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 Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:22 pm Post subject: Travel canopy cover recommendations |
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I don't use one but I do use one of those aluminized sun guards that are
used in autos. I'd recommend getting and using one before investing in
a regular canopy cover or perhaps in lieu of using the one you have.
When we landed in Phoenix early this summer, it felt like my interior
started melting and things just started coming apart. I looked around
the ramp and saw that practically every airplane, especially the jets,
had one of those sun guards in the windshield. A quick trip to Autozone
and I found a half dozen varieties from less than $5 to $25 or so. I
picked a cheap one and it worked like a charm. Much better than expected.
Yes, it only covers the windshield but that takes care of 80% of sun.
The loose, sloppy fit means that it has little actual contact with the
windshield so scratching is not a problem. It's super light, fan folds
for storage, and it has a slot in the middle so it can hang on the rear
view mirror. The same slot fits around our center post just fine.
I works so well that even if I neglect to deploy it at tie down, I'll
often put it up during pre-flight to cool things off and do my
pre-flight stuff. On a sunny ramp, it's the last thing I stow before
shutting the doors and starting the engine.
I used regular canopy covers on my sailplanes years ago but they have a
few problems. Scratching and dirt being one. That's real pain if you
get high winds overnight and/or the hold downs are not properly in place
and the cover flaps around for a few hours or days. Then you reto
always disassemble and box it).
Anyway, you should try one of these things. I don't have any water
leaks so the only thing I'm looking for is sun protection. These things
are cheap, very easy to use, super light and easy to stow. Blocking
only most of the sun coming thru the windshield I've found is more than
sufficient for casual parking. The canopy cover would be the thing to
use if it's tied out all the time.
Triple Tree fly-in! Didn't know they had one but wish I had. Great
place and people there. I was there a few years ago for an RC event.
Anyplace self-described as the "Augusta of Aviation" is worth a visit.
Assuming it's there next year, I'll have to give it a try. Have fun Wayne!
Bill "suggests getting cowl plugs too - it's amazing how much material a
starling can fit under a RV10 cowling... and how hard it is to get it
all out" Watson
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I have Abby's, carried it on a few long trips and have not used it yet. Hangared on one trip. When should I use it? I have been worried about trapping dirt beneath with wind and scratching plexi. I do have a few water leaks around door hinge screws that I need to seal up. Do most of you install it for security/sun fading/water leaks/cabin cooler??
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:56 am Post subject: Travel canopy cover recommendations |
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See that's where my opinion differs. If you go with the aluminized stuff, you need to do your very best to minimize contact with the windows...and perhaps find the least real metallic ones you can. I went to Walmart and bought some good ones and cut to fit back for OSH a few years ago. Now, those are the ONLY real scratches I have on my windows...on the inside. I scratched my windows far far more by using sun shields than the canopy ever did....and scratches are harder to fix on the inside.
So personally, I wouldn't go with this advice. But, if you're doing it real real carefully and using great materials and re-binding any cut edges to protect the window, then I'm sure it would be a good idea. I know mine made a significant decrease in heat cutting. The canopy cover, however, does an even better job for me. I don't know where Abby gets that white on black material but it's awesome stuff.
Tim
On Aug 31, 2012, at 1:21 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> wrote:
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I don't use one but I do use one of those aluminized sun guards that are used in autos. I'd recommend getting and using one before investing in a regular canopy cover or perhaps in lieu of using the one you have.
When we landed in Phoenix early this summer, it felt like my interior started melting and things just started coming apart. I looked around the ramp and saw that practically every airplane, especially the jets, had one of those sun guards in the windshield. A quick trip to Autozone and I found a half dozen varieties from less than $5 to $25 or so. I picked a cheap one and it worked like a charm. Much better than expected.
Yes, it only covers the windshield but that takes care of 80% of sun. The loose, sloppy fit means that it has little actual contact with the windshield so scratching is not a problem. It's super light, fan folds for storage, and it has a slot in the middle so it can hang on the rear view mirror. The same slot fits around our center post just fine.
I works so well that even if I neglect to deploy it at tie down, I'll often put it up during pre-flight to cool things off and do my pre-flight stuff. On a sunny ramp, it's the last thing I stow before shutting the doors and starting the engine.
I used regular canopy covers on my sailplanes years ago but they have a few problems. Scratching and dirt being one. That's real pain if you get high winds overnight and/or the hold downs are not properly in place and the cover flaps around for a few hours or days. Then you reto always disassemble and box it).
Anyway, you should try one of these things. I don't have any water leaks so the only thing I'm looking for is sun protection. These things are cheap, very easy to use, super light and easy to stow. Blocking only most of the sun coming thru the windshield I've found is more than sufficient for casual parking. The canopy cover would be the thing to use if it's tied out all the time.
