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		Ralph Hoover
 
  
  Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 206 Location: Central Ohio
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: This is your Captain speaking! | 
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				Many if not most of you other free spirited drivers will enjoy this sound tape. Since it is rather small and is sound only, you slow hook-up individuals can access it also.
 
 Very fitting in the light of all the bad guys with guns and the regular joes unable to defend themselves.
 
 Packing at our airport here in Ohio, Ralph.
 
 http://www.micom.net/oops/PilotGuns.mp3
 
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		John Williamson
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: This is your Captain speaking! | 
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				Hey Ralph,
 
 What is the relevance to anything Kolb related.
 
 We all have access to the internet and can find that kind of stuff for ourselves.
 
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  _________________ John Williamson
 
Arlington, TX
 
 
Kolbra, 912ULS, 1640 hours
 
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		wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:46 am    Post subject: This is your Captain speaking! | 
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				IT'S "FLIGHT" RELATED FOR GOSH SAKE!!!!
 
 IT'S ALSO VERY FUNNY.
 
 LIGHTEN UP.
 
 THIS SITE IS FOR "PILOTS"
 
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		FS2Kolb(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:07 am    Post subject: This is your Captain speaking! | 
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				From the Kolb-List Usage Guidelines;
   
 The purpose of the Kolb-List is to provide a forum of  discussion for 
 things related to this particular discussion group.  The List's  goals 
 are to serve as an information resource to its members;  to deliver 
 high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster  camaraderie 
 among its members; and to support safe operation.  Reaching these goals   
 requires the participation and cooperation of each and  every member of  
 the List.  To  this end, the following guidelines have been  established: 
   
 - Please keep all posts related to the List at some  level.  Do not  submit 
 posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long 
 lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
 
  In a message dated 10/6/2006 12:47:11 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  wcm(at)tampabay.rr.com writes:
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 IT'S "FLIGHT" RELATED FOR GOSH    SAKE!!!!
 
 IT'S ALSO VERY FUNNY.
 
 LIGHTEN UP.
 
 THIS SITE IS    FOR "PILOTS"
 
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		Ralph Hoover
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: This is your Captain speaking! | 
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				Well excuse me!
 O. R.
 
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		a58r(at)verizon.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: This is your Captain speaking! | 
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				Cap'n., In your list-be-nots, you left out an more sinister object: the quoting ad nauseum of the post(s) under scrutiny. Just a precis should be sufficient, especially when the thread threatens to become a hawser.
 
 eye, eye, and a short arm salute
      
 regards,
 Bob N.    FireFly 070 Old Kolb
 http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
 
  
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: This is your Captain speaking! | 
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				s/b "a more"
 and Do Not Archive
 
 regards,
 Bob N.    FireFly 070 Old Kolb
 http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
 do not archive
 
  
 
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		planecrazzzy Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:33 pm    Post subject: Re: This is your Captain speaking! | 
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				Hey "Drill Seargent",
 
  I carry a "Gun" with me EVERYTIME I Fly....
  " This is my WEAPON ,   This is my GUN...
 
  This I Shoot with , This I have Fun "
    Gotta Fly...
  Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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		mmatuszczak(at)cfl.rr.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: This is your Captain speaking! | 
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				Ditto on the lighten up
 
 Remember the FUN part of Fly for Fun?
 
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		Ralph Hoover
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: This is your Captain speaking! | 
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				Well your all right. Do not archive. I carry, and I am an instructor in Ohio and do carry in my plane and all our drivers carry at our field. I drive a Kolb.
 
 I believe that covers all areas of conversation, short of the Big gumn is a 1911 Colt full size military issue firing Plus P Powerballs. The double barreled Darenger is out of Texas and is  known as the Bond Arm snake killer. It is a Colt LOng and 410 slug pistol, good for apporximatly 15 feet with accuracy.
 
 Oh Ralph
 
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		jsflan(at)valornet.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:46 am    Post subject: This is your Captain speaking! | 
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				Not too excited about all the asides; some just bore me, and usually I am 
 viewing the list to learn more about getting the red recalcitrant Kolb 
 safely airborne and back again with me aboard and packing, but packing 
 camera or cameras  when upstairs. Found  long ago that there is this little 
 gadget built in computer programs called "Delete" a cousin to the "Blab off" 
 or "Mute" button on the TV  to allay the unwanted. It works. I use it.
 
 That aside; on a flight from Nairobi to Addis  Ababa, I learned the 
 Ethiopian, trim, green-jacketed guys who checked my luggage carefully and 
 visually also carried it to the plane then flew to Addis with us as 
 stewards. A few weeks before, I learned, a "terr'ist" tried to take over one 
 of their planes and they merely carved him to pieces.
 
 Wonder, Russ, what a .22 hp would do passing through the aluminum and how 
 that might effect depressurization of a 757 at 35 grand...?  I don't know 
 too many airline pilots who are trained with weapons and I haven't met any 
 of the sky marshals, that I know  of. Not sure what they pack, or what their 
 groundrules are on type bullets or calibers or use.
 
 Now, should I fly the Mark III  with that gigantic vertical trim removed or 
 not? Taxied and hot taxied  and seemed like I had some rudder effect on the 
 ground without  the 12x7" hunk of bent aluminum on the tail...?  What's the 
 worst scenario?
 
 jsf
 
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		lcottrell
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:13 am    Post subject: This is your Captain speaking! | 
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				You might try it without the rudder trimtab. My Firestar doesn't have or 
 need one, a Mark III that I owned for a while did not have or need one. By 
 all means leave it off if you can. The worst that is going to happen is that 
 you will have to hold some right rudder to keep going straight.
 Larry, Oregon
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		jsflan(at)valornet.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:35 pm    Post subject: This is your Captain speaking! | 
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				Thanks Larry, exactly  what I thought,   I was holding a heavy foot of right 
 rudder before I got the red one trimmed over time. Dennis in ABQ said if I 
 were still holding right rudder with that trim tab on, it should probably be 
 turned to the opposite direction. Makes sense. So I took it off as an 
 intermediate step. One friend who runs Intermountain Air in SLC, Utah,  an 
 A&P, builder and really knowledgeable guy, Arnie Richins,  said a beveled 
 length of balsa taped to vertical trailing edge of rudder with "fat" edge 
 back would be a good test and could be added easily to whichever side needed 
 it and even  painted to match if it became a permanent fixture.
 
 jsf
 
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