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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:13 pm    Post subject: Lee KR-2 System Architecture Reply with quote

Lectric Bob,

You said:

<<Okay, I've got you drawing. Let me pray over it
for a few days . . .>>

Are you still praying, or did you decide to exercise my design of using z14
for the engine (electrionic ignition, fuel pumps alternators and batteries)
and z13 (main bus and e-bus) for everything else?

Regards,
Bob Lee
N52BL KR2
Suwanee, GA USA
92% done only 67% to go!


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:22 pm    Post subject: Lee KR-2 System Architecture Reply with quote

At 03:59 PM 7/25/2009, you wrote:
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Lectric Bob,

You said:

<<Okay, I've got you drawing. Let me pray over it
for a few days . . .>>

Are you still praying, or did you decide to exercise my design of using z14
for the engine (electrionic ignition, fuel pumps alternators and batteries)
and z13 (main bus and e-bus) for everything else?

I've got a plan. The kids are down for the weekend
and my grandson is looking for a lot of grandpa-time.
But I'll do a system for Corvair engines. It will
become Z-9.


Bob . . .

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Lee KR-2 System Architecture Reply with quote

I have just bought Bob Lee's Kr2 project and am trying to gather any info that may pertain to the project. Do you have nay more posts or information about the electronics he used?
Thanks
Bob R
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:48 am    Post subject: Lee KR-2 System Architecture Reply with quote

Bob, If you know Bob Lee's username on the Matronics Aeroelectric Connection forum you could do a search and find all his posts. That would be one way to garner information about your new project. Congratulations and be sure to buy the latest revision of Bob N's book. It will become your best source of information as you craft the electrical architecture of your KR. Good luck and happy building.

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Bob R
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:53 am    Post subject: Lee KR-2 System Architecture Reply with quote

At 20:09 2014-10-13, you wrote:
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I have just bought Bob Lee's Kr2 project and am trying to gather any
info that may pertain to the project. Do you have nay more posts or
information about the electronics he used?

When you say project . . . what stage of
completion? Are any of the electrical
system appliances operable either airborne
or on the ground?

I don't recall any conversations with Mr. Lee
here on the List. Depending on how many
'hard' decisions are already in place, you
might be well advices to pull out all the
'fuzzy' stuff and start over.

Is this your first project or do you have
some lessons-learned to draw on?
Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Lee KR-2 System Architecture Reply with quote

The project is pretty well on it's way. As far as hard decisions I think Bob went to great lengths with the panel and also talked somewhere about the electrical as far as flight instruments goes as well. Here is a link to some pics and information about the current state of affairs with the project.
I have not seen it in person and likely will not until I can pick it up next spring.

http://www.krnet.org/krs/boblee/

Please go have a look and I am expecting some pictures of the back of the panel at some point so I can see what is going on there.
The instrument on the right (beside the Loran) is a Rocky Mountain Instruments micro monitor for quiet a number of functions

I have worked on a few projects but not much electrical, I have a Preceptor Ultra Pup that I am learning about some aspects as I maintain it.
Thanks for posting back on my post guys.
Bob R


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Lee KR-2 System Architecture Reply with quote

Also see the first post as that is what I responded to

Lee KR-2 System Architecture

Maybe he sent you something at one time.. looks like back in 2009
Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:48 am    Post subject: Lee KR-2 System Architecture Reply with quote

At 22:42 2014-10-17, you wrote:
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Also see the first post as that is what I responded to

Lee KR-2 System Architecture

Maybe he sent you something at one time.. looks like back in 2009
Thanks
Bob R


Did a data dump on my email archives for the List
and found a series of postings from/to Bob Lee
dating back to 2006. I also found a copy of his
web-page dissertation on electrical system planning.
I've posted them here.

http://tinyurl.com/n7zk5wh

It had been some time since we discussed his project
and I'd forgotten the extent of our conversations.

Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:29 am    Post subject: Re: Lee KR-2 System Architecture Reply with quote

Thanks so much Bob
I will go have a look at that now.
Bob R


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: Lee KR-2 System Architecture Reply with quote

Hi Bob
just read through the emails quickly but I get the feeling and also had the feeling looking at the panel itself on the link I provided earlier that this might be over complicated and quite experimental in the sense of what I will be using the airplane for.
I am guessing that Bob has the book and that I will get that along with other documentation for the project when I pick it up.
I did try to go to the links on you sire but for some reason could not access the downloadable pdfs
I will try again, and also the links to Bob's architecture are gone because his site is no longer active. If you have copies and could send to me that would be interesting reading for me.
I thank you for your help with understanding this and I think your first suggestion of starting over may be the ticket. I just feel sticking as close to the KISS principle is often a good decision. I will have enough to do without complicating my flight demands .
Thanks Again
Bob R


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:05 am    Post subject: Lee KR-2 System Architecture Reply with quote

At 10:20 2014-10-18, you wrote:
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Hi Bob
just read through the emails quickly but I get the feeling and
also had the feeling looking at the panel itself on the link I
provided earlier that this might be over complicated and quite
experimental in the sense of what I will be using the airplane for.

I found the pictures you cited earlier. Clearly, this airplane
has been fitted with WWWWAAaaayyy too much hardware for
the missions on which it's likely to be flown.

I remember when Ken Rand first debuted the KR series airplanes.
Very impressive cost/performance ratios! But just as Burt
Rutan would roll his eyes at the notion of putting an IO320
engine, 60A electrical system with auto pilot in a LongEze,
I'm sure Ken would have been similarly distressed to
see how this example of his vision was being 'expanded'.

The instrumentation package is pretty dated. You might
spend as many dollars getting all the existing hardware
flight worthy as it costs to replace them with more
modern, lighter, smaller and simpler components.

This can be and should be a simple, practical, fun machine
with few CTCTOF factors. Let's talk about your needs
and plans here on the List . . . this is a great opportunity
for learning for all of us.
Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:22 am    Post subject: Lee KR-2 System Architecture Reply with quote

At 10:20 2014-10-18, you wrote:


Hi Bob
just read through the emails quickly but I get the feeling and also
had the feeling looking at the panel itself on the link I provided
earlier that this might be over complicated and quite experimental in
the sense of what I will be using the airplane for.

Yeah . . . he speaks to Figure Z-14 which is an
exceedingly capable system tailored for airplanes
MUCH larger than a IMC KR-2. I recall that
conversation a bit now . . . I tried to get him
to down-size.

I am guessing that Bob has the book and that I will get that along
with other documentation for the project when I pick it up.

Perhaps you need the book now. Understand you're
getting the airplane next spring. Now is the time
to start boning up on the options.

I did try to go to the links on you sire but for some reason could
not access the downloadable pdfs
Don't understand this. The .pdf file is the compilation
of e-mails I found. The .htm file is a copy of a page
from his website found on the WayBack machine . . .
an organization that endeavors to take periodic 'snapshots'
of websites and preserve them. The page you cited from
Bob's website happened to be one of those captures on
the WayBack servers.

I just checked both links at

http://www.aeroelectric.com/Bob_Lee/

and they're working . . .
I will try again, and also the links to Bob's architecture are gone
because his site is no longer active. If you have copies and could
send to me that would be interesting reading for me.

If you have any specific links to old pages, you
can try searching for them at http://archive.org/web/

I thank you for your help with understanding this and I think your
first suggestion of starting over may be the ticket. I just feel
sticking as close to the KISS principle is often a good decision. I
will have enough to do without complicating my flight demands .
Thanks Again
Bob R


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