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		frans(at)privatepilots.nl Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:47 am    Post subject: Trip to Australia, is it possible? | 
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				Hi Friends,
 
 After our recent north cape trip Ilona and I are looking fow a new
 adventure.
 
 Ilona and I always wanted to go to Australia and we are now wondering if
 we could do that in our own Europa. We suddenly realised that my son
 will graduate next year and now he is still living at home and yet old
 enough to carry some responsibility to take care of our house, webshop
 and animals, this might be a convenient moment to undertake such a journey.
 
 We haven't been doing more yet than looking at the world globe and
 seeing that technically it should be possible.
 
 Before putting some time in it and then discovering that some countries
 would be unsolvable obstacles, I think it may be faster to ask for info
 on this list. I remember having seen some references to such a trip or
 the preparations for it, if this is correct it would be very valuable to
 learn from it.
 
 First questions that come to mind are: What time of year would be best
 for such a trip? I'm aware of the mosson-rain in some countries, but is
 the whole period unsuitable for flying? What about the middle-east and
 aziatic countries, is General Aviation possible? Do they tolerate home
 built airplanes? How much bureaucrazy is involved and how much time is
 needed to get the necessary permissions?
 
 Any info for this wild idea is welcome, either positive or negative.
 
 Thanks,
 Frans
 
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		davidjoyce(at)doctors.org Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:22 am    Post subject: Trip to Australia, is it possible? | 
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				Frans, it is possible. A Tiger Moth did it in 2001 or 
 thereabouts. I had planned to do it in 2009 with Ivor 
 Phillips, in one plane each with long range tank sitting 
 in passenger seat. Doing it 2 up would be considerably 
 more of a challenge. We got to an advanced stage in our 
 planning before my son developing Motor Neurone Disease 
 put paid to my plans. We worked out that a March departure 
 was probably optimal. I did write up an article in the 
 Europa Flyer with a brief description of the main issues, 
 but would be p,eased to share that reticle and other 
 fruits of our research with you off list. I have to say 
 hat the more research we did the more apparent it became 
 that it would be very expensive and pone to considerable 
 hassle in many countries once East of central Europe. 
 Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
 
 On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 15:46:50 +0200
   Frans Veldman <frans(at)privatepilots.nl> wrote:
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 <frans(at)privatepilots.nl>
  
  Hi Friends,
  
  After our recent north cape trip Ilona and I are looking 
 fow a new
  adventure.
  
  Ilona and I always wanted to go to Australia and we are 
 now wondering if
  we could do that in our own Europa. We suddenly realised 
 that my son
  will graduate next year and now he is still living at 
 home and yet old
  enough to carry some responsibility to take care of our 
 house, webshop
  and animals, this might be a convenient moment to 
 undertake such a journey.
  
  We haven't been doing more yet than looking at the world 
 globe and
  seeing that technically it should be possible.
  
  Before putting some time in it and then discovering that 
 some countries
  would be unsolvable obstacles, I think it may be faster 
 to ask for info
  on this list. I remember having seen some references to 
 such a trip or
  the preparations for it, if this is correct it would be 
 very valuable to
  learn from it.
  
 First questions that come to mind are: What time of year 
 would be best
  for such a trip? I'm aware of the mosson-rain in some 
 countries, but is
  the whole period unsuitable for flying? What about the 
 middle-east and
  aziatic countries, is General Aviation possible? Do they 
 tolerate home
  built airplanes? How much bureaucrazy is involved and 
 how much time is
  needed to get the necessary permissions?
  
  Any info for this wild idea is welcome, either positive 
 or negative.
  
  Thanks,
 Frans
  
  
 Un/Subscription,
 Forums!
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		davidjoyce(at)doctors.org Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:25 am    Post subject: Trip to Australia, is it possible? | 
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				PS Flying to the Canaries is a moderately challenging 
 adventure which will give you a good flavour of the 
 difficulties of getting permission to fly a Permit A/C 
 through. Non European country. It took me 5 1/2 months to 
 get permission! David
 
 On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 15:46:50 +0200
   Frans Veldman <frans(at)privatepilots.nl> wrote:
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 <frans(at)privatepilots.nl>
  
  Hi Friends,
  
  After our recent north cape trip Ilona and I are looking 
 fow a new
  adventure.
  
  Ilona and I always wanted to go to Australia and we are 
 now wondering if
  we could do that in our own Europa. We suddenly realised 
 that my son
  will graduate next year and now he is still living at 
 home and yet old
  enough to carry some responsibility to take care of our 
 house, webshop
  and animals, this might be a convenient moment to 
 undertake such a journey.
  
  We haven't been doing more yet than looking at the world 
 globe and
  seeing that technically it should be possible.
  
  Before putting some time in it and then discovering that 
 some countries
  would be unsolvable obstacles, I think it may be faster 
 to ask for info
  on this list. I remember having seen some references to 
 such a trip or
  the preparations for it, if this is correct it would be 
 very valuable to
  learn from it.
  
 First questions that come to mind are: What time of year 
 would be best
  for such a trip? I'm aware of the mosson-rain in some 
 countries, but is
  the whole period unsuitable for flying? What about the 
 middle-east and
  aziatic countries, is General Aviation possible? Do they 
 tolerate home
  built airplanes? How much bureaucrazy is involved and 
 how much time is
  needed to get the necessary permissions?
  
  Any info for this wild idea is welcome, either positive 
 or negative.
  
  Thanks,
 Frans
  
  
 Un/Subscription,
 Forums!
 Admin.
  
  
  
 
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