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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:27 am    Post subject: Marking Wires Reply with quote

I am going to be making a bunch of harnesses next week and would like to find a good solution for marking wires. I need to custom label very clear and specific markings on many wires to make it easy for the customer to install so I was thinking of getting a DYMO Printer and using their 1/4" Heat-Shrink. Has anyone used this system and would it work for 22 gauge wire? I'm afraid it either won't shrink down far enough to be secure on the wire or won't be readable once it does.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:08 am    Post subject: Marking Wires Reply with quote

You're right; it won't shrink enough for 22 AWG wire. Shrink some small, unmarked shrink tube on the wire. Then shrink your label over that.

    -- Art Z.

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I am going to be making a bunch of harnesses next week and would like to find a good solution for marking wires. I need to custom label very clear and specific markings on many wires to make it easy for the customer to install so I was thinking of getting a DYMO Printer and using their 1/4" Heat-Shrink. Has anyone used this system and would it work for 22 gauge wire? I'm afraid it either won't shrink down far enough to be secure on the wire or won't be readable once it does.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:50 am    Post subject: Marking Wires Reply with quote

Is that really a disadvantage? Once bundled, the label won't travel far. And I've found that my labels that can't be moved a bit often are difficult to read because the printed area happens to face into a bundle, or has another wire's label in the way. Sliding them along the wire an inch or two, and being able to rotate them would be an advantage, for me.

Charlie


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You're right; it won't shrink enough for 22 AWG wire. Shrink some small, unmarked shrink tube on the wire. Then shrink your label over that.



    -- Art Z.

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I am going to be making a bunch of harnesses next week and would like to find a good solution for marking wires. I need to custom label very clear and specific markings on many wires to make it easy for the customer to install so I was thinking of getting a DYMO Printer and using their 1/4" Heat-Shrink. Has anyone used this system and would it work for 22 gauge wire? I'm afraid it either won't shrink down far enough to be secure on the wire or won't be readable once it does.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:53 am    Post subject: Marking Wires Reply with quote

At 11:06 AM 8/1/2019, you wrote:
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You're right; it won't shrink enough for 22 AWG wire. Shrink some small, unmarked shrink tube on the wire. Then shrink your label over that.

Another option:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:10 am    Post subject: Marking Wires Reply with quote

The labels that I had would slide freely up and down the 22 awg wire. That's why I had to put a smaller sleeve underneath

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 1:06 PM Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com (ceengland7(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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Is that really a disadvantage? Once bundled, the label won't travel far. And I've found that my labels that can't be moved a bit often are difficult to read because the printed area happens to face into a bundle, or has another wire's label in the way. Sliding them along the wire an inch or two, and being able to rotate them would be an advantage, for me.

Charlie


On 8/1/2019 11:06 AM, Art Zemon wrote:

Quote:
You're right; it won't shrink enough for 22 AWG wire. Shrink some small, unmarked shrink tube on the wire. Then shrink your label over that.



    -- Art Z.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 10:45 AM Sebastien <cluros(at)gmail.com (cluros(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
I am going to be making a bunch of harnesses next week and would like to find a good solution for marking wires. I need to custom label very clear and specific markings on many wires to make it easy for the customer to install so I was thinking of getting a DYMO Printer and using their 1/4" Heat-Shrink. Has anyone used this system and would it work for 22 gauge wire? I'm afraid it either won't shrink down far enough to be secure on the wire or won't be readable once it does.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:47 am    Post subject: Marking Wires Reply with quote

Hi Art,

Sliding is what I'd consider an advantage. Once the wire is in the connector (for me, that's right after labeling), then it can't leave the wire. And once the wire is in its bundle, the label can't move very far away from the connector. I could then slide/rotate the label so I can read it while 'dumpster diving' under the panel at a future date.

On 8/1/2019 1:08 PM, Art Zemon wrote:

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The labels that I had would slide freely up and down the 22 awg wire. That's why I had to put a smaller sleeve underneath



On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 1:06 PM Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com (ceengland7(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
Is that really a disadvantage? Once bundled, the label won't travel far. And I've found that my labels that can't be moved a bit often are difficult to read because the printed area happens to face into a bundle, or has another wire's label in the way. Sliding them along the wire an inch or two, and being able to rotate them would be an advantage, for me.

Charlie


On 8/1/2019 11:06 AM, Art Zemon wrote:

Quote:
You're right; it won't shrink enough for 22 AWG wire. Shrink some small, unmarked shrink tube on the wire. Then shrink your label over that.



    -- Art Z.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 10:45 AM Sebastien <cluros(at)gmail.com (cluros(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
I am going to be making a bunch of harnesses next week and would like to find a good solution for marking wires. I need to custom label very clear and specific markings on many wires to make it easy for the customer to install so I was thinking of getting a DYMO Printer and using their 1/4" Heat-Shrink. Has anyone used this system and would it work for 22 gauge wire? I'm afraid it either won't shrink down far enough to be secure on the wire or won't be readable once it does.

Thank you



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:28 pm    Post subject: Marking Wires Reply with quote

At 11:06 AM 8/1/2019, you wrote:
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You're right; it won't shrink enough for 22 AWG wire. Shrink some small, unmarked shrink tube on the wire. Then shrink your label over that.

Another option:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:34 pm    Post subject: Marking Wires Reply with quote

At 11:06 AM 8/1/2019, you wrote:
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You're right; it won't shrink enough for 22 AWG wire. Shrink some small, unmarked shrink tube on the wire. Then shrink your label over that.

