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 Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:31 pm Post subject: Performance Yak 52 |
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Arresting gear maybe?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:31 pm Post subject: Performance Yak 52 |
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Think tailhook would be the last desperat Solution for landing on The strip:-)
BR
Havard
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Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 23:06 skrev "Mark Davis" <markdavis(at)wbsnet.org>:
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I have a couple of lightly used tailhooks for an A-4 and an EA-6B that should solve your landing distance issue! Just here to help..... : )
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:33 pm Post subject: Performance Yak 52 |
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BZ Mr. Davis!
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:47 pm Post subject: Performance Yak 52 |
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Hi Bill,
Thanks for the info,
So take of should not be The problem. When you say 1500' landing distance, do you use 1500' for the rollout after wheels on the grass?
BR
Havard
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Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:04 skrev bill wade <bwade154(at)yahoo.com (bwade154(at)yahoo.com)>:
[quote]Hi Havard I operate a Yak 52 off 2400' grass at 1,100 elevation my Yak which is very stock uses halve the runway for takeoff (about700') that is required to land in (about 1500') so the weight loss and HP increase is going to be fun - fun - fun but your landing's are what's going to determine where you operate. My personal airport limit is 2,000'
Bill Wade N4450Y
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Subject: Re: Performance Yak 52
Yes like that myself to!
But when The field I gone use here in Norway is shorter than shortest! improvments has to be done:-)
BR
Havard
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Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:54 skrev cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com):
| Quote: | No, no details. Vortex generators have been around a long time and their benefits are well know. And except for making the wing harder to clean or polish and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked effect on stall and control effeteness at or near stall angles of attack.
I'd put them on my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply don't need them. I just don't fly that part of the envelope often enough, plus I like the "quaintness" of a vintage warbird. Just me.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com (havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com) writes:
| Quote: | Hi thanks,
Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
BR
Havard
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| Quote: | Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it. Owner said it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y airfoil is the same on all the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placement.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com (havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com) writes:
| Quote: | Hi,
Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch. Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880 kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for short take off and landing fields.
Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb rate most importent.
Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, benefits on stall speed etc..?
The rebuild will be possible to follow onhttp://www.yaknorway.com/ when we start.
Best regards
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:50 pm Post subject: Performance Yak 52 |
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Please explain what you mean with arresting gear William?
BR
Havard
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Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:27 skrev "William Halverson" <william(at)netpros.net (william(at)netpros.net)>:
[quote]Arresting gear maybe?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:02 pm Post subject: Performance Yak 52 |
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The main reason for testing out this is that for The last 5 years I have been in a "war" with neigbours and The goverment for creating a safe landing field of 2000'! It seems like I am losing that battle and have to use The 690' field! So then The big question is if we settle down with flying Super Cub or find Solutions for The Yak. Since I gone rebuild this Yak pretty mutch after it suffered a hangar roof collapse it might be intresting to find out what can be done with a 52!
Havard
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Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:42 skrev Håvard Dale <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com (havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com)>:
[quote]Hi Bill,
Thanks for the info,
So take of should not be The problem. When you say 1500' landing distance, do you use 1500' for the rollout after wheels on the grass?
BR
Havard
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Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:04 skrev bill wade <bwade154(at)yahoo.com (bwade154(at)yahoo.com)>:
| Quote: | Hi Havard I operate a Yak 52 off 2400' grass at 1,100 elevation my Yak which is very stock uses halve the runway for takeoff (about700') that is required to land in (about 1500') so the weight loss and HP increase is going to be fun - fun - fun but your landing's are what's going to determine where you operate. My personal airport limit is 2,000'
Bill Wade N4450Y
From: Håvard Dale <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com (havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com)>
To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)" <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Performance Yak 52
Yes like that myself to!
But when The field I gone use here in Norway is shorter than shortest! improvments has to be done:-)
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:54 skrev cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com):
| Quote: | No, no details. Vortex generators have been around a long time and their benefits are well know. And except for making the wing harder to clean or polish and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked effect on stall and control effeteness at or near stall angles of attack.
I'd put them on my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply don't need them. I just don't fly that part of the envelope often enough, plus I like the "quaintness" of a vintage warbird. Just me.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com (havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com) writes:
| Quote: | Hi thanks,
Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:16 skrev cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com):
| Quote: | Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it. Owner said it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y airfoil is the same on all the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placement.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com (havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com) writes:
| Quote: | Hi,
Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch. Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880 kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for short take off and landing fields.
Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb rate most importent.
Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, benefits on stall speed etc..?
The rebuild will be possible to follow onhttp://www.yaknorway.com/ when we start.
