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As you might recall, I had a bone spur removed from one of my feet. The healing process has gone a bit better than the Doc thought it should. I am not able to do any extended walking, but within reason, things are fine.
I realize that most of you poor souls are experiencing Global warming at its best. Apparently there isn't a large enough population here where I live to adversely affect the climate, so we are having our usual nice two weeks or so of great weather here in the West. Today was 61 degrees with no wind. The wife is out of town for the weekend, so there was no one to tell me that I shouldn't fly yet. You should look at today's video and be reassured that even your shitty weather will also pass. I have found that the only thing that stays the same is -every thing changes.
The Virb camera that I have recently bought seemed a bit more difficult to get good smooth video than the Drift that I had been using. The Virb seems to have a bit clearer picture, and I do like the track and speed feature on it as well. So I want to make it my main camera. I tried it on the wing, and I have to hold it at a certain speed to keep the shake and jello out of it. I put it back on the nose, and had the same problem. The speed that the video was the least shaky at, was just a bit too slow for comfortable "yanking and banking". The next best speed was full throttle. Also not what I really wanted.
Having nothing to occupy my time these last few weeks other than ice packs and TV, I formed the thought that the bar of Alum that I had fixed to fit behind the pitot tube holder and the nose pf the pod, might be contributing to the shakes. So this morning I dug out my virb box and got one of the sticky pads that they had for a helmet mount. I stuck it on the nose pod, fixed up a safety wire just in case, and tried my best to wait the recommended 24 hours for the base to be "firmly" attached. Well, I did my best, but if I was ever going to have "patients", I would have been a Doctor. I finally couldn't stand it any longer and rolled the plane out.Â
I could have stuck it out of sight under the nose pod, if I had thought of it before, but I don't mind it up on top, although I do think it is raising hell with my "yarn" slip indicator.Â
The video is the most steady through out the full throttle range that I have found yet, and of course I had a great time. Hang in there guys, better times are coming.Â
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Hi Larry,
welcome back. Glad that your operation is sorting itself out more quickly than expected. Your camera mount seems perfect. It even dealt with the vibration when you were on the ground. Wx in the UK has been pretty good. In the south we have had not winter yet although Scotland and the North of England have had some snow. Nothing that persisted beyond a couple of days. Overcast and rain today but we have had several long periods of nil wind and good flying weather with a large high pressure area over us.
No flying for me any more I am afraid although i am trying to convince myself that my bank book would stand a half hour flight in a Spitfire. I flew a Mustang for an hour in Kissimmee many years ago and I have managed to get into a couple of T6`s and a couple of jets over the years and I would dearly love to add the Spitfire. Heigh Ho. Pat
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Then go for it Pat. If it dosnt put you in the soup kitchen then it will be worth every penny,I lost two good friends on a training flight about 3 weeks ago. The instructor on that flight tought me to fly over 20 years ago. Jack was 86 years young had flown most things and had many aviation awards for his years of instruction and dedication to aviation,his pilots license was 75 years old at the time of the accident, . His teachings included aviation is fun, go have safe fun .The student on that flight was a senior police officer ,he loved to fly . I had taken him for a flight in the Kolb about 3 weeks before the accident ,he loved it. Who could not like the way a Kolb flys ?
Not trying to be morbid , just saying do it while you are able, none of us know what is around the corner , So if you have the means go do it. I expect a debrief.
Regards
Downunder
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On Monday, 16 February 2015 11:45 PM, Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
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welcome back. Glad that your operation is sorting itself out more quickly than expected. Your camera mount seems perfect. It even dealt with the vibration when you were on the ground. Wx in the UK has been pretty good. In the south we have had not winter yet although Scotland and the North of England have had some snow. Nothing that persisted beyond a couple of days. Overcast and rain today but we have had several long periods of nil wind and good flying weather with a large high pressure area over us.
No flying for me any more I am afraid although i am trying to convince myself that my bank book would stand a half hour flight in a Spitfire. I flew a Mustang for an hour in Kissimmee many years ago and I have managed to get into a couple of T6`s and a couple of jets over the years and I would dearly love to add the Spitfire. Heigh Ho. Pat
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Larry,
Nice video, and thanks for giving us that live in winter something to look forward to.
