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		firebug
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? | 
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				I did good to ask this question. [as he pats himself on the back] This has been nice to found out what makes these kolbs fly[MONEY] and how we make it.
 
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		planecrazzzy Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Different occupations of Kolbers? | 
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				Your close......
  It takes TWO things to fly.....
 
  Airspeed and Money....
 
                                      Gotta Fly...
                                                      Mike in MN FSII / N381PM
                             
 
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		rswiderski(at)earthlink.n Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:34 pm    Post subject: Different occupations of Kolbers? | 
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				I sent this earlier & it never posted, here's a 2nd try.
 	After high school, I repaired the county schools' audio/visual
 equipment & managed a gas station/garage.  During college I welded up
 nuclear trigger devices for Martin Merietta. Got my BS degree in Chemistry.
 Built houses for a year then went back & got a Masters & Specialist in
 counseling. I did counseling for 2 years, then went into ministry for the
 next 17 years, mostly working with youth, but also coordinating the adult
 education & family retreats. Then I spent 2 years teaching kids with
 learning & emotional problems.  For the last 6 years I have been teaching
 math to incarcerated teenage boys.
 	My wife of 30 years is a gift that has greatly exceeded what I
 dreamt for as a young buck, and as each year goes by, I am continued to be
 surprised by the treasure she is.  We have 2 children, a daughter who is a
 teacher  a precious
 granddaughter & another grandchild on the way.
 	God has blessed my life richly, he has even seen fit to grant my
 life long dream -- I have a home in the quiet country on ten acres with a
 shop and access to a 4000ft grass strip.  
 
 Richard Swiderski
 Ocala FL
 SlingShot, TurboSuzuki
 
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		Roger Lee
 
 
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		flyingfox(at)copper.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:23 am    Post subject: Different occupations of Kolbers? | 
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				Yeah they do fly on money but let me tell you, the 'cheap to fly' 172 that I
 first bought cost me $10,000 at first annual and there was nothing visible
 changed to the airplane. It suddenly dawned on me that all that flying I do
 in Army helicopters and civilian King Air's is backed up by someone in a
 hangar spending a lot of someone else's money.
 
 I believe it was at that point in February of 2000 that I made the
 subconscious decision to at least reduce the sting by getting something that
 I could fix myself. My first foray into the avionics shop to get my ADF
 looked at  cost me $3000, for an ADF!?!
 
 They not only repaired something I asked for an estimate on by they charged
 a shop rate of over $70 an hour. Oh they did pull their Dymo labeler out and
 made pretty labels for my circuit breakers and avionics master switch but,
 was it worth $3000? Not for me. I know nothing of avionics, but I know
 people who do and once My little Kolb is in the shop, the shop rate goes to
 me...
 
 I cannot wait.
 
 Todd
 On 1/29/06 7:33 PM, "firebug" <gcc1964(at)mon-cre.net> wrote:
 
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  I did good to ask this question. [as he pats himself on the back] This has
  been nice to found out what makes these kolbs fly[MONEY] and how we make it.
  
 
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 Todd Fredricks, DO
 Flying Fox Services
 
 Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com
 
 POWERED BY MAC
 DO NOT ARCHIVE
 
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		rp3420(at)freescale.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:43 am    Post subject: Different occupations of Kolbers? | 
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				I graduated from Arizona State University in 93 with a BS in business
 marketing.  Worked for Hancock home builder until summer of 94 and
 started work with Motorola semiconductor sector.  Got my foot in the
 door as an manufacturing associate running high tech equipment.  Worked
 myself into manufacturing management, which I hated mainly due to the
 dry drunk I worked under.  Scrambled to do anything else and was picked
 up by the device engineering group where I still am working as a device
 engineering technician now for Motorola's spin-off of their semi sector-
 Freescale semiconductor.  Married 16 years with five children- 3 oldest
 girls and my two little boys, ranging from the oldest of 12 to my
 youngest of 3 yrs old. 
 
 Have a love for aviation since I was a boy.  Parents would give me
 flying lessons for birthday/Christmas as a youth.  Fly RC planes when I
 was a youth as well, and still do.  Always wanted to build my own
 experimental flying machine.   Been working on my Kolb Firestar II and
 uncle Craig's Mark III Xtra for little over six years.  Took a lot of
 skeaming, dreaming, scrimping, scraping, wheelin, dealing to get my
 Firestar flying machine done.  Just finishing up the paint job on both
 and hopefully will start flying here to build some time to go to the
 monument valley rally in May. 
 
 Tim Gherkins
 Firestar II/503dcdi/Powerfin prop/ BSR 750
 www.milows.com  - check out our website.
 
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		flyingfox(at)copper.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:53 am    Post subject: Different occupations of Kolbers? | 
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				Been waiting for a Milows update for a long time. Any changes coming to the
 website?
 On 1/30/06 10:43 AM, "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" <rp3420(at)freescale.com> wrote:
 
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  I graduated from Arizona State University in 93 with a BS in business
  marketing.  Worked for Hancock home builder until summer of 94 and
  started work with Motorola semiconductor sector.  Got my foot in the
  door as an manufacturing associate running high tech equipment.  Worked
  myself into manufacturing management, which I hated mainly due to the
  dry drunk I worked under.  Scrambled to do anything else and was picked
  up by the device engineering group where I still am working as a device
  engineering technician now for Motorola's spin-off of their semi sector-
  Freescale semiconductor.  Married 16 years with five children- 3 oldest
  girls and my two little boys, ranging from the oldest of 12 to my
  youngest of 3 yrs old.
  