Triple Tree fly-in! Didn't know they had one but wish I had. Great place and people there. I was there a few years ago for an RC event. Anyplace self-described as the "Augusta of Aviation" is worth a visit. Assuming it's there next year, I'll have to give it a try. Have fun Wayne!
Bill "suggests getting cowl plugs too - it's amazing how much material a starling can fit under a RV10 cowling... and how hard it is to get it all out" Watson
On 8/30/2012 11:19 PM, rv10flyer wrote:
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> I have Abby's, carried it on a few long trips and have not used it yet. Hangared on one trip. When should I use it? I have been worried about trapping dirt beneath with wind and scratching plexi. I do have a few water leaks around door hinge screws that I need to seal up. Do most of you install it for security/sun fading/water leaks/cabin cooler??
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dmaib@me.com
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:18 am Post subject: Re: Travel canopy cover recommendations |
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We use ours (Flightline cover) all the time and have not had any issues with scratching the plexi. It sat outside for 10 days in Asheville, NC last month during some very hot weather. I noticed a bit of sticky residue from the cover on my aft cabin top. It wiped right off with no problem. I am not sure if something from the cover came off because of the heat or if there was something on the airplane that I did not notice prior to installing the cover.
The last time we went to Cedar Key, I put it on, even though we were only going to be there for a few hours. Combination of protection from the fierce FL sun and prying eyes, makes it worth the few minutes it takes to install.
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Kelly McMullen
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:44 am Post subject: Travel canopy cover recommendations |
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Custom made, fully cloth bound inside covers can be good, especially
if you have to store an aircraft outside for an extended period in a
very dusty climate. That is why the majority of aircraft parked on the
ramp in Arizona have them. Most are custom made to fit factory built
aircraft.
On the other hand, for a trip, temporary outside storage, the external
cover provides protection from both sun and rain. Whether you install
it or not can be based on local forecast for the few days you are
staying away from home.
I had both varieties for my Mooney. After I replaced the windows with
new(to eliminate 40 yrs of scratches and cloudiness) I pitched the
inside covers. I plan on an external cover for the RV for travel, and
hangar at Aridzona home base.
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com> wrote:
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See that's where my opinion differs. If you go with the aluminized stuff, you need to do your very best to minimize contact with the windows...and perhaps find the least real metallic ones you can. I went to Walmart and bought some good ones and cut to fit back for OSH a few years ago. Now, those are the ONLY real scratches I have on my windows...on the inside. I scratched my windows far far more by using sun shields than the canopy ever did....and scratches are harder to fix on the inside.
So personally, I wouldn't go with this advice. But, if you're doing it real real carefully and using great materials and re-binding any cut edges to protect the window, then I'm sure it would be a good idea. I know mine made a significant decrease in heat cutting. The canopy cover, however, does an even better job for me. I don't know where Abby gets that white on black material but it's awesome stuff.
Tim
On Aug 31, 2012, at 1:21 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> wrote:
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> I don't use one but I do use one of those aluminized sun guards that are used in autos. I'd recommend getting and using one before investing in a regular canopy cover or perhaps in lieu of using the one you have.
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> When we landed in Phoenix early this summer, it felt like my interior started melting and things just started coming apart. I looked around the ramp and saw that practically every airplane, especially the jets, had one of those sun guards in the windshield. A quick trip to Autozone and I found a half dozen varieties from less than $5 to $25 or so. I picked a cheap one and it worked like a charm. Much better than expected.
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> Yes, it only covers the windshield but that takes care of 80% of sun. The loose, sloppy fit means that it has little actual contact with the windshield so scratching is not a problem. It's super light, fan folds for storage, and it has a slot in the middle so it can hang on the rear view mirror. The same slot fits around our center post just fine.
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> I works so well that even if I neglect to deploy it at tie down, I'll often put it up during pre-flight to cool things off and do my pre-flight stuff. On a sunny ramp, it's the last thing I stow before shutting the doors and starting the engine.
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> I used regular canopy covers on my sailplanes years ago but they have a few problems. Scratching and dirt being one. That's real pain if you get high winds overnight and/or the hold downs are not properly in place and the cover flaps around for a few hours or days. Then you reto always disassemble and box it).
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> Anyway, you should try one of these things. I don't have any water leaks so the only thing I'm looking for is sun protection. These things are cheap, very easy to use, super light and easy to stow. Blocking only most of the sun coming thru the windshield I've found is more than sufficient for casual parking. The canopy cover would be the thing to use if it's tied out all the time.
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> Triple Tree fly-in! Didn't know they had one but wish I had. Great place and people there. I was there a few years ago for an RC event. Anyplace self-described as the "Augusta of Aviation" is worth a visit. Assuming it's there next year, I'll have to give it a try. Have fun Wayne!
