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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:39 pm    Post subject: Fuel Pressure Sensor search Reply with quote

Searching for a low pressure 7.5psi (0.5 bar) fuel (avgas) pressure sensor.
Can be either two or three terminal.

thanks for leads (brands or unused items), -john-


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:50 pm    Post subject: Fuel Pressure Sensor search Reply with quote

At 06:38 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote:
Quote:


Searching for a low pressure 7.5psi (0.5 bar) fuel (avgas) pressure sensor.
Can be either two or three terminal.

thanks for leads (brands or unused items), -john-

Finding such a critter with a full scale
range that small is problematic . . . especially
one with all metal pressure-side materials
that would be okay with gasoline.

Suggest you look at something like this

http://tinyurl.com/9uw647y
http://tinyurl.com/8unuxge
http://tinyurl.com/983v7o7
http://tinyurl.com/99xfyrs

This is a small sample of possibilities.
They're all aerospace grade devices at
very reasonable prices compared to off the
shelf new. Even as used devices, transducers
of this genre' are likely to be a better
value than automotive devices.
Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:39 pm    Post subject: Fuel Pressure Sensor search Reply with quote

Interesting. The first is one made by my company.

Dick Tasker

Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
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At 06:38 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote:
>
>
> Searching for a low pressure 7.5psi (0.5 bar) fuel (avgas) pressure sensor.
> Can be either two or three terminal.
>
> thanks for leads (brands or unused items), -john-

Finding such a critter with a full scale
range that small is problematic . . . especially
one with all metal pressure-side materials
that would be okay with gasoline.

Suggest you look at something like this

http://tinyurl.com/9uw647y
http://tinyurl.com/8unuxge
http://tinyurl.com/983v7o7
http://tinyurl.com/99xfyrs

This is a small sample of possibilities.
They're all aerospace grade devices at
very reasonable prices compared to off the
shelf new. Even as used devices, transducers
of this genre' are likely to be a better
value than automotive devices.
Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Sensor search Reply with quote

Those are higher pressure (7.5 psi) sensors than john asked for.

Working with a cabin tank and gravity fed fuel line here (no fuel pump).

How would it be plumbed and wired into a gravity fed fuel line from a cabin tank mounted between the instrument panel and the firewall, with the fuel line routed from the bottom of the tank going forward to the firewall mounted gascolator, and finally to the carburetor?

What gauge would work with it?

Thanks,
Eric Schlanser

[quote="retasker(at)optonline.net"]Interesting. The first is one made by my company.

Dick Tasker

Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
[quote]

At 06:38 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote:
>
>
> Searching for a low pressure 7.5psi (0.5 bar) fuel (avgas) pressure sensor.
> Can be either two or three terminal.
>
> thanks for leads (brands or unused items), -john-

Finding such a critter with a full scale
range that small is problematic . . . especially
one with all metal pressure-side materials
that would be okay with gasoline.

Suggest you look at something like this

http://tinyurl.com/9uw647y
http://tinyurl.com/8unuxge
http://tinyurl.com/983v7o7
http://tinyurl.com/99xfyrs

This is a small sample of possibilities.
They're all aerospace grade devices at
very reasonable prices compared to off the
shelf new. Even as used devices, transducers
of this genre' are likely to be a better
value than automotive devices.
Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:21 pm    Post subject: Fuel Pressure Sensor search Reply with quote

If it is just gravity fed, what is the point of a pressure sensor? If you are planning to use it as a fuel gauge, that
would be not so easy. The majority of the gravity fed head is from the bottom of the fuel tank in the wings to the
point of use. The head pressure in the wing from full to empty is a small fraction of that. So you would need a sensor
that can withstand avgas (or autogas if that is what you are using) that could measure only a few inches of water
(fractions of a psi). Possible, but not so easy.

Dick Tasker

P.S. We (www.astsensors.com) do make sensors that will measure down to 5 inH2O but the cost is not particularly
appealing for this type of use.

eschlanser wrote:
[quote]

Those are higher pressure (7.5 psi) sensors than john asked for.

Working with a cabin tank and gravity fed fuel line here (no fuel pump).

How would it be plumbed and wired into a gravity fed fuel line from a cabin tank mounted between the instrument panel and the firewall, with the fuel line routed from the bottom of the tank going forward to the firewall mounted gascolator, and finally to the carburetor?

What gauge would work with it?

Thanks,
Eric Schlanser

[quote="retasker(at)optonline.net"]Interesting. The first is one made by my company.

Dick Tasker

Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
Quote:


At 06:38 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote:
>
> Searching for a low pressure 7.5psi (0.5 bar) fuel (avgas) pressure sensor.
> Can be either two or three terminal.
>
> thanks for leads (brands or unused items), -john-
Finding such a critter with a full scale
range that small is problematic . . . especially
one with all metal pressure-side materials
that would be okay with gasoline.

Suggest you look at something like this

http://tinyurl.com/9uw647y
http://tinyurl.com/8unuxge
http://tinyurl.com/983v7o7
http://tinyurl.com/99xfyrs

This is a small sample of possibilities.
They're all aerospace grade devices at
very reasonable prices compared to off the
shelf new. Even as used devices, transducers
of this genre' are likely to be a better
value than automotive devices.
Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Sensor search Reply with quote

I was thinking fuel flow, not fuel level. I suspect it's not appropriate for that use. Nevermind.
thanks,
Eric


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: Fuel Pressure Sensor search Reply with quote

I think a fuel tank pressure transducer or switch would be a nice to have to warn about a plugged vent. Some accidents have happened because the fuel tank vent was plugged. Is there an inexpensive and easy way to monitor fuel tank pressure? Perhaps an automotive fuel tank pressure sensor would work. I even thought about mounting a microswitch against the outside of the tank, if tank geometry and accessibility allowed. The switch would operate if the tank skin was forced inward by atmospheric pressure. A low pressure warning might prevent a forced landing. Of course a thorough pre-flight inspection of the fuel vent is easier than installing more instrumentation. Some of us forget or are in a hurry. Just thinking out loud.
Joe


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:16 am    Post subject: Fuel Pressure Sensor search Reply with quote

Thanks all for leads. I've settled on the 0-5psi (0.33 bar) fuel pressure
sensor that Dynon sells for their engine monitor system. They designate it
for Jabiru/Rotax gravity feed applications, exactly my situation.

thanks again, -john-
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