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				 Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: Winter Ops | 
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				I'm hoping to go out to BC in the next few weeks and collect my new CJ  .  With that in mind I'm looking for any techniques on winter ops and/or cold wx engine management techniques that anyone might be able to provide.
 
 Questions like; Proper use of cowl gills to avoid shock cooling of cylinders during runup/takeoff/letdown?  Any issues with the pneumatics during prolonged cold soaking, such as frozen water separators or brakes?  Part of my trip home takes me through the Rockies and the higher elevation airfields in Alberta,  any special considerations in powerplant management at these fields?  
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
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		rvfltd(at)televar.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Winter Ops | 
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				Mark,
 Other than the insulated cowl blanket that you have already ordered, I 
 might suggest installing the oil cooler winterization kit.  This kit has 
 a movable door that installs in the oil cooler duct.  In winter some 
 CJ's are nearly impossible to keep the oil in the green at altitude on a 
 cold day, this kit solves the problem and also comes with a FOD screen 
 to keep junk out of the oil cooler duct.  A bit more on the insulated 
 cowl blanket, if you sew Velcro on to a few spots on the inside where 
 the insulated blanket fits against the lower cowl and install 2 of the 
 110 volt heating pads it really makes a huge difference IF you have 
 access to electricity it will work wonders.  
 
 I have a hunch that at the temps you will be operating in your shutters 
 will be closed most of the time.  Do you have a heater of any kind?  Are 
 you traveling alone?  If you are use duct tape to tape all the seams on 
 the rear canopy closed, the majority of all the cold air coming into the 
 cockpit comes in under the rear skirt of the rear canopy.   In the nose 
 and main gear wells there are many holes that you can tape up to stop 
 the cold air also. 
 
 Give me a call (at) 509-826-4610 if  you need some more info on any of the 
 above.
 
 Always Yakin,
 Doug
 
 CJcanuck wrote:
 
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 I'm hoping to go out to BC in the next few weeks and collect my new CJ  .  With that in mind I'm looking for any techniques on winter ops and/or cold wx engine management techniques that anyone might be able to provide.
 
 Questions like; Proper use of cowl gills to avoid shock cooling of cylinders during runup/takeoff/letdown?  Any issues with the pneumatics during prolonged cold soaking, such as frozen water separators or brakes?  Part of my trip home takes me through the Rockies and the higher elevation airfields in Alberta,  any special considerations in powerplant management at these fields?  
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
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 Alcohol!  The cause of, and solution to, all of man's problems!
 
 
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		steve.fox(at)mac.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Winter Ops | 
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				Mark-
 
 You may also want to see if you can track down a winter flight suit   
 - CWU- 64/P or plan on wearing a snow mobile one piece suit. Even if  
 you have heat, it's going to be cold. I just flew this weekend and my  
 YAK has heat, but after about 30 minutes in -10F my feet and lower  
 back really started feeling the cold.
 Steve
 On Jan 23, 2007, at 3:42 PM, Doug Sapp wrote:
 
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  Mark,
  Other than the insulated cowl blanket that you have already  
  ordered, I might suggest installing the oil cooler winterization  
  kit.  This kit has a movable door that installs in the oil cooler  
  duct.  In winter some CJ's are nearly impossible to keep the oil in  
  the green at altitude on a cold day, this kit solves the problem  
  and also comes with a FOD screen to keep junk out of the oil cooler  
  duct.  A bit more on the insulated cowl blanket, if you sew Velcro  
  on to a few spots on the inside where the insulated blanket fits  
  against the lower cowl and install 2 of the 110 volt heating pads  
  it really makes a huge difference IF you have access to electricity  
  it will work wonders.
  I have a hunch that at the temps you will be operating in your  
  shutters will be closed most of the time.  Do you have a heater of  
  any kind?  Are you traveling alone?  If you are use duct tape to  
  tape all the seams on the rear canopy closed, the majority of all  
  the cold air coming into the cockpit comes in under the rear skirt  
  of the rear canopy.   In the nose and main gear wells there are  
  many holes that you can tape up to stop the cold air also.
  Give me a call (at) 509-826-4610 if  you need some more info on any of  
  the above.
 
