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tc1917(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:52 am Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel

I installed a matco tailwheel on my slingshot.  Had a lot of trouble ground looping cause the wheel would 'break' too easily. In the archives it describes how to fix this and make it custom to your desires.  It just requires you to grind the channel longer where the ball bearing rides.  Works great. The slingshot with big wheels has a high stance with short coupling. Makes for a wild ride if the wheel breaks and you start sliding.  Just my opinion.  Ted Cowan slingshot 912ul zoomzoom

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     1. 02:01 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 08/17/12  (George Bearden)

     2. 02:03 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 08/17/12  (George Bearden)

     3. 10:39 AM - Re: A swivel tailwheel question  (Dennis Thate)

     4. 04:59 PM - Re: Re: A swivel tailwheel question  (Gary Aman)

     5. 05:16 PM - Re: Re: A swivel tailwheel question  (David Peters)

     6. 06:38 PM - Re: Tail Post supports   (Ellery Batchelder Jr)

     7. 07:18 PM - Re: Re: New Firestar II owner - question about elevator oscillations  (Richard Girard)

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 Time: 02:01:46 AM PST US

 From: "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net>

 Subject: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 08/17/12

> The 50 ohm dummy load is not going to do you any good with your antenna.

 Of course not. I used it to take the antenna away as a variable. A

 dummy-load can be useful to your antenna *SYSTEM* though.

> It is only designed to help you with your transmitter.

 My screwdriver is designed to turn screws but I use it for all kinds of

 things. What I suggested isn't good for this situation, as I noted, since

 the asker isn't a radio person (neither am I) but since other folks read

 these posts I mentioned how it COULD be used.

 I thought the rest of your post was wonderful, however.

 GeoB

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 From: "George Bearden" <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net>

 Subject: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 08/17/12

> an antenna analyzer is an other good tool.....

 Yes! IMHO the analyzer is a much better tool for this.

 GeoB

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 Subject: Re: A swivel tailwheel question

 From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>

 Thanks for the helpful suggestions. I went with a Matco.  The Kolb handles so much

 better....more like a real taildragger.

 on my narrow strip.

 " I would recommend installing the tail post brackets on all Kolbs I just 

 Ellery Batchelder Jr. "

 Can you show a picture of this tail post brackets ?

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 Subject: Re: Re: A swivel tailwheel question

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John Hauck

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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:07 am Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel

I installed a matco tailwheel on my slingshot.  Had a lot of

trouble ground looping cause the wheel would 'break' too

easily.  Ted C

Ted C/Kolbers:



Do you have differential braking?



I'd have a difficult time flying my mkIII without

differential brakes.



john h

Sargents, Colorado

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Dennis Thate

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:55 am Post subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel

John,



  The only time I use my brakes in flight is just after lift-off. My wheels are spinning so fast that they set up a strong vibration which shakes the whole plane.

   My tires are worn down considerable, hopefully this annoyance will cease when I get new better balanced tires on my Kolb.

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John Hauck

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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:11 am Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel

<retroman(at)frontier.com>



 

  The only time I use my brakes in flight is just after

lift-off. My wheel are spinning so fast that they set up a

strong vibration which shakes the whole plane.

 



Kolbers:



Golf cart, lawn mower, and other off road/slow speed tires

are not trued and balanced prior to leaving the factory.



Aircraft quality tires are trued and balanced prior to

delivery.  Even then, aircraft tires and wheels will require

balancing after mounting.  



john h

mkIII

Sargents, Colorado

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jbhart(at)onlyinternet.ne
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:05 am Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel

At 09:04 AM 8/19/12 -0600, you wrote:

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I'd have a difficult time flying my mkIII without

differential brakes.




	


John,



Why do you need differential brakes for flying?



Jack B. Hart FF004

Winchester, IN

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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:12 am Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel

We call dem air brakes

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Thom Riddle

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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:01 am Post subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel

With a full swivel tailwheel and differential brakes, ground handling in tight places is very easy and I'm glad I have them on my Slingshot. Balancing wheels/tires is pretty simple with the go-kart wheel balancer.

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John Hauck

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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:50 am Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel

Why do you need differential brakes for flying?



Jack B. Hart FF004

 

Jack H/Kolbers:



I start logging flight time when I start the engine.  Taxi,

takeoff, and landing, are part of the "big picture" of

flying.  Sorry if you did not understand.



What did you think I meant?



Gary A:  There are times when I wished I had had "dem air

brakes".  



john h

mkIII

Sargents, Colorado

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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:34 pm Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel

At 09:47 AM 8/20/12 -0600, you wrote:

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Why do you need differential brakes for flying?



Jack B. Hart FF004

 

Jack H/Kolbers:



I start logging flight time when I start the engine.  Taxi,

takeoff, and landing, are part of the "big picture" of

flying.  Sorry if you did not understand.




	


John,



I did understand. Again, why do you need differential brakes?