It is interesting that the most stable spot you have found is at the far forward point of the nose. One would think that the long moment arms on the airframe would be the most sensitive to aircraft vibrations, wing tips, tail, and nose, while the closer you got to the center of mass, the more stable it would be.Â
You said that the camera was pointed down at about 13 degrees. Curious, 13 degrees from what? Level flight, ground stance, fuselage? Whatever it is, it worked pretty well.
Single digits temperature and strong gusty winds in central ND today, so just left with watching and dreaming.
Keep them coming!
Stuart
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Subject: new camera mount- version 3
As you might recall, I had a bone spur removed from one of my feet. The healing process has gone a bit better than the Doc thought it should. I am not able to do any extended walking, but within reason, things are fine.
I realize that most of you poor souls are experiencing Global warming at its best. Apparently there isn't a large enough population here where I live to adversely affect the climate, so we are having our usual nice two weeks or so of great weather here in the West. Today was 61 degrees with no wind. The wife is out of town for the weekend, so there was no one to tell me that I shouldn't fly yet. You should look at today's video and be reassured that even your shitty weather will also pass. I have found that the only thing that stays the same is -every thing changes.
The Virb camera that I have recently bought seemed a bit more difficult to get good smooth video than the Drift that I had been using. The Virb seems to have a bit clearer picture, and I do like the track and speed feature on it as well. So I want to make it my main camera. I tried it on the wing, and I have to hold it at a certain speed to keep the shake and jello out of it. I put it back on the nose, and had the same problem. The speed that the video was the least shaky at, was just a bit too slow for comfortable "yanking and banking". The next best speed was full throttle. Also not what I really wanted.
Having nothing to occupy my time these last few weeks other than ice packs and TV, I formed the thought that the bar of Alum that I had fixed to fit behind the pitot tube holder and the nose pf the pod, might be contributing to the shakes. So this morning I dug out my virb box and got one of the sticky pads that they had for a helmet mount. I stuck it on the nose pod, fixed up a safety wire just in case, and tried my best to wait the recommended 24 hours for the base to be "firmly" attached. Well, I did my best, but if I was ever going to have "patients", I would have been a Doctor. I finally couldn't stand it any longer and rolled the plane out.
I could have stuck it out of sight under the nose pod, if I had thought of it before, but I don't mind it up on top, although I do think it is raising hell with my "yarn" slip indicator.
The video is the most steady through out the full throttle range that I have found yet, and of course I had a great time. Hang in there guys, better times are coming.
https://vimeo.com/119720660 password- owyheeflyer
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<<,I lost two good friends on a training flight about 3 weeks ago>> That is really rough. Commiserations. I lost two friends as well, many years ago. I had just started gliding, probably not solo. A friend who joined the club with me was with an instructor practicing `cable breaks`. If you have no gliding experience that is the equivalent of engine failure on take off. The last thing anyone heard was the instructor saying `Now, safety above all things`. The glider took off and at around 400ft the instructor disconnected the cable. The runway was a mile and a quarter and used by Stirling and Horsa glider combination during the war so the pilot had only to put his nose down, maintain speed and land. He elected to return to the launch point where we expected him to do a down wind landing as there was plenty of room. At around 100feet he tried to turn back into wind. Didn`t get his bank steep enough and his inside wing stalled and he spun in. Killed instantly. The instructor died a couple of days later. Cause of the accident was never established. we assumed that the P2 froze on the controls and the instructor could not over ride him. Very sad and made worse as it was Boxing Day.
Thanks for the urging to have a go at the Spitfire flight. I must plan a campaign and start leaving posts encouraging me to to fly around the house.
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Then go for it Pat. If it dosnt put you in the soup kitchen then it will be worth every penny,I lost two good friends on a training flight about 3 weeks ago. The instructor on that flight tought me to fly over 20 years ago. Jack was 86 years young had flown most things and had many aviation awards for his years of instruction and dedication to aviation,his pilots license was 75 years old at the time of the accident, . His teachings included aviation is fun, go have safe fun .The student on that flight was a senior police officer ,he loved to fly .. I had taken him for a flight in the Kolb about 3 weeks before the accident ,he loved it. Who could not like the way a Kolb flys ?
Not trying to be morbid , just saying do it while you are able, none of us know what is around the corner , So if you have the means go do it. I expect a debrief.
