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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:20 am    Post subject: TR1 Reply with quote

I have recently purchased a TR1 with a can air power unit which overall has been quite unreliable for the previous owner. I intend to fit a continental 0200 with crossfloe cylinders, any info or advice would be gratefully recieved,,, thanks Tom
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:19 am    Post subject: TR1 Reply with quote

Hi Tom,

I would suggest the Lycoming O-235 over the Continental O-200. The added power is very important. My TR-1 was powered by a 125hp high compression O-235 and I found the performance to be ok in climb but good in cruise. My guess is the O-200 would be ok in cruise but marginal in climb. But what works for you may be different.

My company (aeromomentum.com) offers new engines based on Suzuki that are dyno and flight proven that would work well in the TR-1.

Mark Kettering
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I have recently purchased a TR1 with a
can air power unit which overall has been quite unreliable
for the previous owner. I intend to fit a continental 0200
with crossfloe cylinders, any info or advice would be
gratefully recieved,,, thanks Tom
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:41 pm    Post subject: TR1 Reply with quote

Howdy Tom,
Further to Marks reply ... 100 HP wont allow u to
see the TR1 performance potential .. too under powered .., good luck with ur
decisions .. Lets know what u decide and how it goes plz ..,
Cheers
Graham
TR1 # 80

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To: <kis-list(at)matronics.com>; <tomreeder1(at)icloud.com>
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Hi Tom,

I would suggest the Lycoming O-235 over the Continental O-200. The added
power is very important. My TR-1 was powered by a 125hp high compression
O-235 and I found the performance to be ok in climb but good in cruise.
My guess is the O-200 would be ok in cruise but marginal in climb. But
what works for you may be different.

My company (aeromomentum.com) offers new engines based on Suzuki that are
dyno and flight proven that would work well in the TR-1.

Mark Kettering
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Subject: TR1
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Date: Monday, March 25, 2019, 12:07 PM


Reeder <tomreeder1(at)icloud.com>
I have recently purchased a TR1 with a
can air power unit which overall has been quite unreliable
for the previous owner. I intend to fit a continental 0200
with crossfloe cylinders, any info or advice would be
gratefully recieved,,, thanks Tom
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:41 am    Post subject: TR1 Reply with quote

O320 is the only way to go! Please don’t even consider 0200!

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On Mar 26, 2019, at 9:38 PM, Graham Brighton <gbrighton(at)skymesh.com.au> wrote:



Howdy Tom,
Further to Marks reply ... 100 HP wont allow u to see the TR1 performance potential .. too under powered .., good luck with ur decisions .. Lets know what u decide and how it goes plz ..,
Cheers
Graham
TR1 # 80

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From: "M Ketteing" <aeromomentum(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 4:06 AM
To: <kis-list(at)matronics.com>; <tomreeder1(at)icloud.com>
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>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I would suggest the Lycoming O-235 over the Continental O-200. The added power is very important. My TR-1 was powered by a 125hp high compression O-235 and I found the performance to be ok in climb but good in cruise. My guess is the O-200 would be ok in cruise but marginal in climb. But what works for you may be different.
>
> My company (aeromomentum.com) offers new engines based on Suzuki that are dyno and flight proven that would work well in the TR-1.
>
> Mark Kettering
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> On Mon, 3/25/19, Thomas Reeder <tomreeder1(at)icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: TR1
> To: kis-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Monday, March 25, 2019, 12:07 PM
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>
> Reeder <tomreeder1(at)icloud.com>
>
>
> I have recently purchased a TR1 with a
> can air power unit which overall has been quite unreliable
> for the previous owner. I intend to fit a continental 0200
> with crossfloe cylinders, any info or advice would be
> gratefully recieved,,, thanks Tom
> Sent from my iPhone
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:13 am    Post subject: TR1 Reply with quote

Thomas
The switch to the 0-200 is certainly going to be more reliable that the CAM , which i know has had its issues in your KIS over the years, since it was made way back in the 90's , But like others I would recommend going a bit bigger than the O-200, if you have the chance.
The KIS will likely be still under powered on Grass at MTOW, with 100HP. Having said that we had a 0-200 powered in the UK (G-OKPW) which operated for a number of years very successfully, (before the owner/ builder switched it out to a JABIRU 6) , The good news is it will be easy getting LAA approval, for the change from the CAM to the O-200.

Note : LAA has also approved the 0-235 Lyc , TCM IO-240, TCM O-240, and the JABIRU 6. (knowing the LAA, unless you want to do lots of paperwork , i would not recommend going with any other unit)

Keith
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:27 am    Post subject: TR1 Reply with quote

Thanks for the input, it has cross flow heads and I intend to fit hc pistons this should up the rating a little. Tom

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Thomas
The switch to the 0-200 is certainly going to be more reliable that the CAM , which i know has had its issues in your KIS over the years, since it was made way back in the 90's , But like others I would recommend going a bit bigger than the O-200, if you have the chance.
The KIS will likely be still under powered on Grass at MTOW, with 100HP. Having said that we had a 0-200 powered in the UK (G-OKPW) which operated for a number of years very successfully, (before the owner/ builder switched it out to a JABIRU 6) , The good news is it will be easy getting LAA approval, for the change from the CAM to the O-200.

Note : LAA has also approved the 0-235 Lyc , TCM IO-240, TCM O-240, and the JABIRU 6. (knowing the LAA, unless you want to do lots of paperwork , i would not recommend going with any other unit)

Keith
G-OKMA


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