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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:04 am    Post subject: Sight gauge Reply with quote
I have found the sight gauge to be almost completely unreliable in my classic monowheel. The only way I can know the fuel state is to slowly fill to the top of the filler and set the totalizer to 18 gallons.
I consult the sight gauge periodically during the flight, chiefly for entertainment value and to ensure there is indeed some fuel remaining. Often, an hour or two into the flight, the gauge will suddenly show a quantity in agreement with the totalizer.
Yes, I know of the vent problems of the monos, but even with purging them on the ground they seem to have more air bubbles introduced during taxi and climbout.
The diagonal stripes do work a treat, however.
Creighton 96EG
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1. 11:46 AM - Re: Fuel sight ball (John Wigney)
2. 12:27 PM - Re: Cooling issues on the ground XS 914UL (HB-YNK)
3. 12:42 PM - Re: Re: Fuel sight ball (houlihan tim)
4. 04:11 PM - Re: Fuel sight ball (AirEupora)
5. 04:13 PM - Re: Fuel sight ball (AirEupora)



________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________


Time: 11:46:11 AM PST US
From: John Wigney <johnwigney(at)windstream.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel sight ball

Hi Martin,

Might I suggest another solution. The standard sight gauges for the
water level in boilers use a background with angled black and white
stripes. Due to refraction, where there is liquid the stripes are
reversed which makes it very easy to see the level.

I poked around on Google Images and found one example on a steam
locomotive. Simple, effective, cheap and it will work with gasoline. See
below.


Cheers, John
N262WF, XS mono, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina


ORIGINAL MESSAGE

From: Martin Tuck<MJKTuck(at)cs.com>
Subject: Fuel sight ball


Does anyone know where I can find a red float ball I can install in the sight gauge
fuel line?

Regards,
Martin Tuck
Europa N152MT


________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________


Time: 12:27:37 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Cooling issues on the ground XS 914UL
From: "HB-YNK" <marcel.bo(at)hotmail.com>


Dear all,

Thank you very much for your help.
I'll start to close all gaps around the radiators and then check out the improvement,
before doing some more improvements.
Probably I'll come later back to you, especially to Gilles, Jim & Heather for some
detail questions.

Thanks again for the great support!

Wish you all the best.

Greetings from Switzerland
Marcel


Read this topic online here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460940#460940


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Time: 12:42:04 PM PST US
From: houlihan tim <houlihan(at)blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Fuel sight ball


Hi John, Martin.

This idea can be found on page 3-4 of the build manual.

No need to reinvent it

Tim

> On 04 October 2016 at 19:44 John Wigney <johnwigney(at)windstream.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> Might I suggest another solution. The standard sight gauges for the water
> level in boilers use a background with angled black and white stripes. Due to
> refraction, where there is liquid the stripes are reversed which makes it very
> easy to see the level.
>
> I poked around on Google Images and found one example on a steam
> locomotive. Simple, effective, cheap and it will work with gasoline. See
> below.
>
>
>
> Cheers, John
> N262WF, XS mono, 912S
> Mooresville, North Carolina
>
>
> ORIGINAL MESSAGE
>
>
> From: Martin Tuck <MJKTuck(at)cs.com> mailto:MJKTuck(at)cs.com
> Subject: Fuel sight ball
>
>
> Does anyone know where I can find a red float ball I can install in the
> sight gauge
> fuel line?
>
> Regards,
> Martin Tuck
> Europa N152MT
>


________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________


Time: 04:11:23 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Fuel sight ball
From: "AirEupora" <AirEupora(at)sbcglobal.net>


I just ordered one from Univair Aircraft Corporation.

Univair.com

U10853-000 Piper Fuel Gauge Float Ball $5.48USD


Read this topic online here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460945#460945


________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________


Time: 04:13:53 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Fuel sight ball
From: "AirEupora" <AirEupora(at)sbcglobal.net>


http://www.univair.com/piper/piper-pa-11/view-all/u10853-000-piper-fuel-gauge-float-ball/


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:46 pm    Post subject: Sight gauge Reply with quote
I don't run the sight gauge down near the foot wells, instead I run it up the center tunnel on up on the passenger seat side into the passenger headrest to the vent.

