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cookwithgas(at)HOTMAIL.CO
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:41 am Post subject: 601XL "Tail Number" Opinion Poll

Guys:



I registered my tail number some time ago (N5SL) and now I'm ready to stick 

it on the airplane.  I got the black, 3", pre-spaced numbers from Aircraft 

Spruce.  Here's where I'm having trouble making a decision:



Even though it is called a "Tail Number" I've noticed a lot of 601's have 

the numbers on the fuselage below the longerons.  Please reply with where 

you think the numbers ought to be and why.  I located a few examples below 

to help make the decision:

Tail:

http://www.zenvair.com/jannakos1.jpg

http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/pic06/b-carlson.jpg

http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/pic06/8190003.jpg



Fuselage:

http://www.zenvair.com/ray3.jpg

http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/pic06/c-richmond4.jpg

http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/pic06/n8830c-2.jpg



Thanks for your input.



Scott Laughlin

601XL/Corvair

Polished, not painted

Omaha, Nebraska

www.cooknwithgas.com



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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject: 601XL "Tail Number" Opinion Poll

FAR 45.25 (location)



http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf/0/89cbae

6ceae8fe13852566ab006bed58!OpenDocument&Click=

TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/yptdok



<quote>

Sec. 45.25



Location of marks on fixed-wing aircraft.



(a) The operator of a fixed-wing aircraft shall display the required marks

on either the vertical tail surfaces or the sides of the fuselage, except as

provided in Sec. 45.29(f).

(b) The marks required by paragraph (a) of this section shall be displayed

as follows:

(1) If displayed on the vertical tail surfaces, horizontally on both

surfaces, horizontally on both surfaces of a single vertical tail or on the

outer surfaces of a multivertical tail. However, on aircraft on which marks

at least 3 inches high may be displayed in accordance with Sec. 45.29(b)(1),

the marks may be displayed vertically on the vertical tail surfaces.

(2) If displayed on the fuselage surfaces, horizontally on both sides of the

fuselage between the trailing edge of the wing and the leading edge of the

horizontal stabilizer. However, if engine pods or other appurtenances are

located in this area and are an integral part of the fuselage side surfaces,

the operator may place the marks on those pods or appurtenances.

<end quote>



FAR 45.29 (size)



http://www.airweb.faa.gov/REGULATORY_AND_GUIDANCE_LIBRARY/RGFAR.NSF/0/b75de9

a6d18e489186256edf006d6cec!OpenDocument&ExpandSection 

TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/26cclr



All though I can't make it out from the FARs I am told that aircraft

entering the US now (post 9/11) need to have the numbers be 12 inches high.

Paragraph (h) seems to be related to this:



"(h) After March 7, 1988, each operator of an aircraft penetrating an ADIZ

or DEWIZ shall display on that aircraft temporary or permanent nationality

and registration marks at least 12 inches high."



-- Craig

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Gig Giacona

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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: 601XL

If you are going to use just black 3" number put them on the tail. As short as your number is I' put them on horz.



If someone was going to color match the numbers with a paint job I'd go with the fuselage.



With vanity numbers like yours, and mine, I'd go with big color matched numbers on the fuse.

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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: 601XL

If you go with the 3" numbers - I'd put them horizontally on the tail.  For myself, I'm going with 12 inch numbers on the fuselage in case I ever need to penetrate an ADIZ or cross certain international borders.



Tim



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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:51 pm Post subject: 601XL "Tail Number" Opinion Poll

An Opinion Poll? Scott you really know how to stir things up!!



Gary Boothe 

Cool, CA 

601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done, 

Tail done, wings done, working on c-section

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larry(at)macsmachine.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject: 601XL "Tail Number" Opinion Poll

Here's another example Scott.

Think I obsessed over where and how for a few days too.

Had black on aluminum for a year, then went to vinyl over paint. Your

examples are too good to say which is better. Some either way are really 

neat!

Take your pick and we'll respect you in the morning. 

http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/601ezrearlft.gif

Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com

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Scott Laughlin wrote:

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 <cookwithgas(at)hotmail.com>



 Guys:



 I registered my tail number some time ago (N5SL) and now I'm ready to 

 stick it on the airplane.  I got the black, 3", pre-spaced numbers 

 from Aircraft Spruce.  Here's where I'm having trouble making a decision:



 Even though it is called a "Tail Number" I've noticed a lot of 601's 

 have the numbers on the fuselage below the longerons.  Please reply 

 with where you think the numbers ought to be and why.  I located a few 

 examples below to help make the decision:



 Thanks for your input.



 Scott Laughlin

 601XL/Corvair

 Polished, not painted

 Omaha, Nebraska

 www.cooknwithgas.com

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leinad

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Posts: 283
Location: Central Virginia

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: 601XL

Scott,

I was planning to use large numbers on the fuselage sides for the following reason.   The sides are flat ALMOST.   My plans called for the .016 side skins, and didn't know thicker skins were an option until I was past that phase of construction, and the "flat" sides don't look flat.   Painting BIG numbers on the side is one idea I have to obscure the imperfection.

Dan

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