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msm_9949(at)yahoo.com
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 Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006? |
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Lynn:
I think your instructor is right. I can't cite the FAR # but I recall from my student pilot days that instructor had to "sign off" on every new airport before student can fly there solo. There are a bunch of blank sign-off forms in the back of your log book for this very purpose.
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:
[quote]--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
My instructor says that going that distance, alone, out-of-state,
whatever, is against the rules of the "student pilot certificate"...is
he wrong?
Lynn
On Monday, July 10, 2006, at 03:12 PM, Larry Huntley wrote:
[quote] --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley"
Sounds like you are a "real" pilot as long as you are flying alone.
What is the problem? Larry
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ameaders(at)midsouth.rr.c
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006? |
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| Quote: | | FAR 61.93 – The distance and state is not the issue. The flight instructor has to feel that you have the experience to safely conduct the flight and he signs your logbook specifically based on known weather conditions. As an instructor, I can tell you that I would not endorse any student for that trip and certainly not into the Oshkosh airport. There are many experienced pilots who will not fly into Oshkosh and many who have only flown in once. I would prefer not to be alone so that I had additional sets of eyes if possible. I think it’s a great idea to fly in with someone else before acting as PIC. Remember that students are not allowed to fly into certain busy terminal areas solo – Oshkosh is busier than all of them. Alexis |
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco Menezes
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 7:41 PM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006?
Lynn:
I think your instructor is right. I can't cite the FAR # but I recall from my student pilot days that instructor had to "sign off" on every new airport before student can fly there solo. There are a bunch of blank sign-off forms in the back of your log book for this very purpose.
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson
My instructor says that going that distance, alone, out-of-state,
whatever, is against the rules of the "student pilot certificate"...is
he wrong?
Lynn
On Monday, July 10, 2006, at 03:12 PM, Larry Huntley wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Larry Huntley"
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> Sounds like you are a "real" pilot as long as you are flying alone.
> What is the problem? Larry
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006? |
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You are correct, Marco....I just got signed off for 5 grass strips
within 25nm from my home base. Next are fields within 50nm, then
pavement (according to the instructor)...I haven't found a FAR that
says that I can't go to Osh alone, but common sense tells me I
shouldn't....dammit!
Lynn
On Monday, July 10, 2006, at 08:41 PM, Marco Menezes wrote:
[quote] Lynn:
I think your instructor is right. I can't cite the FAR # but I recall
from my student pilot days that instructor had to "sign off" on every
new airport before student can fly there solo. There are a bunch of
blank sign-off forms in the back of your log book for this very
purpose.
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net> wrote:
My instructor says that going that distance, alone, out-of-state,
whatever, is against the rules of the "student pilot certificate"...is
he wrong?
Lynn
On Monday, July 10, 2006, at 03:12 PM, Larry Huntley wrote:
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> Sounds like you are a "real" pilot as long as you are flying alone.
> What is the problem? Larry
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asq1(at)adelphia.net
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:16 am Post subject: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006? |
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I learned something about OSH a few years ago.I really didn't want to fly into that beehive,so I chose to fly into Fond Du Lac. I left Mi. just before daylight and was calling in at Fond Du Lac about 45 min later, just before the tower opened. I tried there and OSH and there was no sound on the radio,no tower,no traffic. I was getting concerned about my radio when I was answered by the tower"cleared to land"for # ??runway. Nothing wrong w/ the radio. No one was up yet. I fortunately made a last call before diverting at precisely the tower opening time. We were the only plane in the sky and the first ones on the ground at Fond Du Lac. Piece of cake. It was no busier at OSH.
So, if you don't mind getting up in the AM,it is a pretty easy flight,or was that time. And that was opening day. Larry Huntley
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asq1(at)adelphia.net
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:20 am Post subject: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006? |
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That is interesting. I was signed off solo on skis,flew on them for about 2
hrs and had to make my next landing on pavement 50 miles away. It was a very
interesting landing, but my old Luscombe and I came through it alright.
I saw the results of an instructor turning a student in a brand new Fox
loose on the blacktop in Venice,Fl. a few years ago. It wasn't pretty.
Dinged up his bird bad. Good idea to stay away from blacktop til you are
really good on grass,and start out in only no wind conditions.
Larry
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:58 am Post subject: Student pilot solo to Oshkosh 2006? |
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Good advice, Larry....I made 4 or 5 landings (dual) at JXN (pavement)
and they worked, but not pretty. Since then I've managed about 28 hours
solo, all on grass, and pretty straight. I'm pretty sure I would have
dinged it up by now if not for a VERY demanding instructor. I'm
thinking back to the guy who was going to solo me after 5 hrs tailwheel
training, and he should have his CFI "instructorship" revoked.....I
wasn't anywhere near ready.
Lynn
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On Tuesday, July 11, 2006, at 07:19 AM, Larry Huntley wrote:
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That is interesting. I was signed off solo on skis,flew on them for
about 2 hrs and had to make my next landing on pavement 50 miles away.
It was a very interesting landing, but my old Luscombe and I came
through it alright.
I saw the results of an instructor turning a student in a brand new
Fox loose on the blacktop in Venice,Fl. a few years ago. It wasn't
pretty. Dinged up his bird bad. Good idea to stay away from blacktop
til you are really good on grass,and start out in only no wind
conditions.
Larry
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