  Always Yakin,
  Doug
 
  CJcanuck wrote:
 
 > 
 >
 > I'm hoping to go out to BC in the next few weeks and collect my  
 > new CJ  .  With that in mind I'm looking for any techniques on  
 > winter ops and/or cold wx engine management techniques that anyone  
 > might be able to provide.
 >
 > Questions like; Proper use of cowl gills to avoid shock cooling of  
 > cylinders during runup/takeoff/letdown?  Any issues with the  
 > pneumatics during prolonged cold soaking, such as frozen water  
 > separators or brakes?  Part of my trip home takes me through the  
 > Rockies and the higher elevation airfields in Alberta,  any  
 > special considerations in powerplant management at these fields?
 > Thanks in advance!
 >
 > --------
 > Alcohol!  The cause of, and solution to, all of man's problems!
 >
 >
 > Read this topic online here:
 >
 > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89800#89800
 >
 >
 
 
 
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		dave(at)davelaird.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: Winter Ops | 
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				I've often wondered if heated motorcycle clothing would help in the  
 winter...
 like the stuff here:
 
 http://www.gerbing.com/
 
 I have no idea what the current load is.... but even if you don't  
 have a 12 volt output then maybe you could secure some batteries in
 the backseat somehow and run off of them....
 
 Dave Laird
 N63536  1983 CJ6A  "Betty"
 Dallas
 On Jan 23, 2007, at 3:12 PM, Stephen Fox wrote:
 
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  Mark-
 
  You may also want to see if you can track down a winter flight  
  suit  - CWU- 64/P or plan on wearing a snow mobile one piece suit.  
  Even if you have heat, it's going to be cold. I just flew this  
  weekend and my YAK has heat, but after about 30 minutes in -10F my  
  feet and lower back really started feeling the cold.
  Steve
  On Jan 23, 2007, at 3:42 PM, Doug Sapp wrote:
 
 > 
 >
 > Mark,
 > Other than the insulated cowl blanket that you have already  
 > ordered, I might suggest installing the oil cooler winterization  
 > kit.  This kit has a movable door that installs in the oil cooler  
 > duct.  In winter some CJ's are nearly impossible to keep the oil  
 > in the green at altitude on a cold day, this kit solves the  
 > problem and also comes with a FOD screen to keep junk out of the  
 > oil cooler duct.  A bit more on the insulated cowl blanket, if you  
 > sew Velcro on to a few spots on the inside where the insulated  
 > blanket fits against the lower cowl and install 2 of the 110 volt  
 > heating pads it really makes a huge difference IF you have access  
 > to electricity it will work wonders.
 > I have a hunch that at the temps you will be operating in your  
 > shutters will be closed most of the time.  Do you have a heater of  
 > any kind?  Are you traveling alone?  If you are use duct tape to  
 > tape all the seams on the rear canopy closed, the majority of all  
 > the cold air coming into the cockpit comes in under the rear skirt  
 > of the rear canopy.   In the nose and main gear wells there are  
 > many holes that you can tape up to stop the cold air also.
 > Give me a call (at) 509-826-4610 if  you need some more info on any  
 > of the above.
 >
 > Always Yakin,
 > Doug
 >
 > CJcanuck wrote:
 >
 >> 
 >>
 >> I'm hoping to go out to BC in the next few weeks and collect my  
 >> new CJ  .  With that in mind I'm looking for any techniques on  
 >> winter ops and/or cold wx engine management techniques that  
 >> anyone might be able to provide.
 >>
 >> Questions like; Proper use of cowl gills to avoid shock cooling  
 >> of cylinders during runup/takeoff/letdown?  Any issues with the  
 >> pneumatics during prolonged cold soaking, such as frozen water  
 >> separators or brakes?  Part of my trip home takes me through the  
 >> Rockies and the higher elevation airfields in Alberta,  any  
 >> special considerations in powerplant management at these fields?
 >> Thanks in advance!
 >>
 >> --------
 >> Alcohol!  The cause of, and solution to, all of man's problems!
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> Read this topic online here:
 >>
 >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=89800#89800
 >>
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