Another option:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:55 pm    Post subject: Marking Wires Reply with quote

At 11:06 AM 8/1/2019, you wrote:
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You're right; it won't shrink enough for 22 AWG wire. Shrink some small, unmarked shrink tube on the wire. Then shrink your label over that.

Another option:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:17 pm    Post subject: Marking Wires Reply with quote

Sebastian,

I have used a DYMO printer for wire marking for years. Works great. Art’s suggestion for 22AWG should work for your teeny wire.

Blue skies & tailwinds,
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On Aug 1, 2019, at 09:25, Sebastien <cluros(at)gmail.com> wrote:

I am going to be making a bunch of harnesses next week and would like to find a good solution for marking wires. I need to custom label very clear and specific markings on many wires to make it easy for the customer to install so I was thinking of getting a DYMO Printer and using their 1/4" Heat-Shrink. Has anyone used this system and would it work for 22 gauge wire? I'm afraid it either won't shrink down far enough to be secure on the wire or won't be readable once it does.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:44 pm    Post subject: Marking Wires Reply with quote

I use 1/8” / 3mm shrink tubes for 22 ga wire. They can still be moved but they are fairly tight.

I have an old Bee 3+ labeler. (I think the latest Epson equivalent is the LW-PX900.)
Don’t think you can get tube that small for the Dymo.
Chuck

On Aug 1, 2019, at 11:06, Art Zemon <art(at)zemon.name (art(at)zemon.name)> wrote:
You're right; it won't shrink enough for 22 AWG wire. Shrink some small, unmarked shrink tube on the wire. Then shrink your label over that.

-- Art Z.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 10:45 AM Sebastien <cluros(at)gmail.com (cluros(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
I am going to be making a bunch of harnesses next week and would like to find a good solution for marking wires. I need to custom label very clear and specific markings on many wires to make it easy for the customer to install so I was thinking of getting a DYMO Printer and using their 1/4" Heat-Shrink. Has anyone used this system and would it work for 22 gauge wire? I'm afraid it either won't shrink down far enough to be secure on the wire or won't be readable once it does.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:00 pm    Post subject: Marking Wires Reply with quote

1/4" is the smallest for the Dymo. I think I'll order a bunch of clear heat shrink and use Bob's method.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 17:52 Chuck Birdsall <cbirdsall6(at)cox.net (cbirdsall6(at)cox.net)> wrote:

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I use 1/8” / 3mm shrink tubes for 22 ga wire. They can still be moved but they are fairly tight. 

I have an old Bee 3+ labeler. (I think the latest Epson equivalent is the LW-PX900.) 
Don’t think you can get tube that small for the Dymo. 
Chuck

On Aug 1, 2019, at 11:06, Art Zemon <art(at)zemon.name (art(at)zemon.name)> wrote:
You're right; it won't shrink enough for 22 AWG wire. Shrink some small, unmarked shrink tube on the wire. Then shrink your label over that.

    -- Art Z.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 10:45 AM Sebastien <cluros(at)gmail.com (cluros(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
I am going to be making a bunch of harnesses next week and would like to find a good solution for marking wires. I need to custom label very clear and specific markings on many wires to make it easy for the customer to install so I was thinking of getting a DYMO Printer and using their 1/4" Heat-Shrink. Has anyone used this system and would it work for 22 gauge wire? I'm afraid it either won't shrink down far enough to be secure on the wire or won't be readable once it does.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:14 pm    Post subject: Marking Wires Reply with quote

Kroy has a 1/8” shrink tube printer etc. I have found that the printing smears. After shrinking it shrink a clear over it

Rich

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On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:58 PM, Sebastien <cluros(at)gmail.com (cluros(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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1/4" is the smallest for the Dymo. I think I'll order a bunch of clear heat shrink and use Bob's method.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 17:52 Chuck Birdsall <cbirdsall6(at)cox.net (cbirdsall6(at)cox.net)> wrote:

Quote:
I use 1/8” / 3mm shrink tubes for 22 ga wire. They can still be moved but they are fairly tight.

I have an old Bee 3+ labeler. (I think the latest Epson equivalent is the LW-PX900.)
Don’t think you can get tube that small for the Dymo.
Chuck

On Aug 1, 2019, at 11:06, Art Zemon <art(at)zemon.name (art(at)zemon.name)> wrote:
You're right; it won't shrink enough for 22 AWG wire. Shrink some small, unmarked shrink tube on the wire. Then shrink your label over that.

-- Art Z.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 10:45 AM Sebastien <cluros(at)gmail.com (cluros(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
I am going to be making a bunch of harnesses next week and would like to find a good solution for marking wires. I need to custom label very clear and specific markings on many wires to make it easy for the customer to install so I was thinking of getting a DYMO Printer and using their 1/4" Heat-Shrink. Has anyone used this system and would it work for 22 gauge wire? I'm afraid it either won't shrink down far enough to be secure on the wire or won't be readable once it does.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:24 am    Post subject: Re: Marking Wires Reply with quote

I have a Rhino 4200. The 1/4" heat shrink tubing shrinks down to 22AWG okay. You can break it loose so it will slide. In fact, I made a tool to help slide the tubing on all sizes.

5 years later, still legible. Except in the engine compartment. Some of those are getting hard to read from dirt/oil/grease.

To save on the cost (and reduce the size of the labels), I use a wire numbering system:

Group/Device-Segment/Wire-Gauge

http://www.velocity-xl.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/2013-11-06-IMG_20131106_095231_784.jpg

This is the Nav/Strobe lights (L1). The red wire is the first wire for that device (1) and the first segment (A). And it's a 20AWG wire. On the other side of the connector is L1-1B-20. And if there's another it would be L1-1C-20.

The downside of course is that you have to have the document that describes all the wires.


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