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colind

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 32
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

Hi Guys!,



 I'm about to do a work stint in Thailand for the next couple of months

(there goes the building schedule), and was wondering if anyone knows of

any Kitfoxes flying in Thailand. If there are any there, I'd like to try

and make contact to see if I can both look over their a/c and, if

possible, do a bit of flying.

Regards



Colin Durey

Sydney

+61-418-677073 (M)

+61-2-945466162 (F)

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aeromer(at)ix.netcom.com
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

Is Michel Gordillo still on the Kitfox list?  I believe that he landed in Thailand on his epic Madrid to Oshkosh flight in 1998 and connected with some Kitfox builders in South Asia.  I have met Kitfoxers in many countries around the world.  A Google search usually comes up with aircraft type clubs, etc.  AeroMer N102KM (tail dragger with amphib floats in the near future)



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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

I really don't think very much of the child sex trade.



 On 8/19/06, WBL <aeromer(at)ix.netcom.com (aeromer(at)ix.netcom.com)> wrote: [quote]--> Kitfox-List message posted by: WBL <aeromer(at)ix.netcom.com  (aeromer(at)ix.netcom.com)>



Is Michel Gordillo still on the Kitfox list?  I believe that he landed in Thailand on his epic Madrid to Oshkosh flight in 1998 and connected with some Kitfox builders in South Asia.  I have met Kitfoxers in many countries around the world.  A Google search usually comes up with aircraft type clubs, etc.  AeroMer N102KM (tail dragger with amphib floats in the near future) 



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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

What  does this have to do with Kitfoxes?

  

 Do not  archive

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johngalt.0(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:17 am Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

Hello Lowell:

  

 Yes, I am unhappy when I see people contributing to the child sex trade industry. Doesn't matter to me if the party owns a kitfox or not! Kitfox ownership is not a get out of jail free card.

  

 I take it by the condescending tone of your message, those not willing to overpay for a used Kitfox are not allowed on this list? Like it or not, it is a buyer's market for airplanes, let alone experimentals. Doesn't matter what you ask for a product, what matters is what the buyer is willing to pay. It is a testament to feeble mindedness that someone would get hate mail for pricing their kitfox "too low".  

  

  

  

 



 

 On 8/21/06, Lowell Fitt <lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net (lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net)> wrote: [quote]John,  Just curious, what is your interest in the Kitfox list. It doesn't

seem that you have much knowledge regarding the airplane and your posts seem 

rather bitter in tone.  Are you unhappy?



Lowell

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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

John   

   

I don’t usually reply to statements such as yours. But I take offence to the fact that you may be suggesting that because a lot of us own a Kitfox we somehow contribute to what may be going on in Thailand. Innuendos such as this have no place on this list and suggest you curtail any further comments in this regard. That is my humble opinion.  

   

Ted Palamarek   

   

   

DO NOT ARCHIVE        

  

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Galt

 Sent: August 22, 2006 12:17 PM

 To: Lowell Fitt; kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Kitfox in Thailand?  

  

     

Hello Lowell:  

    

   

    

Yes, I am unhappy when I see people contributing to the child sex trade industry. Doesn't matter to me if the party owns a kitfox or not! Kitfox ownership is not a get out of jail free card.  

    

   

    

I take it by the condescending tone of your message, those not willing to overpay for a used Kitfox are not allowed on this list? Like it or not, it is a buyer's market for airplanes, let alone experimentals. Doesn't matter what you ask for a product, what matters is what the buyer is willing to pay. It is a testament to feeble mindedness that someone would get hate mail for pricing their kitfox "too low".   

    

   

    

   

    

   

    



 

    

    

On 8/21/06, Lowell Fitt <lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net (lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net)> wrote:   

John,  Just curious, what is your interest in the Kitfox list. It doesn't

 seem that you have much knowledge regarding the airplane and your posts seem 

 rather bitter in tone.  Are you unhappy?

 

 Lowell

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mscotter

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 49
Location: Winston-Salem, NC

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

Listen buddy, you need to look more closely at the message that you responded to, and then explain yourself and your comments.  The reference to Thailand was about a kitfox builder working there and another builder who had traveled there.  I (and others who have already replied) don’t appreciate your implication.  Either explain yourself or refrain from posting here again.  ‘Nuf said.  

   

Do not archive.  

