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				 Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:14 pm    Post subject: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM | 
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				4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast
  
  
 Rain date: Rain date?  We don't need no stinkin' rain date; the weather's gonna be fine.
  
 Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so officially we're looking for you at 10:00am.  We will feed you at noon.
  
 Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W  Identifier: 12VA  Hop-Along Field  Clifton Forge, VA
  
 Runway:  2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition.  No approach obstacles (power lines at the road are buried; info in AirNav regarding obstrucutions is not correct).  Elevation 1060 MSL.  Preferred landing direction is using RWY 32 (slightly uphill).  Left hand traffic.  Watch for turkey buzzards; they live around here, raise large families, fly for food, and have little regard for you!  Should you somehow survive your approach and landing, park at the far end by the hangar.  BYO tiedowns if desired.  
  
 Note: your landing technique may be judged by obnoxious, opinionated persons who landed ahead of you.  If you can dish it out but can't take it, we suggest you get here before "they" do.  That said, we suggest swallowing your pride and executing a go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with good braking action by abeam the windsock; it's a long plunge into the river if you overshoot and there is no overrun area.  There's never been a landing mishap at Stormy's place; don't be the first.  
  
 Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime.  Give this number to all the telemarketers you know; I'm lonely.  Insurance agents, too.
  
 Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz
  
 Menu:  BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas, bottled water, light desserts.
  
 Cost: Your smile.  This is our treat.  You may bring a dish (not a reference to your spousal unit or girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our buffet, but it is not expected.  
  
 Items to bring:  
  
 ~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this, so we have accumulated lots of them, but you may bring extras if you have them.  The bigger your butt, the bigger the tube you need.  Tonnage must equal displacement, Archimedes.  (Tubing looks iffy now due to recent drought.)  
  
 ~Lawn chairs if you like to sit.  Sun block.  Bug-off.  Beach towel. Frisbee.  Camera.
  
 ~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants.  (Hey, sure as I'm sittin' here, one of you Boy Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into something they shouldn't touch.) 
  
 ~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while swimming/fishing/tubing.  While none are sharp, the river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery.  Fishing tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as desired, but a VA fishing license is de rigeur.
  
 ~Snake repellent & antivenom.
  
 That last one was a joke.  If you should happen to see a long, slithery, fast-swimming poisonous snake, hey, we suggest you vacate the river and run like hell.  We lose a guest or two every year to those pesky varmints; why become a statistic?  That reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good idea... for a dry and comfortable flight home after swimming, that is.  If you forget this little detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you get home.
  
 ~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe pitching.
  
 ~Cigars of choice, if you partake.  Disparaging remarks, as appropriate, are optional if you don't.
  
 Schedule:  Informal.  Really loose.  (Ask anyone who's been here before.)  Around 1:30 we can mosey to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a 90 minute float trip if it's deep enough.  Either way, we end up just a short mosey from the runway.  Partaking of all activities and launching for home by 1600 is very doable.  You are welcome to stay as late as daylight and your schedule allows.  Around 10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so that our company can go home.  In case you hadn't noticed, mountain folks "mosey" alot.  It's slower than walking, but more relaxing.
  
 For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing, there is always a group that lounges up at the house and waits for the adventurers to return.  You won't be lonely.  You may be taunted, just a little, but you'll get over it, you wussies.
  
 And for those who can't make it this year, there's always 2007, and don't forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already sold out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the island and it's all close together.  Great time in store there!
  
 I think that about covers it.  We're expecting at least 15 planes based on the RSVP's so far, and we will probably have more.  Last year we made the local paper, front page, in color, top of the fold (slow news day).  Please remember to comb your hair, act respectable and speak kindly of your host if interviewed.  Don't dress like a terrorist and don't fly like a fool.  Maybe I'd better put together a press kit... 
  
 I don't think there's more I need to say unless we have a last minute cancellation for wx.  Sure looking forward to seeing you all    My wife is handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy (with greatly appreciated help from my SnF right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my back deck and installing a new gazebo, neither of which will likely be finished in time for this event.  Oh, well; that's life on the farm.  I'm sure it'll all work out.  God is good.
  
 See you Saturday!
  
 -Stormy
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				 Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM | 
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				o stormy-one: can you give driving instrux to this
 ground-bound hillbilly? As you may have heard (I hope
 not), I'm temporarily unairworthy, however,
 motorcycling in wva this wkend and may be able to drop
 by sat. for vittles. can get to clifton forge ok, but
 then whut? thx bud, RenoRed.
 