Regards
Downunder
MK111c and not flying enough
On Monday, 16 February 2015 11:45 PM, Patrick Ladd <patrickjladd(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
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welcome back. Glad that your operation is sorting itself out more quickly than expected. Your camera mount seems perfect. It even dealt with the vibration when you were on the ground. Wx in the UK has been pretty good. In the south we have had not winter yet although Scotland and the North of England have had some snow. Nothing that persisted beyond a couple of days. Overcast and rain today but we have had several long periods of nil wind and good flying weather with a large high pressure area over us.
No flying for me any more I am afraid although i am trying to convince myself that my bank book would stand a half hour flight in a Spitfire. I flew a Mustang for an hour in Kissimmee many years ago and I have managed to get into a couple of T6`s and a couple of jets over the years and I would dearly love to add the Spitfire. Heigh Ho. Pat
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On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Stuart Harner <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net (stuart(at)harnerfarm.net)> wrote:
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Nice video, and thanks for giving us that live in winter something to look forward to.
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It is interesting that the most stable spot you have found is at the far forward point of the nose. One would think that the long moment arms on the airframe would be the most sensitive to aircraft vibrations, wing tips, tail, and nose, while the closer you got to the center of mass, the more stable it would be.Â
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Pat - go for it, ole friend! I’ll be right behind you, jealous as hellFair winds,
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welcome back. Glad that your operation is sorting itself out more quickly than expected. Your camera mount seems perfect. It even dealt with the vibration when you were on the ground. Wx in the UK has been pretty good. In the south we have had not winter yet although Scotland and the North of England have had some snow. Nothing that persisted beyond a couple of days. Overcast and rain today but we have had several long periods of nil wind and good flying weather with a large high pressure area over us.
No flying for me any more I am afraid although i am trying to convince myself that my bank book would stand a half hour flight in a Spitfire. I flew a Mustang for an hour in Kissimmee many years ago and I have managed to get into a couple of T6`s and a couple of jets over the years and I would dearly love to add the Spitfire. Heigh Ho. Pat
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Again great Video. The mount looks great. I need to start working on narration and adding music. It gives your videos a professional touch.
My drift has those adhesive mounts I have used them on my Kayak a few times this winter. They work well on low vibration things. On my Kolb I found that a layer of duck tape between that two parts of their quick mount keeps the camera from bouncing around in flight. I personally like the effect of seeing part of the plane in the video. The problem has been finding a place where I can mount the camera pointing forward and not filling half the video with airplane. The lens has a real wide angle.
I have a heel spur. I have so far been able to put off the problem with a different foot bed in me shoesÂ
Rick Neilsen
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On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com (lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]As you might recall, I had a bone spur removed from one of my feet. The healing process has gone a bit better than the Doc thought it should. I am not able to do any extended walking, but within reason, things are fine.
I realize that most of you poor souls are experiencing Global warming at its best. Apparently there isn't a large enough population here where I live to adversely affect the climate, so we are having our usual nice two weeks or so of great weather here in the West. Today was 61 degrees with no wind. The wife is out of town for the weekend, so there was no one to tell me that I shouldn't fly yet. You should look at today's video and be reassured that even your shitty weather will also pass. I have found that the only thing that stays the same is -every thing changes.
The Virb camera that I have recently bought seemed a bit more difficult to get good smooth video than the Drift that I had been using. The Virb seems to have a bit clearer picture, and I do like the track and speed feature on it as well. So I want to make it my main camera. I tried it on the wing, and I have to hold it at a certain speed to keep the shake and jello out of it. I put it back on the nose, and had the same problem. The speed that the video was the least shaky at, was just a bit too slow for comfortable "yanking and banking". The next best speed was full throttle. Also not what I really wanted.
