudder revisited |
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You can save one shipping charge if you delete Van's wheel and order directly from Matco.
Jim Berry
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Kelly McMullen
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:10 pm Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited |
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Kind of a wash. You pay shipping to send one back and get new correct wheel(and highly recommend axle) or you get credit for wheel at less than 1:1 if you delete from order. I think the latter is less hassle.
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Rick Lark <larkrv10(at)gmail.com (larkrv10(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] Guys, so am I farther ahead to just delete the Vans nose wheel when ordering the finshing kit or does it not matter one way or another?
Thx,
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)> wrote:
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I presume you are talking Matco, and yes, if the wheel is new, never split, never had a tire on it you can get direct exchange.
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jrlark
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| Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:53 am Post subject: Main gear shudder revisited |
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Hmmm, yeah I think I will just delete the wheel from the Vans order. It will certainly be less hassel when I consider shipping across the Can/US border.
Thx guys
Rick
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