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> Bill "suggests getting cowl plugs too - it's amazing how much material a starling can fit under a RV10 cowling... and how hard it is to get it all out" Watson
> On 8/30/2012 11:19 PM, rv10flyer wrote:
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>> I have Abby's, carried it on a few long trips and have not used it yet. Hangared on one trip. When should I use it? I have been worried about trapping dirt beneath with wind and scratching plexi. I do have a few water leaks around door hinge screws that I need to seal up. Do most of you install it for security/sun fading/water leaks/cabin cooler??
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:16 am Post subject: Travel canopy cover recommendations |
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I was concerned about scratching plexi as well. At the beginning I left a
towel over the front windscreen, but it became apparent that that is not
needed if I assure the plexi was cleaned first. I used mine in SC, GA in
June and the plane was kept quite cool. To answer your "security/sun
fading/water leaks/cabin cooler??" Yes! anytime I am somewhere with 104f
heat (NM mid day) I use it for 1 hour or more of sitting. It has made a oven
a comfortable cabin.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:54 am Post subject: Travel canopy cover recommendations |
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i'm going to have to take a more critical look at what I'm doing.
I didn't do any customization and my windshield doesn't 'fit' closely at
all. I just stick it in there. The rear window aren't covered at all.
The edges are covered but will be checking later today.
Thanks
Bill
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See that's where my opinion differs. If you go with the aluminized stuff, you need to do your very best to minimize contact with the windows...and perhaps find the least real metallic ones you can. I went to Walmart and bought some good ones and cut to fit back for OSH a few years ago. Now, those are the ONLY real scratches I have on my windows...on the inside. I scratched my windows far far more by using sun shields than the canopy ever did....and scratches are harder to fix on the inside.
So personally, I wouldn't go with this advice. But, if you're doing it real real carefully and using great materials and re-binding any cut edges to protect the window, then I'm sure it would be a good idea. I know mine made a significant decrease in heat cutting. The canopy cover, however, does an even better job for me. I don't know where Abby gets that white on black material but it's awesome stuff.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:56 am Post subject: Re: Travel canopy cover recommendations |
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You guys are great as always when helping a new(2008) pilot out. I have worked on airplanes/helicopters since I was 17. There are many things you just don't learn as an A&P or even in flight training.
Bill "and others using mylar reflective heat shield" Watson. I did forget to mention that I used that at Osh this year and it seemed to keep the inside much cooler. I kept it away from windshield as much as possible. I think I will try to keep my glareshield area blown clean with shop air and keep it on the aft side of cabin brace like at Osh. I had read about the interaction it can have with plexi.
Side Note: Going to Triple Tree SC00 Sep 6,7 & 8th mit family. Hopefully cooler camping than Osh. Now that was a miserable five days. Would love to see you guys down there. Nice smooth grass- 7000' X 400'. I believe I can leave my pants on for our -10's first grass landing????
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| Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:57 am Post subject: Travel canopy cover recommendations |
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I wish we could go but we are committed elsewhere this year. TT was a great place 5 years ago when I first went down there and I can barely recognize it in current pics.
Don't even think about removing pants or anything. This is the nicest grass runway you or I may ever see. Think putting green (at least before all that traffic gets on it). When I went in there with my Maule, I was the only full scale aircraft in sight but I watched heavy RC models with 1" wheels operate off of there.
I see they have a new mower they are showing off... It's probably worth checking it out. There's a lot of mechanical talent and restless energy floating around there.
I'm thinking that rain and moisture is a big factor in grass field ops. I'll bet that they have some sort of fancy drainage/irrigation system in place there. Or maybe it's just graded perfectly... Or both.
Enjoy!
Bill
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On Aug 31, 2012, at 10:56 AM, "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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You guys are great as always when helping a new(2008) pilot out. I have worked on airplanes/helicopters since I was 17. There are many things you just don't learn as an A&P or even in flight training.
Bill "and others using mylar reflective heat shield" Watson. I did forget to mention that I used that at Osh this year and it seemed to keep the inside much cooler. I kept it away from windshield as much as possible. I think I will try to keep my glareshield area blown clean with shop air and keep it on the aft side of cabin brace like at Osh. I had read about the interaction it can have with plexi.
Side Note: Going to Triple Tree SC00 Sep 6,7 & 8th mit family. Hopefully cooler camping than Osh. Now that was a miserable five days. Would love to see you guys down there. Nice smooth grass- 7000' X 400'. I believe I can leave my pants on for our -10's first grass landing????
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40983SB 12/1/2009-12/1/2011
N715WD TT= 76.9 and loving it!
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