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bobhitchcock(at)icloud.co
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:09 am Post subject: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

Still no further specifics on the failing fuel bend. But much activity in the background 

http://www.theeuropaclub.org/news/laa-airworthiness-alert-ail-december-2017-all-europas

Jim Kelly

Joined: 25 Jan 2014
Posts: 70
Location: England

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:08 am Post subject: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

Many thanks for the info Bob already noted.Is there any proposed flights other than Dave's Spanish adventure.

Best wishes Jim

On 5 Dec 2017 1:28 p.m., "Bob Hitchcock" <bobhitchcock(at)icloud.com (bobhitchcock(at)icloud.com)> wrote: 	  Quote: 	
		  

Still no further specifics on the failing fuel bend. But much activity in the background 

http://www.theeuropaclub.org/news/laa-airworthiness-alert-ail-december-2017-all-europas

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graeme bird

Joined: 15 Jul 2010
Posts: 434

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

Checked my 6 year old, rubber conventional filler tube (old style long one from the centre of the fuselage. Looked good as new to me and very flexible, no signs of cracking around the face or inside. Surely first signs would be black bits in the fuel filter.

Was there any progress on the metal filler, did anyone get a batch made? Was it with Nev?

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kit4 (Wagstaff) TBD
Kit3 G-CLXU (Gregory) mono 914 xs Woodcomp
Kit2 G-PATS - (kesterton) Mono Classic 912 warpdrive
Kit 1 G-UMPY - Mono Classic/XS 912S, Woodcomp G(@)gdbmk.co.uk

Ivor

Joined: 23 Jul 2015
Posts: 51

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:21 am Post subject: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

A picture of two section of original pipe from my aircraft, looked fine on the outside but definitely breaking up on the inside,

the amount of rubber actually exposed to the fuel was very small on my installation,

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ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:02 am Post subject: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

Hi Europa owners,

It has become evident my aluminium elbow maybe in demand again.

I can ask the manufacturer of the aluminium elbow to make another run. This would require at least ten Europa owners to commit to buying. As I am now flying to Heathrow  again I can bring them with me and post them in Londontown to save cost. American builders also, as I am in Los Angeles/San Francisco frequently.

Those builders interested in buying an elbow please email me. If there are enough I will get a price for you before committing. 

I have had no problem with this fuel flow connection.

Merry Christmas.

Cheers,

Tim 

Tim Ward

12 Waiwetu Street,

Fendalton,

Christchurch, 8052

New Zealand



ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz



Mob +64 210640221

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		   On 18/12/2017, at 3:34 AM, Richard Wheelwright <rpwheelwright(at)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

 

 

 

 Just completed the check on G-IRPW. And all is well. Just for info I did fit Tim Wards elbow a few years ago.

 

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brian.davies44(at)gmail.c
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:49 pm Post subject: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

Guys,



Before you all rush to fit aluminium elbows to LAA aircraft please note that

there is not currently an approved mod to do so.  This is being worked on by

Andy Draper but until we see what it says, particularly with regard to what

spec joining hose is acceptable, we don't know what to buy.  As I fitted one

of Tim's elbows 10 years ago I am hoping this will now get approved quickly

by a standard mod to regularise the situation.



Regards



Brian



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clivesutton

Joined: 23 Jan 2013
Posts: 187
Location: KENILWORTH

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:09 am Post subject: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

As you say Bob, lots of activity behind the scenes.  



MOD79 may also bring something to the party for some Europa-owners (LAA aware).  The black silicone hoses in that MOD kit have a green fluoro fuel-resistant lining.



http://www.europa-aircraft.com/upload/Modification%20Bulletin%20No%2079%20(Issue%2003).pdf



Liking the new look/feel and regular updates of the website btw . . .

brian.davies(at)clara.co.
Guest

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:33 am Post subject: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

Hi Jon,



The standard lengths are 76mm so I have ordered two .  You need about 30mm overlap on to each joint surface and there are effectively 4 joint surfaces.



Regards



Brian



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JonSmith

Joined: 21 May 2010
Posts: 110

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

Many thanks for that Brian, much obliged.   I have now also ordered two!

Cheers, Jon

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brian.davies44(at)gmail.c
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:47 am Post subject: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

Update- a formal LAA Mod application for the XS aluminium elbow has now been submitted and is "in the system".



I will let you know when it has been approved.



Regards



Brian



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JonSmith

Joined: 21 May 2010
Posts: 110

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:49 am Post subject: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

Thanks for the update Brian.  Just out of interest does the mod call for any special clamps for the silicone hose or are the standard factory jubilee clips suitable?    I’ve no experience with silicone hose but I’m led to believe it is softer and have heard you can get clips with rounded edges to suit it better.

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ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:11 pm Post subject: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

Thanks Brian.

Most appreciated.

Tim 



Tim Ward

12 Waiwetu Street,

Fendalton,

Christchurch, 8052

New Zealand



ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz



Mob +64 210640221

[quote] On 3/01/2018, at 6:46 AM, Brian Davies <brian.davies44(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Update- a formal LAA Mod application for the XS aluminium elbow has now been submitted and is "in the system".

 

 I will let you know when it has been approved.

 

 Regards

 

 Brian

 

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brian.davies(at)clara.co.
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:48 pm Post subject: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

Hi Jon,

In order to keep things simple the mod uses the same clamps as the standard installation. Constant pressure spring clamps might be an even better solution if you can get hold of the correct size.



Regards



Brian



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JonSmith

Joined: 21 May 2010
Posts: 110

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:49 am Post subject: Re: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

Thanks Brian, good news!  

Cheers, Jon

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Classic Mono

craigb(at)onthenet.com.au
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:44 am Post subject: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

FYIW I installed the alloy elbow at build stage and used a commercial fuel tanker delivery hose to connect each end the supplier was willing

To sell me half a metre, the spec sheet claimed it to be completely impervious to all fuel types including methanol which I believe is the most

Troublesome of fuel types



Regards

Craig

Kit 577



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pjeffers(at)talktalk.net
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:40 am Post subject: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

Hi Tim,

As and when you get a batch of these metal elbows for Europa XS made up, could you please include one for J Baranski (G-CCJX).  John is a Europa Club member in the UK, but has not as yet registered for the Matronics Forum so I am sending this request on his behalf.

Pete Jeffers   (Europa Club LAA Inspector)

PS he is currently AOG as he damaged his original whilst trying to inspect it.



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ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:24 am Post subject: LAA Airworthiness Alert. AIL December 2017 All Europas

Hi Pete,

Sure thing, done.

Tim 



Tim Ward

12 Waiwetu Street,

Fendalton,

Christchurch, 8052

New Zealand



ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz



Mob +64 210640221

[quote] On 7/01/2018, at 2:39 AM, Peter Jeffers <pjeffers(at)talktalk.net> wrote:

 

 

 

 Hi Tim,

 As and when you get a batch of these metal elbows for Europa XS made up, could you please include one for J Baranski (G-CCJX).  John is a Europa Club member in the UK, but has not as yet registered for the Matronics Forum so I am sending this request on his behalf.

 Pete Jeffers   (Europa Club LAA Inspector)

 PS he is currently AOG as he damaged his original whilst trying to inspect it.

 

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