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Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:25 pm Post subject: Firestar cage

A friend & I have just purchased a Firestar basket case, and I will be fabricating a fuselage cage from scratch. (!?!? yes, I know I am in over my head) 

If anyone has pictures of their Firestar cage prior to covering, I would really appreciate it if you would send them to me; thegreybaron(at)charter.net.

Thanks!

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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0

Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.

williamtsullivan(at)att.n
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:34 pm Post subject: Firestar cage

Firestar, or Firestar II?  I built the front half of an original Firestar, but I had all of the original parts (bent!) to go off of.



                                                   Bill Sullivan

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 Subject: Firestar cage

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 Date: Friday, July 1, 2016, 4:25 PM

 

 

 "Richard Pike" <thegreybaron(at)charter.net>

 

 A friend & I have just purchased a Firestar basket case,

 and I will be fabricating a fuselage cage from scratch.

 (!?!? yes, I know I am in over my head) 

 If anyone has pictures of their Firestar cage prior to

 covering, I would really appreciate it if you would send

 them to me; thegreybaron(at)charter.net.

 Thanks!

 

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 Kingsport, TN 3TN0

 

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Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:10 am Post subject: Re: Firestar cage

Original Firestar, 5 rib wing. The only usable cage parts are the rear verticals from the 1/2" bolt cluster up to the motor mount tube, the tube including the front and rear spar carry throughs. Also have the front tube ring with the landing gear leg sockets, it is reusable. Every other tube is severely bent, but they are there, and can probably be used for measurements. 

So we will be fabricating a new cage based on the rear verticals, the top tube, and the gear leg sockets. Just hoping for some photos to keep around the workshop to help visualize better what it needs to look like, and make sure nothing gets overlooked.

It's good to be retired...

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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0

Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:16 am Post subject: Firestar cage

Can't remember if Bryan Melborn still has the jigs for the original FS or

not.



john h

mkIII

Titus, Alabama



 

Original Firestar, 5 rib wing. The only usable cage parts are the rear

verticals from the 1/2" bolt cluster up to the motor mount tube, the tube

including the front and rear spar carry throughs. Also have the front tube

ring with the landing gear leg sockets, it is reusable. Every other tube is

severely bent.

So we will be fabricating a new cage based on the rear verticals, the top

tube, and the gear leg sockets.

It's good to be retired...



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Richard Pike

Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

Kingsport, TN 3TN0

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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:39 am Post subject: Re: Firestar cage

I don't think so. I asked Travis about that over a year ago when I first got interested in this wreck, and it seems I would have had to furnish the specs for spar pickup points, as they did not have those any more.



However, looking at various pictures online this morning, it occurs to me - why not fashion the new cage after a Firefly cage? Simpler and probably lighter.



So - if anyone has any pictures of your naked Firefly cage you would like to contribute, I would be happy to have them. Failing that, I can wait until Bryan is making one, and ride up to the factory and get some there.

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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0

Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:12 am Post subject: Firestar cage

Firefly fuselage was based on the original FS fuselage.



john h

mkIII

Titus, Alabama

I don't think so. I asked Travis about that over a year ago when I first got

interested in this wreck, and it seems I would have had to furnish the specs

for spar pickup points, as they did not have those any more.



However, looking at various pictures online this morning, it occurs to me -

why not fashion the new cage after a Firefly cage? Simpler and probably

lighter.



So - if anyone has any pictures of your naked Firefly cage you would like to

contribute, I would be happy to have them. Failing that, I can wait until

Bryan is making one, and ride up to the factory and get some there.



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Richard Pike

Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

Kingsport, TN 3TN0

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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:23 am Post subject: Re: Firestar cage

Good, then they ought to be compatible.  And I have found a source of all the pictures I need,

http://harnerfarm.net/serenity/serenity.html

 so thanks to all you guys anyway, we can suspend this thread, I am good to go here.

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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0

Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.

Herbgh(at)nctc.com
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:01 am Post subject: Firestar cage

Sorry that I did not reduce the pics....!!



   forgot to mention that I have a damaged nose cone ..that can be had 

for free.. Herb



On 07/02/2016 10:23 AM, Richard Pike wrote:

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 Good, then they ought to be compatible.  And I have found a source of all the pictures I need,

 http://harnerfarm.net/serenity/serenity.html

   so thanks to all you guys anyway, we can suspend this thread, I am good to go here.



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 Richard Pike

 Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

 Kingsport, TN 3TN0



 Would you consider yourself to be a good person?

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=457640#457640






	


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Aristotle

Herbgh(at)nctc.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:25 am Post subject: Firestar cage

Bro Pike



    I sent the large pics directly to you....Matronics would not allow 

the size and I grew tired of trying to reduce them...more lack of 

patience that being tired.!!  



     Herb



On 07/02/2016 11:01 AM, Herb wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Sorry that I did not reduce the pics....!!



   forgot to mention that I have a damaged nose cone ..that can be had 

 for free.. Herb

stuart(at)harnerfarm.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:10 am Post subject: Firestar cage

Richard,



Let me know if you need any dimensions from Serenity and I will get them for

you. 



Since I have no place to fly from this summer she is resting comfortably in

the camper parked in the driveway.



Stuart



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Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Firestar cage

Herb; thank you so much. With what we now have to work with, it suddenly looks possible that we might actually have this thing flying by fall.

Stuart; once we start to jig things up, I will likely be pestering you.

John, thanks for all your experience.

The folks on this list are great. I am thankful to be a part of this group of people.

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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0

Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.

Herbgh(at)nctc.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:00 pm Post subject: Firestar cage

I also have a Firefly builders manual ...around here somewhere...yep 

just found it....yours too....



  by the way...my not have been apparent..but spar carry through is 

bent... Herb



On 07/02/2016 02:42 PM, Richard Pike wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Herb; thank you so much. With what we now have to work with, it suddenly looks possible that we might actually have this thing flying by fall.

 Stuart; once we start to jig things up, I will likely be pestering you.

 John, thanks for all your experience.

 The folks on this list are great. I am thankful to be a part of this group of people.



 --------

 Richard Pike

 Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

 Kingsport, TN 3TN0



 Would you consider yourself to be a good person?

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcDXT6pH7A





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=457656#457656






	


-- 

"Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny."



Aristotle

Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: Firestar cage

[quote="Herbgh(at)nctc.com"]<snip>  by the way...may not have been apparent..but spar carry through is 

bent... Herb <snip> [quote] 



Beggars can't be choosers. Besides, if you get steel hot enough, it will bend back.

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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0

Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.

west1m

Joined: 19 Apr 2014
Posts: 155
Location: Hastings, MN

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:20 am Post subject: Re: Firestar cage

I am a long way from TN but I also have a slightly bent cage, wings, tail feathers , nose (not too bad shape) and a 5 pound roll of blueprints.

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Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Firestar cage

 	  west1m wrote: 	
		  I am a long way from TN but I also have a slightly bent cage, wings, tail feathers , nose (not too bad shape) and a 5 pound roll of blueprints. 	


Thanks. Let me see what we have to work with after I go collect what Herb has.

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Richard Pike
Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0

Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.

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