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jbhart(at)onlyinternet.ne
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 Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:59 am Post subject: Matt Dralle Why are we |
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And here's another thought for you, Michael. Someone invites you over to their home for dinner and conversation. Last time I checked, I don't believe its considered proper form (forum) to talk about how crappy their food, furnishings, and house are. You are a very rude individual.
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Matt,
I am a little disappointed. Although you require registration, you have
created an open forum. If you expect civility, you will be disappointed.
If you demand it, the Kolb List will become a dull place. I believe you
have to face up to the fact that we have a member mix that ranges from zero
to ten rating, in computer capabilities, technical experience, and education
level.
On the List when someone strikes a discordant note in what you consider to
be your area of expertise, a natural reaction is to think what a "dumb ---".
But if you sit back a little, then you realize that that fellow may not
have had the advantage of the path you have travelled. Maybe the best thing
to do is to find out what the problem is and suggest a solution or just keep
quiet. What may be called rudeness by others could really be frustration.
What is neat about this list, is that there is a flow of information to help
Kolb builders/owners, and to improve flight performance of existing
aircraft. When someone makes a direct statement that covers all Kolb
designs, or says a particular engine type is the only way to go, others
point out that these statements may not be applicable for them and why. And
so, the exchange of information continues.
Also, it is great to feel like you belong to a larger community of people
who like to fly and talk about it. I see very few other pilots at my local
airport, and the local EAA Chapter membership is slowly falling off, because
there do not seem to be that many young pilots and us old guys are dying off.
Going to be another HOT one today.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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JetPilot
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1246
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: Re: Matt Dralle Why are we |
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Well, the thing that's ironic is that JetPilot's (Michael Bigelow) assertions are for the most part wrong. The reason his messages get fragmented so often is that there is a something about the email program that he uses that inserts non-standard characters into the email message and Subject line. |
Matt you are wrong,
I do not use the email portion of your list, I have had it turned off for months now. I have entered all of my posts using your forum and internet explorer, which every Windows user in the world has. There is nothing different or special about how I am entering the subject line. If non-standard characters are being inserted then it is your own software doing it. You need to look at it and find out why its happening.
There is a problem with the way the list is working, and I have pointed it out to you. There is no reason you should have taken offense to that or even gotten defensive about it.
Michael A. Bigelow
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Jim Baker
Joined: 30 Mar 2006
Posts: 181
Location: Sayre, PA
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:00 am Post subject: Matt Dralle Why are we |
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| Quote: | I have entered all of my posts using your forum and internet > explorer
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Matronics.....HotMail.......
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
Elmore City, OK
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Jim Baker
Joined: 30 Mar 2006
Posts: 181
Location: Sayre, PA
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:31 am Post subject: Matt Dralle Why are we |
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| Quote: | > I have entered all of my posts using your forum and internet > explorer
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Matronics.....HotMail.......
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Now, that's odd! The above dashed lines had an email address
located between them. Let's see if it's repeatable.....
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Jim Baker
580.788.2779
Elmore City, OK
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Ed in JXN
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
Posts: 122
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:54 am Post subject: Matt Dralle Why are we |
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Michael,
Why aren't you posting to Matt directly? Your attempts to ridicule
and embarass anyone by posting directly on the list are falling on deaf
ears.
Why do you think you're the only one experiencing any 'problems'?
Might be your setup, because everyone else is happy.
I vote you be the first - permanently - banned member on this list.
You are a blight on the landscape, and a waste of bandwidth.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
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Eugene Zimmerman
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 392
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: Matt Dralle Why are we |
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On Jul 17, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Jim Baker wrote:
| Quote: | > Matronics.....HotMail.......
Now, that's odd! The above dashed lines had an email address
located between them. Let's see if it's repeatable.....
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But isn't that a good idea to prevent all the address harvesters from
getting your address for the spammers?
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Russ Kinne
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject: Matt Dralle Why are we |
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Amen, Ed! -- you're right on. Hope he listens.
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On Jul 17, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Ed Chmielewski wrote:
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<edchmiel(at)mindspring.com>
Michael,
Why aren't you posting to Matt directly? Your attempts to
ridicule and embarass anyone by posting directly on the list are
falling on deaf ears.
Why do you think you're the only one experiencing any
'problems'? Might be your setup, because everyone else is happy.
I vote you be the first - permanently - banned member on
this list. You are a blight on the landscape, and a waste of
bandwidth.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
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dhkey(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:51 am Post subject: Matt Dralle Why are we |
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I thrid the first - permanently - banned member on the list be JetPilot.
[quote]From: russ kinne <kinnepix(at)earthlink.net>
Reply-To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Matt Dralle Why are we
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:59:03 -0400
Amen, Ed! -- you're right on. Hope he listens.
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On Jul 17, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Ed Chmielewski wrote:
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><edchmiel(at)mindspring.com>
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>Michael,
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> Why aren't you posting to Matt directly? Your attempts to
>ridicule and embarass anyone by posting directly on the list are falling
>on deaf ears.
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> Why do you think you're the only one experiencing any 'problems'?
>Might be your setup, because everyone else is happy.
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> I vote you be the first - permanently - banned member on this
>list. You are a blight on the landscape, and a waste of bandwidth.
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>Ed in JXN
>MkII/503
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Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: Matt Dralle Why are we |
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"JetPilot" wrote: << In just one day, my thread was broken into 11 different
threads thanks to this antiquated email system >>
Hey, JetPilot -
Isn't the solution obvious to you? Why don't you just QUIT the List, if all
you're gonna do is gripe.
Antiquated system?
In its current form, this Kolb List has aided me HUNDREDS of times in the
construction, operation and maintenance of my Kolb. This is the exact
purpose of the List. I'm happy with Matt's format, and his efforts in
getting us all connected. And I will continue to support Matronics every
November, when I send a check to Matt. I look for the content, not how
"modern" or "electronically compatible" the List is.
I have a nicely-finished, perfectly-flying Kolb to show for my efforts in
following the Kolb List over the past ten years. What else matters?
Spout your opinion if you wish, but do NOT advertise that your opinion is
the viewpoint of others.
Matt - your List is fine, Amigo. I appreciate your good work!
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, 912, in
Cedar Crest, NM
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