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		Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:33 am    Post subject: Another RV-10 down? | 
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				Well, we know he didn't leave the dip stick out.  You know about that 
 almost before you get off the ground.
 
 Bill "don't ask" Watson
 
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  It will be interesting to see what was the cause on this
  one....valve cover gasket?  Copper crush gasket?  Oil return
  line?  Could have been a bunch of things....could also be
  an automatic quick/drain.
 
  We'll see.
  Tim
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:03 am    Post subject: Another RV-10 down? | 
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				Jerry didn't seem to have any lack of faith in Aerosport.  That says a lot.  If I had to order an engine today, that's where I'd go.
   Dave Saylor
 831-750-0284 CL
  
 
 On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:
 [quote]  --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>
  
  Actually, Scott and I are over 900.  
  
  One of the reasons we went with Aerosport was the positive feedback
  on reliability.  I actually trust them very much and have had
  nothing but a positive experience from them. I get the feeling that
  they will bend over backwards and go further than they even
  should be willing to, to support your engine.  They've sent me
  seals and gaskets that I should have paid for, for free, and
  things like that.  Over and above.
  
  I can tell you that on my engine, my experience with those
  copper crush gaskets hasn't always been positive. It seems that
  over time those can be prone to leakage.  I had a leak on the
  right side of my engine that was fixed by replacing the copper
  crush gasket under my oil pressure adjuster on the right side.
  
  Certainly this isn't absolving the engine builder from
  any possibility of improper torquing or a faulty component
  causing an issue...nobody knows what happened yet.  But,
  I'm just saying, I think there are far more happy customers
  of this one than disappointed ones.  If you really want
  an eye opener, read the Lancair list for threads on the
  Performance Engines (Continental models) that they have, and
  what kinds of issues they have. That can be scary.
  
  It will be interesting to see what was the cause on this
  one....valve cover gasket?  Copper crush gasket?  Oil return
  line?  Could have been a bunch of things....could also be
  an automatic quick/drain.
  
  We'll see.
  Tim
  
  
  
  
  On 1/11/2013 8:42 AM, Seano wrote:
  [quote] I actually thought the same thing, who wouldn't?  It could have been a
  lot of other connections or accessories so we will have to wait to see
  what exactly happened.  Just for reference, I have an Aerosport
  IO-540-N1A5 with 300 hours.  Tim O and Scott S have them too with over
  800 hours each.
  
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		rv10flyer
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Another RV-10 down? | 
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				Did we ever find out what caused the hole in oil sump in Rck Gray's RV-10 emergency landing and fire?
 
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		gengrumpy(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:33 pm    Post subject: Another RV-10 down? | 
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				I second Tim's assessment on Aerosport Power engines!
 
 My IO-540 has been running like a Swiss watch and Bart & crew have always been responsive to any issues I have had.
 
 Grumpy
 N184JM ... flying since Nov 2006!
 
 do not archive
 
 On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
 
 [quote] 
  
  Actually, Scott and I are over 900.  
  
  One of the reasons we went with Aerosport was the positive feedback
  on reliability.  I actually trust them very much and have had
  nothing but a positive experience from them. I get the feeling that
  they will bend over backwards and go further than they even
  should be willing to, to support your engine.  They've sent me
  seals and gaskets that I should have paid for, for free, and
  things like that.  Over and above.
  
  I can tell you that on my engine, my experience with those
  copper crush gaskets hasn't always been positive. It seems that
  over time those can be prone to leakage.  I had a leak on the
  right side of my engine that was fixed by replacing the copper
  crush gasket under my oil pressure adjuster on the right side.
  
  Certainly this isn't absolving the engine builder from
  any possibility of improper torquing or a faulty component
  causing an issue...nobody knows what happened yet.  But,
  I'm just saying, I think there are far more happy customers
  of this one than disappointed ones.  If you really want
  an eye opener, read the Lancair list for threads on the
  Performance Engines (Continental models) that they have, and
  what kinds of issues they have. That can be scary.
  
  It will be interesting to see what was the cause on this
  one....valve cover gasket?  Copper crush gasket?  Oil return
  line?  Could have been a bunch of things....could also be
  an automatic quick/drain.
  
  We'll see.
  Tim
  
  
  
  
  On 1/11/2013 8:42 AM, Seano wrote:
 > I actually thought the same thing, who wouldn't?  It could have been a
 > lot of other connections or accessories so we will have to wait to see
 > what exactly happened.  Just for reference, I have an Aerosport
 > IO-540-N1A5 with 300 hours.  Tim O and Scott S have them too with over
 > 800 hours each.
 > 
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		dfritz(at)bpgsim.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:05 pm    Post subject: Another RV-10 down? | 
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				If I remember correctly, early last       year this list carried a discussion regarding Lycoming raising       prices of kits to the level that Aerosport and others stopped       building new engines.  Thus it looks like that option is off the       table.  Aerosport has a great reputation among the members of my       local EAA chapter.  That is where I was going in about a year, but       now I have to rethink my options.
        
