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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:46 am    Post subject: Strange days in South Africa Reply with quote

This is indeed off the list subject, but I thought that I would share with you a little bit of what has been a momentous day in South Africa, and for some indeed, in the world. Today over 100 of the worlds government leaders were not 20km from my house and we all, throughout the nation, and on African soil, paid tribute to “one of the greatest lights of our time”- Madiba, one of the very few African leaders who commands my respect and admiration. He was indeed a great man and his dying has reminded us of how much we owe him, and how close we came to the brink of anarchy in this country.

Besides today being a proud citizen of an infant democracy, and part of a nation that has inspired the world, I got to within 30 metres of President Barack Obama, another man I respect and admire. Admittedly, he was travelling on the opposite side of the highway and we were both going fast. I saw the cavalcade coming down the highway after Mandela's memorial service and realised that it was Obama when I saw the long limo and the US flags. I thought that he gave a really good speech (as did many South Africans) where he did not shirk from saying hard things, but also said them in a way that should have humbled the people they were directed at.

And I loved it that the crowd (being a very demographically representative crowd for SA) booed our corrupt, criminal moron of a president- in front of the world. We may make it after all..

Well, its been quite a day here and I bid thee adieu from a quietly settling continent, world citizens.

Good speed Tata Madiba..

Johannesburg Jay

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:43 pm    Post subject: Strange days in South Africa Reply with quote

Thanks much for sharing that.

Madiba was indeed "one of the greatest lights of our time".

The memory of Nelson Mandela and the reaction to his death is complex and mixed in the US. Some of us celebrate his life and achievement without reservation. Others, not so much. I'd guess that reactions in South Africa are even more complicated.

But I think all Americans might agree with you that booing one's President from time to time is a good sign.

Thanks again.

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This is indeed off the list subject, but I thought that I would share with you a little bit of what has been a momentous day in South Africa, and for some indeed, in the world. Today over 100 of the worlds government leaders were not 20km from my house and we all, throughout the nation, and on African soil, paid tribute to “one of the greatest lights of our time”- Madiba, one of the very few African leaders who commands my respect and admiration. He was indeed a great man and his dying has reminded us of how much we owe him, and how close we came to the brink of anarchy in this country.

Besides today being a proud citizen of an infant democracy, and part of a nation that has inspired the world, I got to within 30 metres of President Barack Obama, another man I respect and admire. Admittedly, he was travelling on the opposite side of the highway and we were both going fast. I saw the cavalcade coming down the highway after Mandela's memorial service and realised that it was Obama when I saw the long limo and the US flags. I thought that he gave a really good speech (as did many South Africans) where he did not shirk from saying hard things, but also said them in a way that should have humbled the people they were directed at.

And I loved it that the crowd (being a very demographically representative crowd for SA) booed our corrupt, criminal moron of a president- in front of the world. We may make it after all..

Well, its been quite a day here and I bid thee adieu from a quietly settling continent, world citizens.

Good speed Tata Madiba..

Johannesburg Jay

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:43 pm    Post subject: Strange days in South Africa Reply with quote

On 12/10/2013 1:41 PM, Jay Hyde wrote:

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This is indeed off the list subject, but I thought that I would share with you a little bit of what has been a momentous day in South Africa, and for some indeed, in the world. Today over 100 of the worlds government leaders were not 20km from my house and we all, throughout the nation, and on African soil, paid tribute to “one of the greatest lights of our time”- Madiba, one of the very few African leaders who commands my respect and admiration. He was indeed a great man and his dying has reminded us of how much we owe him, and how close we came to the brink of anarchy in this country.

Besides today being a proud citizen of an infant democracy, and part of a nation that has inspired the world, I got to within 30 metres of President Barack Obama, another man I respect and admire. Admittedly, he was travelling on the opposite side of the highway and we were both going fast. I saw the cavalcade coming down the highway after Mandela's memorial service and realised that it was Obama when I saw the long limo and the US flags. I thought that he gave a really good speech (as did many South Africans) where he did not shirk from saying hard things, but also said them in a way that should have humbled the people they were directed at.

And I loved it that the crowd (being a very demographically representative crowd for SA) booed our corrupt, criminal moron of a president- in front of the world. We may make it after all..

Well, its been quite a day here and I bid thee adieu from a quietly settling continent, world citizens.

Good speed Tata Madiba..

Johannesburg Jay

Thanks, Jay. It's always unfortunate when the good pass from us, but perhaps today's events will inspire all of us to move forward together, instead of pushing against one another. After all, most of us have the same goals for ourselves and our families; we just need to find ways to get there that we can agree on.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:52 pm    Post subject: Strange days in South Africa Reply with quote

<![endif]--> <![endif]--> President Barack Obama, another man I respect and admire. Admittedly, he was travelling on the opposite side of the highway and we were both going fast. I saw the cavalcade coming down the highway after Mandela's memorial service and realised that it was Obama when I saw the long limo and the US flags. I thought that he gave a really good speech (as did many South Africans) where he did not shirk from saying hard things, but also said them in a way that should have humbled the people they were directed at.
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I do have to say that I hope that the democracy in South Africa survives and prospers.

I , however strongly disagree with you on your perception of Barack Obama! The speech he gave at the Mandela Memorial was all about Obama not Mandela, as it should have been. Unless our Congress stops him he will have destroyed our great and wonderful country by the end of his second term in office.

You had your say, I countered it, now lets get back to airplane electrics.

Roger

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Strange days in South Africa Reply with quote

Most of us, I suspect, have more or less strong opinions on these subjects.
I suggest we leave them (including mine), and the discussion, for another list or the circle of friends.
Rumen

---- Roger & Jean <mrspudandcompany(at)verizon.net> wrote:

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President Barack Obama, another man I respect and admire. Admittedly, he was travelling on the opposite side of the highway and we were both going fast. I saw the cavalcade coming down the highway after Mandela's memorial service and realised that it was Obama when I saw the long limo and the US flags. I thought that he gave a really good speech (as did many South Africans) where he did not shirk from saying hard things, but also said them in a way that should have humbled the people they were directed at.

I do have to say that I hope that the democracy in South Africa survives and prospers.

I , however strongly disagree with you on your perception of Barack Obama! The speech he gave at the Mandela Memorial was all about Obama not Mandela, as it should have been. Unless our Congress stops him he will have destroyed our great and wonderful country by the end of his second term in office.

You had your say, I countered it, now lets get back to airplane electrics.

Roger

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Strange days in South Africa Reply with quote

Well put Roger


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On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 5:11 PM, Roger & Jean <mrspudandcompany(at)verizon.net> wrote:

President Barack Obama, another man I respect and admire. Admittedly, he was travelling on the opposite side of the highway and we were both going fast. I saw the cavalcade coming down the highway after Mandela's memorial service and realised that it was Obama when I saw the long limo and the US flags. I thought that he gave a really good speech (as did many South Africans) where he did not shirk from saying hard things, but also said them in a way that should have humbled the people they were directed at.
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I do have to say that I hope that the democracy in South Africa survives and prospers.
 
I , however strongly disagree with you on your perception of Barack Obama! The speech he gave at the Mandela Memorial was all about Obama not Mandela, as it should have been. Unless our Congress stops him he will have destroyed our great and wonderful country by the end of his second term in office.

You had your say, I countered it, now lets get back to airplane electrics.

Roger

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