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				 Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:46 am    Post subject: Great Weekend | 
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				The first ( pic)on the ground, and the 2d about 1000' over eastern PA. 
 (look past the Norton bombsight...>>
 Hi Charlie,
 
 nice pics. Lucky guy.  The undernose gun turret (which makes it a B-17G) was 
 added to deter German fighter pilots who were breaking up the USAAF box 
 formations by attacking head on. A pretty gutsy manouvre if you ask me.
 
 The bombsight, with which the USAAF boasted they could `drop a bomb in a 
 pickle barrel from 20,000ft` was the NORDEN not Norton. Picky, picky. 
 Incidentaly they couldn`t. In fact they were no better with bombing accuracy 
 than the RAF which was pretty awful until quite late in the war.  That is 
 apart from the specialist low level Mosquito squadrons which flew up the 
 main street and tossed a bomb through the front door of the SS Headquarters 
 in the Hague to destroy their records. They also pinpointed some bombs onto 
 the Prison at Amien in `Operation Jericho`. They blew up the German guards 
 mess hall, blew open the cells and knocked a hole in the prison wall through 
 which dozens of prisoners escaped. Including one Resistance leader who knew 
 the invasion  date, which was why the raid was laid on . I saw the repair in 
 the prison wall when I went past the prison on a visit to the trenches and 
 few years ago.
 
 The Canadian Lancaster is painted in the colours and markings of a plane 
 which flew from an airfield about 10 miles from my home. She was delivered 
 to the airfield as brand new on D-Day, 6th June, did about 7 raids into 
 France and was shot down around the 20th. She had a crew of Canadians 
 including Mynarski, the upper turret gunner. During her bombing run the 
 plane was hit and caught fire and the bale out order was given. Mynarsky 
 came down from his turret to bale out and found the rear gunners turret had 
 jammed, trapping the gunner. The turret had to be aligned fore and aft for 
 the gunner to enter or leave. Hydraulics were out and the turret couldn`t be 
 turned. Mynarski went through the flames to try to get the gunner out but 
 failed. The gunner told him to get out while he could and he eventually went 
 back through the flames and jumped out. Watchers on the ground said he came 
 out  in a ball of flame.
 All the crew died in he crash, except the rear gunner, whose turret detached 
 and he survived.
 The Canadian Lanc is maintained as a memorial to all the Canucks lost in the 
 air war in Europe.
 
 In the UK we have the only other flying Lanc in the world as part of the 
 Battle of Britain Flight, which also includes a Spit and a Hurricane.
 We also have J for Jane which is a Lanc which cannot fly as she needs a new 
 main spar (1 Million pounds sterling) but does taxi runs . I managed to get 
 on one of those a couple of years ago. In fact it isn`t so much a `run` as a 
 creep but being inside the fuselage with those four Merlins roaring just 
 feet away is certainly thrilling.
 
 Forgive the non Kolb post but I think most flyers are interested in flying 
 generally, not just what pertains to their own type of machine.
 
 Cheers
 
 Pat
 
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		Earl Zimmerman
 
  
  Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 35 Location: Elizabethtown, PA
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:33 am    Post subject: Great Weekend | 
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				Charles Davis wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Well, I didn't pilot, but I got to fly...if the pictures come through,
  they are of the nose of a B17.  The first on the ground, and the 2d
  about 1000' over eastern PA.  (look past the Norton bombsight...).  We
  also got to see a Canadian Lancaster fly, one of only 2 in the world.
  I see in Sport Aviation that it'll be at Air Venture, and I would
  recommend it.
  
  To keep this Kolb related:  on the to the way to the Reading, PA  WWII
  Weekend Airshow, we stopped at KPTW for the  EAA chapter's annual
  pancake breakfast, and were pleased to find Homer enjoying the food
  and the sights.  He confirmed that he is tinkering with some designs
  for multi-engined single and 2 place planes, but only for his own
  enjoyment.
  
  Chuck
  Malvern, PA
  Firefly
 
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 I was flying on Sunday and the B17 past me on the way back to Reading. 
 He was flying at 2000 MSL.    ~ Earl
 
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		Ralph Hoover
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: Great Weekend | 
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				Pat Ladd wrote:
 
 All the crew died in the crash, except the rear gunner, whose turret detached and he survived.
 
 Now Pat, that is really an aussome story. Thank you.
 
 So is the mess hall bomb. I know how much der Germans like their crout und pork! YA?
 
 Half German, half Itilian Ralph of Ohio....Now you all know TOO MUCH!
 
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