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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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 Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject: De Burring war! No, Tunnel question. |
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No body truly answerred my question the other day. Every answer was about
the heat in the tunnel, but what I was after is:
Did anyone use the tunnel to run any, any of their electrical cables and
wire. yah sure I have the side panels openned up but if I run that fatboy
wire or whatever it is a called, I am going to be using up some serious
space.
I have not gotten to the build area where I know whether there is really
space in the upper left and right corners of the tunnel, beneath the lid.
First is there room and second would it be cool enough to run wire in there?
Thanks,
John G
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Deems Davis
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject: De Burring war! No, Tunnel question. |
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John, I didn't run any wires in the tunnel, I believe that Mike Sausen
ran (or is planning on running his #2 Battery /Starter wire/s in his
tunnel, however I think he ran them lower next to the fuel lines. (check
his web site on Kitlog.com) I know that a couple of people that have
installed air conditioning systems have run the compressor hoses inside
the tunnel. One consideration is that you need to drill through the
centersection spars if you're going to run wire in there. It gets pretty
crowded in there with Scat tubes, fuel lines and control linkages, seems
like adding more 'stuff' in an already crowded space would be more
difficult than running them down the side. JMHO
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
Trying to align wheel pants/fairings (a game of chance!)
John Gonzalez wrote:
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No body truly answerred my question the other day. Every answer was
about the heat in the tunnel, but what I was after is:
Did anyone use the tunnel to run any, any of their electrical cables
and wire. yah sure I have the side panels openned up but if I run that
fatboy wire or whatever it is a called, I am going to be using up some
serious space.
I have not gotten to the build area where I know whether there is
really space in the upper left and right corners of the tunnel,
beneath the lid. First is there room and second would it be cool
enough to run wire in there?
Thanks,
John G
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Randy(at)abros.com
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: De Burring war! No, Tunnel question. |
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I did not run any wires from front to back using the tunnel. I just
drilled a couple of extra holes to match the holes in the fuse. Randy
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jesse(at)itecusa.org
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:10 pm Post subject: De Burring war! No, Tunnel question. |
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My vote would be that it is best to keep it out of the tunnel if you can.
The only thing I would run would be low The heat is one issue, of course.
The next issue is the amount of moving parts in there that you would have to
avoid (ie. Elevator controls, flap controls, rudder cables). The third
issue would be the fact that you would have to have quite a few screws into
the side of the tunnel to hold the wires in cushion clamps. Another issue
is that there is fuel in there so it would be wise to avoid having too many
things that could cause a spark with the fuel lines. I know that if the
fuel is leaking it probably will cause problems anyway and that a spark
probably would not effect non-leaking fuel lines, but I would personally
prefer not to add that potential danger.
Just IMHO so do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org
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C: 352-427-0285
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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: De Burring war! No, Tunnel question. |
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All very valid points.
Thank you.
[quote]From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse(at)itecusa.org>
Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: RE: De Burring war! No, Tunnel question.
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:08:25 -0500
My vote would be that it is best to keep it out of the tunnel if you can.
The only thing I would run would be low The heat is one issue, of course.
The next issue is the amount of moving parts in there that you would have
to
avoid (ie. Elevator controls, flap controls, rudder cables). The third
issue would be the fact that you would have to have quite a few screws into
the side of the tunnel to hold the wires in cushion clamps. Another issue
is that there is fuel in there so it would be wise to avoid having too many
things that could cause a spark with the fuel lines. I know that if the
fuel is leaking it probably will cause problems anyway and that a spark
probably would not effect non-leaking fuel lines, but I would personally
prefer not to add that potential danger.
Just IMHO so do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
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ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject: De Burring war! No, Tunnel question. |
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I located my GRT AHRS and Magnetometer on a shelf behind the baggage compartment (away from the battery). I planned for the aft wiring runs to the AHRS and for the static plumbing forward from the static ports. But I forgot that the pitot plumbing also needed to go aft to the AHRS. No space left in the conduits, so I will need to run the pitot line in the tunnel aft to the tailcone intersection.
When planning your conduit, don't forget the pressure lines.
Ron
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VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject: De Burring war! No, Tunnel question. |
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Just with the tunnel heat we got 4 feet of Koolmat and stuck it to the
firewall....the excess we put on the tunnel floor and rear firewall at
tunnel area only. The wires ran in the tunnel are only the ones that Van has
in the plans.
I know only some have tunnel heat problems but for a little weight and cost
should help with any heat problems. As for running wires to the rear in the
tunnel a little common sense and think what if. Your the builder. So I think
we all agree.
Chris
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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: De Burring war! No, Tunnel question. |
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Rudder cables go in the upper corners. You may find tiny bits
of space for running wires, but for many uses, the tunnel
is useless. If you run things there, secure them all over
the place since your controls run through there and you
don't want something hanging them up.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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John Gonzalez wrote:
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No body truly answerred my question the other day. Every answer was
about the heat in the tunnel, but what I was after is:
Did anyone use the tunnel to run any, any of their electrical cables and
wire. yah sure I have the side panels openned up but if I run that
fatboy wire or whatever it is a called, I am going to be using up some
serious space.
I have not gotten to the build area where I know whether there is really
space in the upper left and right corners of the tunnel, beneath the
lid. First is there room and second would it be cool enough to run wire
in there?
Thanks,
John G
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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: De Burring war! No, Tunnel question. |
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Cool! Battery + fuel lines in close prox. That'll be
interesting. 
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Deems Davis wrote:
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John, I didn't run any wires in the tunnel, I believe that Mike Sausen
ran (or is planning on running his #2 Battery /Starter wire/s in his
tunnel, however I think he ran them lower next to the fuel lines. (check
his web site on Kitlog.com) I know that a couple of people that have
installed air conditioning systems have run the compressor hoses inside
the tunnel. One consideration is that you need to drill through the
centersection spars if you're going to run wire in there. It gets pretty
crowded in there with Scat tubes, fuel lines and control linkages, seems
like adding more 'stuff' in an already crowded space would be more
difficult than running them down the side. JMHO
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
Trying to align wheel pants/fairings (a game of chance!)
John Gonzalez wrote:
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> No body truly answerred my question the other day. Every answer was
> about the heat in the tunnel, but what I was after is:
>
> Did anyone use the tunnel to run any, any of their electrical cables
> and wire. yah sure I have the side panels openned up but if I run that
> fatboy wire or whatever it is a called, I am going to be using up some
> serious space.
>
> I have not gotten to the build area where I know whether there is
> really space in the upper left and right corners of the tunnel,
> beneath the lid. First is there room and second would it be cool
> enough to run wire in there?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John G
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