Martin

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On Oct 5, 2016, at 2:04 PM, crouton <crouton(at)well.com> wrote:



I have found the sight gauge to be almost completely unreliable in my classic monowheel. The only way I can know the fuel state is to slowly fill to the top of the filler and set the totalizer to 18 gallons.
I consult the sight gauge periodically during the flight, chiefly for entertainment value and to ensure there is indeed some fuel remaining. Often, an hour or two into the flight, the gauge will suddenly show a quantity in agreement with the totalizer.
Yes, I know of the vent problems of the monos, but even with purging them on the ground they seem to have more air bubbles introduced during taxi and climbout.
The diagonal stripes do work a treat, however.
Creighton 96EG


Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 5, 2016, at 3:03 AM, Europa-List Digest Server <europa-list(at)matronics.com> wrote:
>
> *
>
> ==================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> ==================================================
>
> Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 16-10-04&Archive=Europa
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 16-10-04&Archive=Europa
>
>
> ================================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ================================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Europa-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Tue 10/04/16: 5
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 11:46 AM - Re: Fuel sight ball (John Wigney)
> 2. 12:27 PM - Re: Cooling issues on the ground XS 914UL (HB-YNK)
> 3. 12:42 PM - Re: Re: Fuel sight ball (houlihan tim)
> 4. 04:11 PM - Re: Fuel sight ball (AirEupora)
> 5. 04:13 PM - Re: Fuel sight ball (AirEupora)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:46:11 AM PST US
> From: John Wigney <johnwigney(at)windstream.net>
> Subject: Re: Fuel sight ball
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> Might I suggest another solution. The standard sight gauges for the
> water level in boilers use a background with angled black and white
> stripes. Due to refraction, where there is liquid the stripes are
> reversed which makes it very easy to see the level.
>
> I poked around on Google Images and found one example on a steam
> locomotive. Simple, effective, cheap and it will work with gasoline. See
> below.
>
>
> Cheers, John
> N262WF, XS mono, 912S
> Mooresville, North Carolina
>
>
> ORIGINAL MESSAGE
>
> From: Martin Tuck<MJKTuck(at)cs.com>
> Subject: Fuel sight ball
>
>
> Does anyone know where I can find a red float ball I can install in the sight gauge
> fuel line?
>
> Regards,
> Martin Tuck
> Europa N152MT
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:27:37 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Cooling issues on the ground XS 914UL
> From: "HB-YNK" <marcel.bo(at)hotmail.com>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Thank you very much for your help.
> I'll start to close all gaps around the radiators and then check out the improvement,
> before doing some more improvements.
> Probably I'll come later back to you, especially to Gilles, Jim & Heather for some
> detail questions.
>
> Thanks again for the great support!
>
> Wish you all the best.
>
> Greetings from Switzerland
> Marcel
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460940#460940
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:42:04 PM PST US
> From: houlihan tim <houlihan(at)blueyonder.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Re: Fuel sight ball
>
>
> Hi John, Martin.
>
> This idea can be found on page 3-4 of the build manual.
>
> No need to reinvent it
>
> Tim
>
>> On 04 October 2016 at 19:44 John Wigney <johnwigney(at)windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> Might I suggest another solution. The standard sight gauges for the water
>> level in boilers use a background with angled black and white stripes. Due to
>> refraction, where there is liquid the stripes are reversed which makes it very
>> easy to see the level.
>>
>> I poked around on Google Images and found one example on a steam
>> locomotive. Simple, effective, cheap and it will work with gasoline. See
>> below.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers, John
>> N262WF, XS mono, 912S
>> Mooresville, North Carolina
>>
>>
>> ORIGINAL MESSAGE
>>
>>
>> From: Martin Tuck <MJKTuck(at)cs.com> mailto:MJKTuck(at)cs.com
>> Subject: Fuel sight ball
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know where I can find a red float ball I can install in the
>> sight gauge
>> fuel line?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Martin Tuck
>> Europa N152MT
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:11:23 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Fuel sight ball
> From: "AirEupora" <AirEupora(at)sbcglobal.net>
>
>
> I just ordered one from Univair Aircraft Corporation.
>
> Univair.com
>
> U10853-000 Piper Fuel Gauge Float Ball $5.48USD
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460945#460945
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:13:53 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Fuel sight ball
> From: "AirEupora" <AirEupora(at)sbcglobal.net>
>
>
> http://www.univair.com/piper/piper-pa-11/view-all/u10853-000-piper-fuel-gauge-float-ball/
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460946#460946
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>








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