  Have a love for aviation since I was a boy.  Parents would give me
  flying lessons for birthday/Christmas as a youth.  Fly RC planes when I
  was a youth as well, and still do.  Always wanted to build my own
  experimental flying machine.   Been working on my Kolb Firestar II and
  uncle Craig's Mark III Xtra for little over six years.  Took a lot of
 
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 Todd Fredricks, DO
 Flying Fox Services
 
 Visit my Blog at www.flyingfoxhangar.blogspot.com
 
 POWERED BY MAC
 
 DO NOT ARCHIVE
 
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		rp3420(at)freescale.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject: Different occupations of Kolbers? | 
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				Jimmy, Todd and Kolbers,
 
 The website will be getting updated here soon.  Uncle Milow(Craig) keeps
 harrassing me to take some pictures of the Firestar and post them.  We
 have been concentrating  all our efforts to getting both of these planes
 up and flying.  We are half tempted to spend a 4 day weekend at El
 Mirage dry lake bed just an hour north of Los Angelos to test the planes
 out and gain some flying experience.  Uncle Craig travels a lot now and
 I see him maybe every two weeks, but we are both close to flying.  We
 really want to see what the home-made cowl will do with the Mrk III
 Extra engine and plane performance.
 I try to read this list on a daily basis, so we are still here and
 lurking, looking forward to MV.
 
 Tim Gherkins
 Phx, AZ
 
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		flyingfox(at)copper.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Different occupations of Kolbers? | 
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				I cannot wait to see how the enclosure works on the Mark III for the engine.
 It looks very sleek indeed.
 
 Todd
 On 1/30/06 1:16 PM, "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" <rp3420(at)freescale.com> wrote:
 
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  Jimmy, Todd and Kolbers,
  
  The website will be getting updated here soon.  Uncle Milow(Craig) keeps
  harrassing me to take some pictures of the Firestar and post them.  We
  have been concentrating  all our efforts to getting both of these planes
  up and flying.  We are half tempted to spend a 4 day weekend at El
  Mirage dry lake bed just an hour north of Los Angelos to test the planes
  out and gain some flying experience.  Uncle Craig travels a lot now and
  I see him maybe every two weeks, but we are both close to flying.  We
  really want to see what the home-made cowl will do with the Mrk III
  Extra engine and plane performance.
  I try to read this list on a daily basis, so we are still here and
  lurking, looking forward to MV.
  
  Tim Gherkins
  Phx, AZ
  
  
  
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		David.Lehman
 
  
  Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 265 Location: "Lovely" Fresno CA
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Different occupations of Kolbers? | 
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				So, how much do you charge?...
 
 On 1/28/06, Ralph Hoover <flht99reh(at)netzero.com> wrote:
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  I was really hesitant in replying to the post about our walks of life. but
  I felt a resaponsibility to my brother Kolbers to share my expierence.  
 
  I'm a  61 year old male topless dancer [Twisted Evil]  in an all male bar
  on Friday nights. I make most of my money from law suite  [Idea] won against
  men who beat me up . I only have to work one night a week    (Fridays) but
  with the lawyer I have, he assures me that that is enough to establish my
  retirement nest egg.  [Wink]  [Wink]
  This allows me a considerable amount of time to fly my Kolb    , with or
  without the neck and back brace    , and sometimes without the
  eye-patch  [Wink] . I hoping that if I continue doing what I doing and add
  Saturday nights, that I could in fact double my income and buy a Kolb Mark
  III with one of the new four cycle motors. This would allow me the
  opertunity to fly out and join John H. and the rest of you in Arazona. If
  any of you pilots woudl be interested, I als do  private partys, and bring
  my own club and chain.     
 
  Ralph,           the good one   [Question]  [Question]  from Ohio!
 
  Do not archive...
 
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		rlaird
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Different occupations of Kolbers? | 
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				If you wink, and you have an eye-patch, isn't that technically a blink?
 
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  > eye-patch  [Wink] . I hoping that if I continue doing what I doing and add
 
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Robert Laird
 
formerly: MkIIIc w/ 912ULS  &  Gyrobee
 
current:  Autogyro Cavalon w/ 914ULS
 
Houston, TX area
 
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				 Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:30 am    Post subject: Different occupations of Kolbers? | 
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				Robert, I would have to say that it depends on which eye one winks with and
 which eye has the patch. I'm not paid to think as a male topless dancer,
 just shake my tail feather and run like  $#
 % !
 
 And speaking about shaking....Would someone wake and shake John H. He hasn't
 said anything lately. John if you're reading, move something. My ex-employer
 used to say that it was the only way he knew if someone was still alive! HA,
 HA. That and watch who comes in on pay day!
 Ralph, the good one from Ohio (like there are any bad ones anywhere in the
 USA).
 
  
 If you wink, and you have an eye-patch, isn't that technically a blink?
 
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  > eye-patch  [Wink] . I hoping that if I continue doing what I doing and
 add
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 do not archive
 
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				 Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:20 pm    Post subject: Different occupations of Kolbers? | 
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				Y'all;
 
 Bro John is out of pocket for a few days, He should be back tomorrow or 
 Friday
 
 Bro Jim
 
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