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  4th Annual Stormy's Fly-In BBQ and River Blast
   
   
  Rain date: Rain date?  We don't need no stinkin'
  rain date; the weather's gonna be fine.
   
  Time: arrivals anytime Saturday morning; Unicomm
  monitored 1000-1200 EDT, so officially we're looking
  for you at 10:00am.  We will feed you at noon.
   
  Location: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W  Identifier: 12VA 
  Hop-Along Field  Clifton Forge, VA
   
  Runway:  2100 feet x 50 feet turf, good condition. 
  No approach obstacles (power lines at the road are
  buried; info in AirNav regarding obstrucutions is
  not correct).  Elevation 1060 MSL.  Preferred
  landing direction is using RWY 32 (slightly uphill).
   Left hand traffic.  Watch for turkey buzzards; they
  live around here, raise large families, fly for
  food, and have little regard for you!  Should you
  somehow survive your approach and landing, park at
  the far end by the hangar.  BYO tiedowns if desired.
   
   
  Note: your landing technique may be judged by
  obnoxious, opinionated persons who landed ahead of
  you.  If you can dish it out but can't take it, we
  suggest you get here before "they" do.  That said,
  we suggest swallowing your pride and executing a
  go-around if your mains are not firmly planted with
  good braking action by abeam the windsock; it's a
  long plunge into the river if you overshoot and
  there is no overrun area.  There's never been a
  landing mishap at Stormy's place; don't be the
  first.  
   
  Contact info: Stormy's cell: 540-969-6466 anytime. 
  Give this number to all the telemarketers you know;
  I'm lonely.  Insurance agents, too.
   
  Unicomm frequency: 122.85 MHz
   
  Menu:  BBQ, chips, slaw, deviled eggs, sodas,
  bottled water, light desserts.
   
  Cost: Your smile.  This is our treat.  You may bring
  a dish (not a reference to your spousal unit or
  girlfriend) to share if you wish, to round out our
  buffet, but it is not expected.  
   
  Items to bring:  
   
  ~truck inner tubes; this is our 4th year doing this,
  so we have accumulated lots of them, but you may
  bring extras if you have them.  The bigger your
  butt, the bigger the tube you need.  Tonnage must
  equal displacement, Archimedes.  (Tubing looks iffy
  now due to recent drought.)  
   
  ~Lawn chairs if you like to sit.  Sun block. 
  Bug-off.  Beach towel. Frisbee.  Camera.
   
  ~Field Guide to Poison Ivy and other Itchy Plants. 
  (Hey, sure as I'm sittin' here, one of you Boy
  Scouts is gonna wander off the trail and get into
  something they shouldn't touch.) 
   
  ~River shoes/sandals, to protect feet while
  swimming/fishing/tubing.  While none are sharp, the
  river is chock full of rocks, most very slippery. 
  Fishing tackle (smallmouth, perch, catfish) as
  desired, but a VA fishing license is de rigeur.
   
  ~Snake repellent & antivenom.
   
  That last one was a joke.  If you should happen to
  see a long, slithery, fast-swimming poisonous snake,
  hey, we suggest you vacate the river and run like
  hell.  We lose a guest or two every year to those
  pesky varmints; why become a statistic?  That
  reminds me; a change of underwear might be a good
  idea... for a dry and comfortable flight home after
  swimming, that is.  If you forget this little
  detail, there's always Gold Bond and Cruex when you
  get home.
   
  ~Your favorite lucky shirt, etc, for horseshoe
  pitching.
   
  ~Cigars of choice, if you partake.  Disparaging
  remarks, as appropriate, are optional if you don't.
   
  Schedule:  Informal.  Really loose.  (Ask anyone
  who's been here before.)  Around 1:30 we can mosey
  to the river, for swimming if it's shallow, and a 90
  minute float trip if it's deep enough.  Either way,
  we end up just a short mosey from the runway. 
  Partaking of all activities and launching for home
  by 1600 is very doable.  You are welcome to stay as
  late as daylight and your schedule allows.  Around
  10 pm, we hillbillies typically mosey on to bed so
  that our company can go home.  In case you hadn't
  noticed, mountain folks "mosey" alot.  It's slower
  than walking, but more relaxing.
   
  For those who choose not to do the waterfront thing,
  there is always a group that lounges up at the house
  and waits for the adventurers to return.  You won't
  be lonely.  You may be taunted, just a little, but
  you'll get over it, you wussies.
   
  And for those who can't make it this year, there's
  always 2007, and don't forget the 2006 SERV Ocracoke
  Outing on Labor Day Weekend: one B&B already sold
  out, but there's plenty of lodging available on the
  island and it's all close together.  Great time in
  store there!
   