Best regards
Havard Dale
Norway
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From wheels touching to complete stop 1,500'. With practice and heavy braking you might get it down to 1200' wind, altitude and temperature can help or hurt. But let me reiterate my personal limit is 2,000' airstrips and I've been flying my Yak for 14 years.
Bill Wade
From: Hvard Dale <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com" <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: Performance Yak 52
Hi Bill,
Thanks for the info,
So take of should not be The problem. When you say 1500' landing distance, do you use 1500' for the rollout after wheels on the grass?
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:04 skrev bill wade <bwade154(at)yahoo.com (bwade154(at)yahoo.com)>:
| Quote: | Hi Havard I operate a Yak 52 off 2400' grass at 1,100 elevation my Yak which is very stock uses halve the runway for takeoff (about700') that is required to land in (about 1500') so the weight loss and HP increase is going to be fun - fun - fun but your landing's are what's going to determine where you operate. My personal airport limit is 2,000'
Bill Wade N4450Y
From: Hvard Dale <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com (havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com)>
To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)" <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Performance Yak 52
Yes like that myself to!
But when The field I gone use here in Norway is shorter than shortest! improvments has to be done:-)
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:54 skrev cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com):
| Quote: | No, no details. Vortex generators have been around a long time and their benefits are well know. And except for making the wing harder to clean or polish and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked effect on stall and control effeteness at or near stall angles of attack.
I'd put them on my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply don't need them. I just don't fly that part of the envelope often enough, plus I like the "quaintness" of a vintage warbird. Just me.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com (havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com) writes:
| Quote: | Hi thanks,
Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
BR
Havard
Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:16 skrev cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com):
| Quote: | Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it. Owner said it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y airfoil is the same on all the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placement.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com (havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com) writes:
| Quote: | Hi,
Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch. Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880 kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for short take off and landing fields.
Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb rate most importent.
Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, benefits on stall speed etc..?
The rebuild will be possible to follow onhttp://www.yaknorway.com/when we start.
Best regards
Havard Dale
Norway
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Yes Havard I would like to know how your Yak performs once you get it flying. I,ve often thought about stripping mine out, I'd say I could get 240Lbs out of the Yak, but everything works just fine now.
Bill
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To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com" <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
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The main reason for testing out this is that for The last 5 years I have been in a "war" with neigbours and The goverment for creating a safe landing field of 2000'! It seems like I am losing that battle and have to use The 690' field! So then The big question is if we settle down with flying Super Cub or find Solutions for The Yak. Since I gone rebuild this Yak pretty mutch after it suffered a hangar roof collapse it might be intresting to find out what can be done with a 52!
Havard
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Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:42 skrev Hvard Dale <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com (havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com)>:
| Quote: | Hi Bill,
Thanks for the info,
So take of should not be The problem. When you say 1500' landing distance, do you use 1500' for the rollout after wheels on the grass?
BR
Havard
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| Quote: | Hi Havard I operate a Yak 52 off 2400' grass at 1,100 elevation my Yak which is very stock uses halve the runway for takeoff (about700') that is required to land in (about 1500') so the weight loss and HP increase is going to be fun - fun - fun but your landing's are what's going to determine where you operate. My personal airport limit is 2,000'
Bill Wade N4450Y
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Yes like that myself to!
But when The field I gone use here in Norway is shorter than shortest! improvments has to be done:-)
BR
Havard
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| Quote: | No, no details. Vortex generators have been around a long time and their benefits are well know. And except for making the wing harder to clean or polish and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked effect on stall and control effeteness at or near stall angles of attack.
I'd put them on my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply don't need them. I just don't fly that part of the envelope often enough, plus I like the "quaintness" of a vintage warbird. Just me.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com (havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com) writes:
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Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
BR
Havard
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| Quote: | Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it. Owner said it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y airfoil is the same on all the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placement.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:07:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com (havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com) writes:
| Quote: | Hi,
Just bought an 52. Previous Owner has allready lightning it pretty mutch. Now has empty weigh on 915kg. Intension is to make it more light around 880 kg. Engine will be upgraded to 400+HP. The Aircraft has to be prepaired for short take off and landing fields.
Any suggestions on best proppel to use? cruisespeed not importent, climb rate most importent.
Also would like to now if any has experience on wortex kit on Yak 52, benefits on stall speed etc..?
The rebuild will be possible to follow onhttp://www.yaknorway.com/when we start.
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Arresting gear is the shipboard system of cross deck pennants (wires) and arresting gear engines that wayward Naval Aviators attempt to snag with their tailhook while attempting to return to their perch.
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Everything you want has already been done to the TW. I would never try to fly mine off 700 ft. And expect to keep from the insurance company.
