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bryanmmartin

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1018

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject: odd and ends

Much of that space is used by the upper elevator cable and I have  

wiring harnesses passing though there. You might be able to build in  

a small storage compartment in the panel above and behind the arm  

rest under the baggage shelf. Or you can make the arm rest a few  

inches deeper and put a storage space in the extra depth.



On Dec 23, 2006, at 2:47 PM, Terry Phillips wrote:



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 John



 I haven't started building yet, in fact, I'm awaiting delivery of  

 my 601 plans. However, consider the drawing 6-B-18 that is  

 available on ZAC's website. It looks to me like there is a vacant  

 space measuring about 15" long x 5" deep x ~5" wide located in the  

 center console, above the joystick linkage.


	




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Bryan Martin

N61BM, CH 601 XL,

RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.

do not archive.

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N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive.

nyterminat(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject: odd and ends

Ed,

    

   Save yourself the installation of the hobbs, the Tinytach has an hour meter built in.

    

   Bob Spudis

   N701ZX/95hrs

   do not archive 

    

  

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nyterminat(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:36 pm Post subject: odd and ends

Craig

    

   The TinyTach is self powered and requires no connections to the battery. It is a neat little unit, I installed one in my 701 because I was getting wrong tach readings from my Stratomaster E-1. The software was incorrect in the E-1 and has since been rectified, both register within 5-10 rpm. Without the engine running you will see the hobbs part and as soon as the enginge starts, the tach shows on the display. I probably watch the TinyTach more than the E-1 for RPM.

    

   Bob Spudis

   N701ZX/912S/95hrs 

    

  

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dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:42 am Post subject: odd and ends

Thanks, Bob. I actually had forgotten that. 

  

 Merry Christmas,

  

 Ed

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: odd and ends

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		  > i would like to suggest you replace your ASI backup  with an angle of

attack gauge...
	




Now that is an interesting idea. I suppose I could share the probe between

the mechanical AOA gauge and the AOA inputs on the Enigma. I like having the

one in the Enigma because it will generate a voice alarm in an imminent

stall situation. But the simple differential pressure gauge would be a

fairly bomb-proof backup.



What is it like to fly an approach with an AOA indicator? Since all my

training is in conventional aircraft with no AOA I was trained to fly my

approach by the numbers (RPM, flaps, airspeed). With the AOA do you throttle

back and add flaps at the usual points and pitch for a given amount of lift

instead of pitching for a certain airspeed?



-- Craig

ggower_99(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: odd and ends

Hello Craig,



We have a LRI  (Lift Reserve Indiactor)  instaled in our 701,   I like it and use it in all my landings,  I have a "point" in the needle where I make my aproach and seldom look at the airpeed,  Is a great help.  



My brother Larry is a more natural flyer,  is the pants of the seat type of pilot,  hope I was a little like him,  He goes for the speed aproach...



I once had to make a landing with 8 -10 mph tailwind, because an obstruction in the "good" side of the strip,  a blown tyre and cartwheeled airplane.

I just focus  in the LRI and greesed it...  I like it very much.



Here is a page of one pilot with a RV...  His page is well writen:



http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/liftreserve.htm



Hope you enjoy.



Saludos

Gary Gower

701 912S

Flying from Chapala, Mexico,

Craig Payne <craig(at)craigandjean.com>  wrote:[quote] --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" 



 	  Quote: 	
		  > i would like to suggest you replace your ASI backup  with an angle of

attack gauge...
	




Now that is an interesting idea. I suppose I could share the probe between

the mechanical AOA gauge and the AOA inputs on the Enigma. I like having the

one in the Enigma because it will generate a voice alarm in an imminent

stall situation. But the simple differential pressure gauge would be a

fairly bomb-proof backup.



What is it like to fly an approach with an AOA indicator? Since all my

training is in conventional aircraft with no AOA I was trained to fly my

approach by the numbers (RPM, flaps, airspeed). With the AOA do you throttle

back and add flaps at the usual points and pitch for a given amount of lift

instead of pitching for a [quote][b]

steveadams

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 191

Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:51 am Post subject: Re: odd and ends

Concerning the sharpie marker removal. If you want to save an extra step and extra exposure to solvents, the sharpie marks will come off when you prep the metal for painting. Alumiprep or any of the acid washes used to prep the metal remove the marks. No need for an extra step IMHO.

amyvega2005(at)earthlink.
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:27 am Post subject: odd and ends

Ed,



I have an EFIS EIS GPS system, not steam guages.  For me, round gauages good as a security blanket, however most EFIS have a 4 hour battery back up.  in case of panel black out,  compass is all that is needed for me I found.  I fly the plane by sound for RPM and speed.  The RPM and trim dictate the speed so I fly all my aircraft with trim set to land.  thus plan will fly the trim speed.  Just the way I was taught, not the solution to some.  



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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: odd and ends

All, FWIW-

    I thought you HAD to have a whiskey compass. I agree with Juan re: 

airspeed indicator, and figure the primary backup to be a steam gauge 

altimeter.

    For all the more total hours I have in my logbook, I've been in 2 life 

or death emergency situations. The main thing you need is self control. All 

the stories about vertigo, "The Leans" and panic are true. Don't know what 

else to say but fly the plane down. Hopefully, so you taxi into your hangar 

where you can empty your pants with relative dignity.

                                    do not archive

Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville, Pa



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ggower_99(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject: odd and ends

Hello Juan,



Good post,  just one thing...  Can you elaborate about  flying with trim to land...

I will like to know more about it, 



Saludos

Gary Gower

Flying from Chapala, Mexico.

Juan Vega <amyvega2005(at)earthlink.net> wrote:[quote] --> Zenith-List message posted by: Juan Vega 



Ed,



I have an EFIS EIS GPS system, not steam guages.  For me, round gauages good as a security blanket, however most EFIS have a 4 hour battery back up.  in case of panel black out,  compass is all that is needed for me I found.  I fly the plane by sound for RPM and speed.  The RPM and trim dictate the speed so I fly all my aircraft with trim set to land.  thus plan will fly the trim speed.  Just the way I was taught, not the solution to some.  



-----Original  Message-----

[quote]From: Edward Moody II 

Sent: Dec 23, 2006 7:44 PM

To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: odd and ends



First I should thank you for the confidence you place in my ability to choose an EFIS/EIS that can never fail (my attempt at aircraft construction humor). I believe that anyone who uses a glass panel as primary instrumentation and does not give himself a few critical backups is whistling past the graveyard. My opinion is that I need a whiskey compass if the electrical system is shut down (my gps eats batteries like a dog eats bacon), an ASI to fly a safe approach, a tach to manage the engine safely, and my GPS can give me ALT if that's critical (if the electrical power is off, I'm screwed on that one). The EIS does include an engine hour meter but the Hobbs is a backup incase the memory in the unit gets fried. I know, I know, next you'll ask if I wear a belt and suspenders (I only [quote][b]

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