         

  

From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Galt

 Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:17 PM

 To: Lowell Fitt; kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Kitfox in Thailand?  

  

     

Hello Lowell:  

    

   

    

Yes, I am unhappy when I see people contributing to the child sex trade industry. Doesn't matter to me if the party owns a kitfox or not! Kitfox ownership is not a get out of jail free card.  

    

   

    

I take it by the condescending tone of your message, those not willing to overpay for a used Kitfox are not allowed on this list? Like it or not, it is a buyer's market for airplanes, let alone experimentals. Doesn't matter what you ask for a product, what matters is what the buyer is willing to pay. It is a testament to feeble mindedness that someone would get hate mail for pricing their kitfox "too low".   

    

   

    

   

    

   

    



 

    

    

On 8/21/06, Lowell Fitt <lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net (lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net)> wrote:   

John,  Just curious, what is your interest in the Kitfox list. It doesn't

 seem that you have much knowledge regarding the airplane and your posts seem 

 rather bitter in tone.  Are you unhappy?

 

 Lowell

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dosmythe(at)cox.net
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

John,

 I've been on this list close to 11 years and have  known Lowell  for most of them.  I read your post and his.  Why  you compared child sex trade and a Kitfox on this list, I'll never  know.  The second part of the post talked about the price of a kitfox and  not being allowed on the list.  I was very confused about it all.   Also, Lowell's post did not sound condescending.  He basically only asked, What does this have to  do with a Kitfox? I started to ask the same question.  Occasionally,  we get into a big peeing contest over some misunderstood comment or  opinion.  I hope this is not the case.

  

 Don Smythe

 [quote]   Hello Lowell:

    

   <Doesn't matter to me if the party owns a kitfox or not! Kitfox    ownership is not a get out of jail free card.

    

   I take it by the condescending tone of your message, those not willing    to overpay for a used Kitfox are not allowed on this list? Like it or    not, it is a buyer's market 

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johngalt.0(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:17 am Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

Ahhhh... but you didn't see what he said off list regarding price controls and trying to beat kitfox sellers into "holding the line" on price let alone the insults he hurls at others who may own planes other then a kitfox currently. I realize these religious zealots exist in any vocation, so it will not cool my interest in kitfoxes. My sole point is the market sets the price, not some over zealous evangelist, no matter how well intentioned they may be. 

  

 With regards to the Thai comment, all I have to say is if you lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas. 

  

 Regards,

  

 John



 

 On 8/22/06, Don Smythe <dosmythe(at)cox.net (dosmythe(at)cox.net)> wrote: [quote]   John,

 I've been on this list close to 11 years and have known Lowell  for most of them.  I read your post and his.  Why you compared child sex trade and a Kitfox on this list, I'll never know.  The second part of the post talked about the price of a kitfox and not being allowed on the list.  I was very confused about it all.  Also, Lowell's post did not sound  condescending.  He basically only asked, What does this have to do with a Kitfox? I started to ask the same question.  Occasionally, we get into a big peeing contest over some misunderstood comment or opinion.  I hope this is not the case. 

  

 Don Smythe

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		   Hello Lowell:

	


   

 <Doesn't matter to me if the party owns a kitfox or not! Kitfox ownership is not a get out of jail free card.

  

 I take it by the condescending tone of your message, those not willing to overpay for a used Kitfox are not allowed on this list? Like it or not, it is a buyer's market 



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johngalt.0(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:26 am Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

Hello Ted:

  

 You misunderstood me. I am saying kitfox owners have the same responsiblities as the rest of society. That is what the "get out of jail free" comment was about. Owning a kitfox does not excuse ones actions, be they direct or indirect, in the bigger picture. 

  

 We clear?

  

 Thanks

  

 John



 

 On 8/22/06, Ted Palamarek <temco(at)telusplanet.net (temco(at)telusplanet.net)> wrote: [quote]    

John  

  

I don't usually reply to statements such as yours. But I take offence to the fact that you may be suggesting that because a lot of us own a Kitfox we somehow contribute to what may be going on in Thailand. Innuendos such as this have no place on this list and suggest you curtail any further comments in this regard. That is my humble opinion.  

  

Ted Palamarek  

  

     

 

From:  owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com)]  On Behalf Of John Galt

Sent: August 22, 2006 12:17 PM

To: Lowell Fitt;  kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)

 

Subject: Re: Kitfox in Thailand?