  I think that about covers it.  We're expecting at
  least 15 planes based on the RSVP's so far, and we
  will probably have more.  Last year we made the
  local paper, front page, in color, top of the fold
  (slow news day).  Please remember to comb your hair,
  act respectable and speak kindly of your host if
  interviewed.  Don't dress like a terrorist and don't
  fly like a fool.  Maybe I'd better put together a
  press kit... 
   
  I don't think there's more I need to say unless we
  have a last minute cancellation for wx.  Sure
  looking forward to seeing you all    My wife is
  handling all the lunch logistics; I've been busy
  (with greatly appreciated help from my SnF
  right-seater, "Fatboy" Dave Miller) replacing my
  back deck and installing a new gazebo, neither of
  which will likely be finished in time for this
  event.  Oh, well; that's life on the farm.  I'm sure
  it'll all work out.  God is good.
   
  See you Saturday!
   
  -Stormy
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:38 am    Post subject: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM | 
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				Hope you can make it!
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:38 am    Post subject: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM | 
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				Stormy is there an error in your NOTAM?  
 
 Air Nav shows:
         37-47-17.0000N / 079-46-04.0000W
       37-47.283333N / 079-46.066667W 
 Stormy's NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W  
 
 My GPS shows:  37-47.283N / 79-46.055W
 
 What's up Doc?
 
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		Dale Ensing
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM | 
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				AOPA Flight Planner show Hop Along at
 N37' 47.3    W79'46.1
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:55 am    Post subject: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM | 
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				Looks like we got him Dale.
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:14 pm    Post subject: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM | 
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				Here's what's up:
  
 AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds.
 The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered that in ATP school).
 The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet).
  
 Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint accuracy the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other end of the runway from where I took the original fix for the FAA.  Keep in mind that a minute of lattitude is only 6000 feet.  These values are all so close, I'd bet they're all somewhere on my property.
  
 If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes right, we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for visually impaired pilots,
 1-800-IM BLIND.  Or 122.85 would work, too  
  
 Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here!
  
 -Stormy
  
 We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise missile over here.
  
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM | 
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				Let's just dead-reckon & see how many make it!
 
 Randy Utsey
 Cappy's GIB (what do I know?)
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM | 
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				Stormy, your email read 37-42.28 (thats forty TWO.2 .  Airnav states
 37-47.28.  That difference is 5 min. of latitude which is 30,000 ft
 =5.68miles.  Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure someone will).
 
 What did we do before GPS?  Was it something like looking at maps, plotting
 courses, converting true course to magnetic course, winds, checkpoints?
 What a novel idea!
 
 Mike
 
                                                                                                                                               
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 Here's what's up:
 
 AirNav's top numbers are degrees-minutes-seconds.
 The next line is degrees-minutes.decimal minutes. (I thought they covered
 that in ATP school).
 The AOPA numbers are evidently rounded-off versions of the deg-min.decimal
 min, to the nearest tenth of a minute (600 feet).
 
 Cappy, your GPS might have had a bit of PDOP affecting the waypoint
 accuracy the moment you stored the waypoint, or else you were at the other
 end of the runway from where I took the original fix for the FAA.  Keep in
 mind that a minute of lattitude is only 6000 feet.  These values are all so
 close, I'd bet they're all somewhere on my property.
 
 If you can't see us by the time you get at least the degrees and minutes
 right, we'll talk you in the last 600 feet on the special hotline for
 visually impaired pilots,
 1-800-IM BLIND.  Or 122.85 would work, too  
 
 Now, quit your bitchin' and get on up here!
 
 -Stormy
 
 We'd be more precise about our location, but someone might send a cruise
 missile over here.
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:33 pm    Post subject: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM | 
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				Stormy I know all that.  But your NOTAM shows: 37-42.28N / 079-46.07W  
 
 37-42 not 37-47.  I agree all the rest after what should be 47 is all BS.
 
 How is the WX looking.
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM | 
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				Well that does it.  I'm getting a trip tick from AAA and driving!
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:15 pm    Post subject: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM | 
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				What did we do before GPS?  Was it something like looking at maps, plotting
 courses, converting true course to magnetic course, winds, checkpoints?
 What a novel idea!
 
 Yaa Mike, that is why I am collecting E6Bs to go along with my collection of
 slide rules!
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: Stormy's Arrival NOTAM | 
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				Hey, yeah, it's on the sectional and all...
  
 Naw, I admit it, I goofed and then didn't see what you were pointing out plain as day.
  
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