Having nothing to occupy my time these last few weeks other than ice packs and TV, I formed the thought that the bar of Alum that I had fixed to fit behind the pitot tube holder and the nose pf the pod, might be contributing to the shakes. So this morning I dug out my virb box and got one of the sticky pads that they had for a helmet mount. I stuck it on the nose pod, fixed up a safety wire just in case, and tried my best to wait the recommended 24 hours for the base to be "firmly" attached. Well, I did my best, but if I was ever going to have "patients", I would have been a Doctor. I finally couldn't stand it any longer and rolled the plane out.Â
I could have stuck it out of sight under the nose pod, if I had thought of it before, but I don't mind it up on top, although I do think it is raising hell with my "yarn" slip indicator.Â
The video is the most steady through out the full throttle range that I have found yet, and of course I had a great time. Hang in there guys, better times are coming.Â
https://vimeo.com/119720660Â Â password- Â Â owyheeflyer
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Rick, The problem with having some of the plane in the video is that there is really nowhere that you can put it far enough back to do that other than on the wing, that doesn't rattle and roll. The drift has a ?tripod screw" in the bottom that allows one to utilize shorter connection links. I had some success with earlier cameras with drilling a hole in the lexan windshield and mounting it there. That left most of the nose in the picture, and I kind of liked that, but each camera is different in the way that it handles harmonic vibration. The drift is pretty good, but its length will require a rather long arm, and will thus intensify the vibration. You can always try. What do you have to loose, after all you only have to fly.
The bone spur in my foot was about 3/4 inch long and it was on the facing part of my heel. When I stepped down it was digging into the pad that covers the bottom of your foot. A shot of cortizone would take care of it for a couple of months, but it was still digging a groove in the pad. I do a fair amount of walking in the summer and fall, so I decided to get rid of it during the slack time of the winter. I can only take two cortizone shots at the most any way. This from experience. You actually spend two weeks on crutches, and then it is just a bit weak for a while. The Dr says "all discomfort goes away at 4 months, just like clockwork." I actually had little in the way of pain. They gave me a bottle of pain pills, and I took three, and actually needed none.Â
Looking forward to some of your videos.
Larry
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com (neilsenrm(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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Again great Video. The mount looks great. I need to start working on narration and adding music. It gives your videos a professional touch.
My drift has those adhesive mounts I have used them on my Kayak a few times this winter. They work well on low vibration things. On my Kolb I found that a layer of duck tape between that two parts of their quick mount keeps the camera from bouncing around in flight. I personally like the effect of seeing part of the plane in the video. The problem has been finding a place where I can mount the camera pointing forward and not filling half the video with airplane. The lens has a real wide angle.
I have a heel spur. I have so far been able to put off the problem with a different foot bed in me shoesÂ
Rick Neilsen
Redive VW powered MKIIIC Â
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com (lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | As you might recall, I had a bone spur removed from one of my feet. The healing process has gone a bit better than the Doc thought it should. I am not able to do any extended walking, but within reason, things are fine.
I realize that most of you poor souls are experiencing Global warming at its best. Apparently there isn't a large enough population here where I live to adversely affect the climate, so we are having our usual nice two weeks or so of great weather here in the West. Today was 61 degrees with no wind. The wife is out of town for the weekend, so there was no one to tell me that I shouldn't fly yet. You should look at today's video and be reassured that even your shitty weather will also pass. I have found that the only thing that stays the same is -every thing changes.
The Virb camera that I have recently bought seemed a bit more difficult to get good smooth video than the Drift that I had been using. The Virb seems to have a bit clearer picture, and I do like the track and speed feature on it as well. So I want to make it my main camera. I tried it on the wing, and I have to hold it at a certain speed to keep the shake and jello out of it. I put it back on the nose, and had the same problem. The speed that the video was the least shaky at, was just a bit too slow for comfortable "yanking and banking". The next best speed was full throttle. Also not what I really wanted.
Having nothing to occupy my time these last few weeks other than ice packs and TV, I formed the thought that the bar of Alum that I had fixed to fit behind the pitot tube holder and the nose pf the pod, might be contributing to the shakes. So this morning I dug out my virb box and got one of the sticky pads that they had for a helmet mount. I stuck it on the nose pod, fixed up a safety wire just in case, and tried my best to wait the recommended 24 hours for the base to be "firmly" attached. Well, I did my best, but if I was ever going to have "patients", I would have been a Doctor. I finally couldn't stand it any longer and rolled the plane out.Â
I could have stuck it out of sight under the nose pod, if I had thought of it before, but I don't mind it up on top, although I do think it is raising hell with my "yarn" slip indicator.Â
The video is the most steady through out the full throttle range that I have found yet, and of course I had a great time. Hang in there guys, better times are coming.Â
https://vimeo.com/119720660Â Â password- Â Â owyheeflyer
Larry
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: new camera mount- version 3 |
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Great Video Larry!
Your 61 degrees sounds great, good to watch while still sitting inside here in Minnesota as it is still -2 outside.
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