  

  

   

Hello Lowell:

  

 

  

Yes, I am unhappy when I see people contributing to the child sex trade industry. Doesn't matter to me if the party owns a kitfox or not! Kitfox ownership is not a get out of jail free card. 

  

 

  

I take it by the condescending tone of your message, those not willing to overpay for a used Kitfox are not allowed on this list? Like it or not, it is a buyer's market for airplanes, let alone experimentals. Doesn't matter what you ask for a product, what matters is what the buyer is willing to pay. It is a testament to feeble mindedness that someone would get hate mail for pricing their kitfox "too low".  

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

On 8/21/06, Lowell Fitt < lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net (lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net)> wrote:  

John,  Just curious, what is your interest in the Kitfox list. It doesn't

seem that you have much knowledge regarding the airplane and your posts seem  

rather bitter in tone.  Are you unhappy?



Lowell

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:17 am Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

What is the relation between child sex trade industry

and a Kitfox?  Is it this being discussed in the right

forum?  I don't think so!



José



--- John Galt <johngalt.0(at)gmail.com> wrote:



[quote] Hello Ted:

 

 You misunderstood me. I am saying kitfox owners have

 the same

 responsiblities as the rest of society. That is what

 the "get out of jail

 free" comment was about. Owning a kitfox does not

 excuse ones actions, be

 they direct or indirect, in the bigger picture.

 

 We clear?

 

 Thanks

 

 John

 

 

 On 8/22/06, Ted Palamarek <temco(at)telusplanet.net>

 wrote:

 >

 >   John

 >

 >

 >

 > I don't usually reply to statements such as yours.

 But I take offence to

 > the fact that you may be suggesting that because a

 lot of us own a Kitfox we

 > somehow contribute to what may be going on in

 Thailand. Innuendos such as

 > this have no place on this list and suggest you

 curtail any further comments

 > in this regard. That is my humble opinion.

 >

 >

 >

 > Ted Palamarek

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >  ------------------------------

 >

 > *From:* owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com

 [mailto:

 > owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf

 Of *John Galt

 > *Sent:* August 22, 2006 12:17 PM

 > *To:* Lowell Fitt; kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 >

 > *Subject:* Re: Kitfox in Thailand?

 >

 >

 >

 > Hello Lowell:

 >

 >

 >

 > Yes, I am unhappy when I see people contributing

 to the child sex trade

 > industry. Doesn't matter to me if the party owns a

 kitfox or not! Kitfox

 > ownership is not a get out of jail free card.

 >

 >

 >

 > I take it by the condescending tone of your

 message, those not willing

 > to overpay for a used Kitfox are not allowed on

 this list? Like it or not,

 > it is a buyer's market for airplanes, let alone

 experimentals. Doesn't

 > matter what you ask for a product, what matters is

 what the buyer is willing

 > to pay. It is a testament to feeble mindedness

 that someone would get hate

 > mail for pricing their kitfox "too low".

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 >

 > On 8/21/06, *Lowell Fitt* <lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net>

 wrote:

 >

 > John,  Just curious, what is your interest in the

 Kitfox list. It doesn't

 > seem that you have much knowledge regarding the

 airplane and your posts

 > seem

 > rather bitter in tone.  Are you unhappy?

 >

 > Lowell

 > ---

dosmythe(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:53 am Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

From: John Galt (johngalt.0(at)gmail.com) 

  	  Quote: 	
		     I realize these religious zealots exist in any    vocation, so it will not cool my interest in kitfoxes. My sole point is the    market sets the price, not some over zealous evangelist, no matter how well    intentioned they may be. 

    

   RELIGIOUS    ZEALOTS...........ZEALOUS EVANGELIST...

   I don't think    I'll respond anymore to this.  No telling what I'll hear next.  Fly    alone young man.

    

   Don    Smythe

	
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runwayrex(at)juno.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

John Galt, 

  Have you checked into some good counseling in your area? Nobody on this list seems to have a clue how you have connected Kifox flyers with sex trade and/or religious zealots. I would guess that this issue isn't the only termoil you have going on in your head. Please stay off of this forum unless you're here for the intended purpose. 