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Bill,
Updates will come on our website www.yaknorway.com
Thanks for The information
BR
Havard
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Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 01:34 skrev bill wade <bwade154(at)yahoo.com>:
[quote] Yes Havard I would like to know how your Yak performs once you get it flying. I,ve often thought about stripping mine out, I'd say I could get 240Lbs out of the Yak, but everything works just fine now.
Bill
From: Håvard Dale <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com" <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Performance Yak 52
The main reason for testing out this is that for The last 5 years I have been in a "war" with neigbours and The goverment for creating a safe landing field of 2000'! It seems like I am losing that battle and have to use The 690' field! So then The big question is if we settle down with flying Super Cub or find Solutions for The Yak. Since I gone rebuild this Yak pretty mutch after it suffered a hangar roof collapse it might be intresting to find out what can be done with a 52!
Havard
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Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:42 skrev Håvard Dale <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>:
> Hi Bill,
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> Thanks for the info,
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> So take of should not be The problem. When you say 1500' landing distance, do you use 1500' for the rollout after wheels on the grass?
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> BR
> Havard
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> Den 10. juli 2013 kl. 00:04 skrev bill wade <bwade154(at)yahoo.com>:
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>> Hi Havard I operate a Yak 52 off 2400' grass at 1,100 elevation my Yak which is very stock uses halve the runway for takeoff (about700') that is required to land in (about 1500') so the weight loss and HP increase is going to be fun - fun - fun but your landing's are what's going to determine where you operate. My personal airport limit is 2,000'
>> Bill Wade N4450Y
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>> From: Håvard Dale <havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com>
>> To: "yak-list(at)matronics.com" <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 9:18 AM
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>> Yes like that myself to!
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>> But when The field I gone use here in Norway is shorter than shortest! improvments has to be done:-)
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>> BR
>> Havard
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>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
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>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:54 skrev cjpilot710(at)aol.com:
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>>> No, no details. Vortex generators have been around a long time and their benefits are well know. And except for making the wing harder to clean or polish and snagging your cloths on, do have a marked effect on stall and control effeteness at or near stall angles of attack.
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>>> I'd put them on my CJ-6 (I believe some guys have) but I simply don't need them. I just don't fly that part of the envelope often enough, plus I like the "quaintness" of a vintage warbird. Just me.
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>>> Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
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>>> In a message dated 7/9/2013 8:41:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, havard.dale(at)yaknorway.com writes:
>>> Hi thanks,
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>>> Did he specify The benefits on stall speed?
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>>> BR
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>>> Havard
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>>> Sendt fra min iPhone 4S
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>>> Den 9. juli 2013 kl. 14:16 skrev cjpilot710(at)aol.com:
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>>>> Just saw a Yak 52TW out in Cody, Wy. with a vortex kit on it. Owner said it made a "good deal of difference". The Clark Y airfoil is the same on all the Yaks, so you shouldn't have a problem figuring the proper placement
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1.3.4. T-O run at 120 k/m takeoff speed:
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- for skiplane - 200 m
1.3.5. Landing Run at 115 km/h contact speed:
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- for skiplane - 240 m
Did I see in an earlier post that said the length of your runway was 690 feet with an upslope and a down slope at either end?
Don't think take off is going to be a problem. That even with assuming that your take off runs will be extended at first because of the uphill run to the crest of your runway depending the grade. Landings...well maybe you may want to make that runway more like 1500 feet at a minimum so you can have a margin of error.
Just my two cents.
Doc
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Well, maybe its not possible! But Take off, no problem! Landing may be a problem! Offcourse this will be tested on other airfield before on my own field.
Not so stupid that I am testing it out on this field!!
How long do you mean its requiered then? 800? 1000? 2000??
Nothing is imposible! Just The mather of finding correct Solutions:-)
Havard
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Yes forgot that one! With a little aft bulk head strengthening the tail hook should work.
Doc
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I have a couple of lightly used tailhooks for an A-4 and an EA-6B that should solve your landing distance issue! Just here to help..... : )
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Dale,
Please explain. You have a tail hook and arresting gear already installed on your 52 TW?
If so please post pictures. I am sure there are a few ol Naval aviators lurking on this list that would really love to see the mechanics of your arrangement. It bring back days of glory when they all sought the "3 wire" on their crash landings on the decks of their "boats".
We AF pukes on requested the "cable" when we had a hydualic system failure. Twice in my long and illustrious life was I in the "barrier".
Yes, Dale, I do believe the Naval crash landers on the list can help with this issue.
Doc
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I wasn't talking about the BS tail hook stuff.
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If you're looking for a major weight improvement , , the Orlov design bureau in Odessa can sort you out with a set of composite wings +7-4 g in the TD configuration. Same wing design only with slotted flaps on each wing with electrical multi position actuator. 90L per side with intergrated tanks .Standard yak air operated retractable gear. All in for around $26, 000.
