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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: The difference in Teflon wire?

Tim,



I noticed form your web site that you recommend Wire Masters.



Do you know the difference between the two types of Teflon wire:



Teflon 22759-PTFE

(Polytetrafloroethylene)

Teflon 16878 -PTFE



The numbers mean nothing to me.



Thanks,



John G.

rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject: The difference in Teflon wire?

Teflon can be difficult to work with.  Harder to strip primarily.



Michael 



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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: The difference in Teflon wire?

They were just a good supplier for me.

I don't know the differences off hand, as I only really read

up on the 22759...but it's the 22759 that you want.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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John Gonzalez wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Tim,

 

 I noticed form your web site that you recommend Wire Masters.

 

 Do you know the difference between the two types of Teflon wire:

 

 Teflon 22759-PTFE

 (Polytetrafloroethylene)

 Teflon 16878 -PTFE

 

 The numbers mean nothing to me.

 

 Thanks,

 

 John G.

indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: The difference in Teflon wire?

A little slippery is it.



Okay, so which tefzel wire is needed or what is the difference in these.

    Tefzel-ETFE

(Ethylene Tetrafluoroethylene)

Cross-Linked Tefzel-XL-ETFE



Thanks,



John G.





[quote]From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder(at)sausen.net>

Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE: The difference in Teflon wire?

Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:09:48 -0600




<rvbuilder(at)sausen.net>



Teflon can be difficult to work with.  Harder to strip primarily.



Michael



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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject: The difference in Teflon wire?

To help strip teflon (or any other slippery insulation) once the 

insulation is cut, use a large alligator boot to grip the insulation so 

you can pull it off.  Or get one of the nifty automatic strippers 

that'll cut an pul;l off the insulation all in one lick.

Linn



RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:



[quote]



Teflon can be difficult to work with.  Harder to strip primarily.



Michael 



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stein(at)steinair.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:57 pm Post subject: The difference in Teflon wire?

You don't want any "PTFE" wire...only "ETFE"...which is Tefzel

(crosslinked).



The "22759" number on it's own is almost worthlesss, because there is both

teflon and tefzel in that mil spec.  The important number is the "slant" or

"/" numer, in this case /16...so you want to get M22759/16-xx-xx (x=the wire

size, and y=color).  There are a LOT of other slant number out there, but

some are silver plating, different stranding, different conductors, etc..



Also, the 16878 number is also a good one depending on the slant

number...you can just use that main first Mil Spec number as your guide.

I'll say it again...save yourself some time and just buy it from someone who

already has done the research ----hint, hint, hint!  Also, just for an FYI

or records, the mil spec for the shielded cable is M27500-TE(or

TG)2T22-xxxxxxxx which is a bunch of other gobblteygook that tells you

sizing, stranding, color, inner jacket size & type, etc...



OK, enough stumping.  Teflon has several less desirable properties over

Tefzel.  Michael Sausen eluded to the stripping, and that it's a lot more

slippery.  I also has poor cold flow characteristics, which means in large

bundles it can and will slowly flow around things like zip ties, etc...



Anyway, go with tefzel that is the correct mil spec and you'll be fine.



Cheers,

Stein.



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N777TY

Joined: 09 Apr 2006
Posts: 69
Location: Charlotte, NC

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: The difference in Teflon wire?

Why not just order from Stein and not worry about these numbers?  He's got the stuff that you need/want... it'll be painless buying from him.

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Rick S.

Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 347
Location: Las Vegas

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject: The difference in Teflon wire?

Uh Oh...



RV-7 guy surfing in who is a STEIN fan..... 



FWIW....nothing against our flavofav Stein...Wiremasters has some great prices....you just need to know how to read the specs...in that aspect....if you don't know...call Stein.



Rick S.

40185



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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:44 pm Post subject: The difference in Teflon wire?

Thank you for your time.



I have your number too, and I planned on contacting you for several items 

and this may be another.



JOhn G.

[quote]From: "SteinAir, Inc." <stein(at)steinair.com>

Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE: The difference in Teflon wire?

Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 16:53:57 -0600






You don't want any "PTFE" wire...only "ETFE"...which is Tefzel

(crosslinked).



The "22759" number on it's own is almost worthlesss, because there is both

teflon and tefzel in that mil spec.  The important number is the "slant" or

"/" numer, in this case /16...so you want to get M22759/16-xx-xx (x=the 

wire

size, and y=color).  There are a LOT of other slant number out there, but

some are silver plating, different stranding, different conductors, etc..



Also, the 16878 number is also a good one depending on the slant

number...you can just use that main first Mil Spec number as your guide.

I'll say it again...save yourself some time and just buy it from someone 

who

already has done the research ----hint, hint, hint!  Also, just for an FYI

or records, the mil spec for the shielded cable is M27500-TE(or

TG)2T22-xxxxxxxx which is a bunch of other gobblteygook that tells you

sizing, stranding, color, inner jacket size & type, etc...



OK, enough stumping.  Teflon has several less desirable properties over

Tefzel.  Michael Sausen eluded to the stripping, and that it's a lot more

slippery.  I also has poor cold flow characteristics, which means in large

bundles it can and will slowly flow around things like zip ties, etc...



Anyway, go with tefzel that is the correct mil spec and you'll be fine.



Cheers,

Stein.



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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject: The difference in Teflon wire?

To help strip teflon (or any other slippery insulation) once the 

insulation is cut, use a large alligator boot to grip the insulation so 

you can pull it off.  Or get one of the nifty automatic strippers 

that'll cut an pul;l off the insulation all in one lick.

Linn

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RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:



[quote]



Teflon can be difficult to work with.  Harder to strip primarily.



Michael 



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