Rex in Michigan



-- "Don Smythe" <dosmythe(at)cox.net> wrote:

  From: John Galt (johngalt.0(at)gmail.com) 

  	  Quote: 	
		   I realize these religious zealots exist in any vocation, so it will not cool my interest in kitfoxes. My sole point is the market sets the price, not some over zealous evangelist, no matter how well intentioned they may be. 

  

 RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS...........ZEALOUS EVANGELIST...

 I don't think I'll respond anymore to this.  No telling what I'll hear next.  Fly alone young man.

  

 Don Smythe

	
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RichWill

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: Kitfox in Thailand?

So...to get back to the original question.. Yes, there are some Kitfoxes in Thailand. I go work/go there often for my job.. I travel between Bangkok and Laem Chabang Industrial zone near Pattaya Beach.. There is a small airport just outside of Pattaya where I have seen small "kit type" aircraft.. Its on the right head south towards Pattaya,, maybe 30KMs out..



Try there and good luck.. I will be there again in Sept and may stop by myself..



Rich

johngalt.0(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

Thanks Rich.



 On 8/23/06, RichWill <rwill1(at)adelphia.net (rwill1(at)adelphia.net)> wrote: [quote]--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "RichWill" <rwill1(at)adelphia.net  (rwill1(at)adelphia.net)>



So...to get back to the original question.. Yes, there are some Kitfoxes in Thailand. I go work/go there often for my job.. I travel between Bangkok and Laem Chabang Industrial zone near Pattaya Beach.. There is a small airport just outside of Pattaya where I have seen small "kit type" aircraft.. Its on the right head south towards Pattaya,, maybe 30KMs out.. 



Try there and good luck.. I will be there again in Sept and may stop by myself..



Rich



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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

Gosh Rex, is it permissable to you if I look for Kitfoxes to buy or is even that frowned upon by the list crumogeons on here? Too bad you were not reading the thread, you would have figured out what I  was talking about. I was objecting to the list zealots attacking a man (not me) for "pricing his kitfox too low". If anyone needs counseling, it is them. Or perhaps a one way ticket to Thailand. 

  

 

 

 On 8/23/06, Rexster <runwayrex(at)juno.com (runwayrex(at)juno.com)> wrote:   [quote]  

John Galt, 

  Have you checked into some good counseling in your area? Nobody on this list seems to have a clue how you have connected Kifox flyers with sex trade and/or religious zealots. I would guess that this issue isn't the only termoil you have going on in your head. Please stay off of this forum unless you're here for the intended purpose.   

Rex in Michigan



-- "Don Smythe" <dosmythe(at)cox.net (dosmythe(at)cox.net)> wrote:



  From: John Galt (johngalt.0(at)gmail.com) 

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		   I realize these religious zealots exist in any vocation, so it will not cool my interest in kitfoxes. My sole point is the market sets the price, not some over zealous evangelist, no matter how well intentioned they may be.  

  

 RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS...........ZEALOUS EVANGELIST...

 I don't think I'll respond anymore to this.  No telling what I'll hear next.  Fly alone young man.

  

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Float Flyr

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

Consider that some people, I'm  one, who didn't figure out your original comment in relation  pricing a plane.  Consider also the ire, make that blind rage, the words  "child sex trade", would invoke!

  

 Maybe it's time to close the  book on this one. 

  

 You can buy my model III-A  582"B" box w/ Ivo in flight three blade UL Aerocet floats and straight skis  wheels if you want 'em.....  Bring money..... Big  MONEY!

 

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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

Yeap, the other poster did not like my comment that it is a buyers market out there, let alone for experimentals. Big money? You mean in the $14K range?

  

 



 

 On 8/23/06, Noel Loveys <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca (noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca)> wrote: [quote]   Consider that some people, I'm one, who didn't figure out your original comment in relation pricing a plane.  Consider also the ire, make that blind rage, the words "child sex trade", would invoke! 

  

 Maybe it's time to close the book on this one. 

  

 You can buy my model III-A 582"B" box w/ Ivo in flight three blade UL Aerocet floats and straight skis wheels if you want 'em.....  Bring money..... Big MONEY!

 

Noel [quote] 

 

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Float Flyr

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Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:01 pm Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

Not even  warm!

  

  

 

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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: Kitfox in Thailand?

Guess you'll be quick to sell it with that attitude.



 On 8/24/06, Noel Loveys <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca (noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca)> wrote: [quote]   Not even warm!

  

  

 

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