Regards
Brad Banks
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I wasn't talking about the BS tail hook stuff.
Read this topic online here:
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Interesting. Bradly do you have a web address or an email address for them. Google gave me some interior design company in Ontario, Canada.
Thanks,
Doc
Dale was not trying to be a pompous American. The T-6 (SNJ) was fitted with a tail hook for carrier qualifications. That design capability could feasibly be engineered for the 52, not that I have any interest in that. Now the wings that Bradly spoke of has peaked my interest.
Thanks,
Doc
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If you're looking for a major weight improvement , , the Orlov design bureau in Odessa can sort you out with a set of composite wings +7-4 g in the TD configuration. Same wing design only with slotted flaps on each wing with electrical multi position actuator. 90L per side with intergrated tanks .Standard yak air operated retractable gear. All in for around $26, 000.
Regards
Brad Banks
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I wasn't talking about the BS tail hook stuff.
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Sure its Sergey orlov and his company is airnotika ill put the email address up later on today
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From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
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To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
Interesting. Bradly do you have a web address or an email address for them. Google gave me some interior design company in Ontario, Canada.
Thanks,
Doc
Dale was not trying to be a pompous American. The T-6 (SNJ) was fitted with a tail hook for carrier qualifications. That design capability could feasibly be engineered for the 52, not that I have any interest in that. Now the wings that Bradly spoke of has peaked my interest.
Thanks,
Doc
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On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Bradly Banks <brad(at)runawaymedia.co.za> wrote:
If you're looking for a major weight improvement , , the Orlov design bureau in Odessa can sort you out with a set of composite wings +7-4 g in the TD configuration. Same wing design only with slotted flaps on each wing with electrical multi position actuator. 90L per side with intergrated tanks .Standard yak air operated retractable gear. All in for around $26, 000.
Regards
Brad Banks
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From: Dale <dale(at)frii.com>
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To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
I wasn't talking about the BS tail hook stuff.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404361#404361
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brad(at)runawaymedia.co.z
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:34 am Post subject: Performance Yak 52 |
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Sergey Orlov email, airnotica(at)gmail.com
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From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
Date:
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
Interesting. Bradly do you have a web address or an email address for them. Google gave me some interior design company in Ontario, Canada.
Thanks,
Doc
Dale was not trying to be a pompous American. The T-6 (SNJ) was fitted with a tail hook for carrier qualifications. That design capability could feasibly be engineered for the 52, not that I have any interest in that. Now the wings that Bradly spoke of has peaked my interest.
Thanks,
Doc
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On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Bradly Banks <brad(at)runawaymedia.co.za (brad(at)runawaymedia.co.za)> wrote:
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If you're looking for a major weight improvement , , the Orlov design bureau in Odessa can sort you out with a set of composite wings +7-4 g in the TD configuration. Same wing design only with slotted flaps on each wing with electrical multi position actuator. 90L per side with intergrated tanks .Standard yak air operated retractable gear. All in for around $26, 000.
Regards
Brad Banks
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To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dale" <dale(at)frii.com (dale(at)frii.com)>
I wasn't talking about the BS tail hook stuff.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404361#404361
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:45 am Post subject: Performance Yak 52 |
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During a recent visit to the Ukraine , I visited his factory. Sergey (serge) is a graduate of the MiG institute in Moscow. He is a composite specialist .I have commissioned a set of yak composite wings from him, myself. I can vouch for him , he is a very demure quiet man with little to say but enormous experience.
Brad
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From: Bradly Banks <brad(at)runawaymedia.co.za>
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Sure its Sergey orlov and his company is airnotika ill put the email address up later on today
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From: "Roger Kemp M.D." <viperdoc(at)mindspring.com>
Date:
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
Interesting. Bradly do you have a web address or an email address for them. Google gave me some interior design company in Ontario, Canada.
Thanks,
Doc
Dale was not trying to be a pompous American. The T-6 (SNJ) was fitted with a tail hook for carrier qualifications. That design capability could feasibly be engineered for the 52, not that I have any interest in that. Now the wings that Bradly spoke of has peaked my interest.
Thanks,
Doc
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 10, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Bradly Banks <brad(at)runawaymedia.co.za> wrote:
If you're looking for a major weight improvement , , the Orlov design bureau in Odessa can sort you out with a set of composite wings +7-4 g in the TD configuration. Same wing design only with slotted flaps on each wing with electrical multi position actuator. 90L per side with intergrated tanks .Standard yak air operated retractable gear. All in for around $26, 000.
Regards
Brad Banks
Sent from Samsung Mobile
-------- Original message --------
From: Dale <dale(at)frii.com>
Date:
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Performance Yak 52
I wasn't talking about the BS tail hook stuff.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404361#404361
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