I hangar and fly from airports, and many of my testing actual flight times 

are less than the accumulated time required to taxi in and out.  Also, when 

leaving from a flyin, the queue may be as much as a half hour long.  I only 

record actual flight time with a stick mounted timer to prevent inflating 

actual flight time.  Also, this gives me more reliable data from which I can 

calculate a more accurate fuel consumption rate.



Jack B. Hart FF004

Winchester, IN

lcottrell

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Location: Jordan Valley, Or

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel

I am not John, but let me tell you why I need differential brakes. Mine are not as fancy as John's, ( mine are the mechanical drums, with a homemade dual bicycle brake levers) but without them I am out in the weeds every time I want to turn around. I also use them when I am turning corners such as when I make a 90 degree turn to park inside the hanger. I suppose that I could do without them if I was operating on a nice pave runway that is wide enough for spam cans, but I don't. In other words they make my life a lot easier, and mean that I don't have to get out to turn the plane around. 

Perhaps there are those who are skilled enough to manage without them, but alas, I am just a "brush" pilot. Plus I really don't give a shit how much they weigh.

Larry

 On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Jack B. Hart <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net (jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net)> wrote:

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 At 09:47 AM 8/20/12 -0600, you wrote:

 >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)>

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 >Why do you need differential brakes for flying?

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 >Jack B. Hart FF004

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 >Jack H/Kolbers:

 >

 >I start logging flight time when I start the engine.  Taxi,

 >takeoff, and landing, are part of the "big picture" of

 >flying.  Sorry if you did not understand.

 >

 John,

 I did understand. Again, why do you need differential brakes?

 I hangar and fly from airports, and many of my testing actual flight times

 are less than the accumulated time required to taxi in and out.  Also, when

 leaving from a flyin, the queue may be as much as a half hour long.  I only

 record actual flight time with a stick mounted timer to prevent inflating

 actual flight time.  Also, this gives me more reliable data from which I can

 calculate a more accurate fuel consumption rate.

 Jack B. Hart FF004

 Winchester, IN

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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel

I did understand. Again, why do you need differential

brakes?



I hangar and fly from airports, and many of my testing

actual flight times are less than the accumulated time

required to taxi in and out.  Also, when leaving from a

flyin, the queue may be as much as a half hour long.  I only

record actual flight time with a stick mounted timer to

prevent inflating actual flight time.  Also, this gives me

more reliable data from which I can calculate a more

accurate fuel consumption rate.



Jack B. Hart FF004

 



Jack H/Kolbers:



I need the differential brakes to help me control the

aircraft on the ground.



Jack, you can legally log flight time from the time you turn

the prop until the time the prop stops after you land.

Start up and shut down are part of that flight.



If you want to log "actual in flight time", that is fine

with me.  



In the event of an engine failure, do you punch the clock

off?  



john h

mkIII

Sargents, Colorado

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Thom Riddle

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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:56 am Post subject: Time in service vs flight time or engine running time.

For what is worth,  "time in service" records (for maintenance) should reflect airborne time. This is why some time recording meters/instruments begin recording based on airspeed and/or micro switches that activate when wheels are off the ground. Of course for experimental and UL aircraft this only matters if you care about the difference.

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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:04 pm Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel

Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:57:40 -0600

From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>

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Perhaps there are those who are skilled enough to manage without them, but alas, I am just a "brush" pilot. Plus I really don't give a shit how much they weigh.

 	  Quote: 	

Larry, 

I am not as fortunate as those of you who have your own grass strip with a 

hangar.  Thus I am forced to use an airport.  The first one was 39 miles 

away.  Luckily the present one is only two miles away.  When we bought the 

present property it included a long narrow strip that could be used as an 

800 foot runway, but it is going to take some earth moving to get it flat 

and smooth enough to use with the FireFly.

I mounted drum brakes activated by a single handle because I found that 

operating at an airport with out brakes was pure hell.  The only way I could 

stop and avoid running into the plane ahead of me was to taxi off the 

asphalt into the grass or shut the engine down or jump out and hold it.  

When the queue moved forward, I would have to taxi in the grass, or climb in 

with out it running me down, strap in and move forward. 

If you want to fly, you have to do what you have to do.

Jack B. Hart FF004

Winchester, IN

jbhart(at)onlyinternet.ne
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:07 pm Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel

At 08:09 PM 8/21/12 -0600, you wrote:

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		  In the event of an engine failure, do you punch the clock

off?  




	


John,



Yes, but not until the wheels touch the ground.



Jack B. Hart FF004

Winchester, IN

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: tail wheel

 	  Quote: 	
		  In the event of an engine failure, do you punch the clock

off?
	


 	  Quote: 	
		  


	


John,



Yes, but not until the wheels touch the ground.



Jack B. Hart FF004

Winchester, IN

 



Gee, what does that do to your fuel consumption

calculations?  



john h

mkIII

Sargents, Colorado

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