        Dave
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 Dave Fritzsche
 40813
 Puyallup, WA
 Fuselage | 	         On 1/11/2013 9:02 AM, Dave Saylor wrote:
      
      [quote]       Jerry didn't seem to have any lack of faith           in Aerosport.  That says a lot.  If I had to order an engine           today, that's where I'd go.
                            Dave Saylor
            831-750-0284 CL
          
          
          On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Tim           Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>           wrote:
            [quote]             --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>
              
              Actually, Scott and I are over 900.  
              
              One of the reasons we went with Aerosport was the positive             feedback
              on reliability.  I actually trust them very much and have             had
              nothing but a positive experience from them. I get the             feeling that
              they will bend over backwards and go further than they even
              should be willing to, to support your engine.  They've sent             me
              seals and gaskets that I should have paid for, for free, and
              things like that.  Over and above.
              
              I can tell you that on my engine, my experience with those
              copper crush gaskets hasn't always been positive. It seems             that
              over time those can be prone to leakage.  I had a leak on             the
              right side of my engine that was fixed by replacing the             copper
              crush gasket under my oil pressure adjuster on the right             side.
              
              Certainly this isn't absolving the engine builder from
              any possibility of improper torquing or a faulty component
              causing an issue...nobody knows what happened yet.  But,
              I'm just saying, I think there are far more happy customers
              of this one than disappointed ones.  If you really want
              an eye opener, read the Lancair list for threads on the
              Performance Engines (Continental models) that they have, and
              what kinds of issues they have. That can be scary.
              
              It will be interesting to see what was the cause on this
              one....valve cover gasket?  Copper crush gasket?  Oil return
              line?  Could have been a bunch of things....could also be
              an automatic quick/drain.
              
              We'll see.
              Tim
              
              
              
              
              On 1/11/2013 8:42 AM, Seano wrote:
              [quote]               I actually thought the same thing, who wouldn't?  It could               have been a
                lot of other connections or accessories so we will have to               wait to see
                what exactly happened.  Just for reference, I have an               Aerosport
                IO-540-N1A5 with 300 hours.  Tim O and Scott S have them               too with over
                800 hours each.
                
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		dhmoose
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Another RV-10 down? | 
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				As of 6 months ago, Aerosport was still building the engines for the -10, but the prices were significantly higher then what you can get a new IO540 for from Vans. I think the price was $56,000 vs $48,000 or so.  Aerosport was very upfront about their inability to be competitive, but were willing to build one new or help find a good core to overhaul.  
 
 David H
 [quote="dfritz(at)bpgsim.com"]If I remember correctly, early last       year this list carried a discussion regarding Lycoming raising       prices of kits to the level that Aerosport and others stopped       building new engines.  Thus it looks like that option is off the       table.  Aerosport has a great reputation among the members of my       local EAA chapter.  That is where I was going in about a year, but       now I have to rethink my options.
        
        Dave
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 Dave Fritzsche
 40813
 Puyallup, WA
 Fuselage | 	         On 1/11/2013 9:02 AM, Dave Saylor wrote:
      
      [quote]       Jerry didn't seem to have any lack of faith           in Aerosport.  That says a lot.  If I had to order an engine           today, that's where I'd go.
                            Dave Saylor
            831-750-0284 CL
          
          
          On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Tim           Olson <Tim>           wrote:
            [quote]             --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim>
              
              Actually, Scott and I are over 900.  
              
              One of the reasons we went with Aerosport was the positive             feedback
              on reliability.  I actually trust them very much and have             had
              nothing but a positive experience from them. I get the             feeling that
              they will bend over backwards and go further than they even
              should be willing to, to support your engine.  They've sent             me
              seals and gaskets that I should have paid for, for free, and
              things like that.  Over and above.
              
              I can tell you that on my engine, my experience with those
              copper crush gaskets hasn't always been positive. It seems             that
              over time those can be prone to leakage.  I had a leak on             the
              right side of my engine that was fixed by replacing the             copper
              crush gasket under my oil pressure adjuster on the right             side.
              
              Certainly this isn't absolving the engine builder from
              any possibility of improper torquing or a faulty component
              causing an issue...nobody knows what happened yet.  But,
              I'm just saying, I think there are far more happy customers
              of this one than disappointed ones.  If you really want
              an eye opener, read the Lancair list for threads on the
              Performance Engines (Continental models) that they have, and
              what kinds of issues they have. That can be scary.
              
              It will be interesting to see what was the cause on this
              one....valve cover gasket?  Copper crush gasket?  Oil return
              line?  Could have been a bunch of things....could also be
              an automatic quick/drain.
              
              We'll see.
              Tim
              
              
              
              
              On 1/11/2013 8:42 AM, Seano wrote:
               	  | Quote: | 	 		                 I actually thought the same thing, who wouldn't?  It could               have been a
                lot of other connections or accessories so we will have to               wait to see
                what exactly happened.  Just for reference, I have an               Aerosport
                IO-540-N1A5 with 300 hours.  Tim O and Scott S have them               too with over
                800 hours each.
                
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:14 am    Post subject: Another RV-10 down? | 
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				I spoke with Sue at Aerosport several weeks back about another issue but she told me with the price they were being charged for the IO540 parts from Lycoming they could no longer be competitive with Vans so they've stopped offering it. If you go to their web site aerosportpower.com and select engines you'll see they no longer offer the IO 540.
 
 Wayne Edgerton   N602WT
  
 
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