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 Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: CAD |
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Most all present day CAD, or wannabee programs, support scanning of prints, drawings, or even rough sketches, and will convert the 'pictures' into a CAD workable file format.........one could take a set of prints or drawings to say a college, maybe even high school, teaching drawing and design, and have them scanned, input to a recognizable file format, and then be able to have the scale up - scale down feature of the CAD programs.........try a manufacturing plant or large machine shop to see if they have a plotter (simply put, a large printer for blue print sized copying and printing - a copy center like Kinkos or Staples has them now and can blow up or scale down anysize page or drawing[s]) and can scan your prints to their computer CAD program, convert to a file format, and then scale to any percentage size based on your needs. "Needs" being the weight, and or displacement sizing needed for a particular planes weight and balance requirements............probably for no charge if you are friendly, allow them the courtesy of an explanation of purpose, and maybe offer a plane ride or two! 
I don't know about sizing up or scaling down a float design for an 'all in one' design that will work on all aircraft...........sounds good in principle, but not sure if that works in reality. Maybe someone with some engineering aptitude or experience with floats could comment here on the applicability of shrinking or expanding one design to fit all...............hmmmmmn. Would be nice if this will work for us little guys in home building for aluminum, wood, and composite.
Sid
far up in the freezing North country, or as we say up here, the hard water season!
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The guy that runs MukTuk Floats and sells plans for wooden floats has
his plans in a CAD system on a computer and you tell him what length
or bouyancy you want and he scales the plans in the CAD system and then
prints them out.
It would be very interesting if some of the newer 3D CAD systems
could model the Zenair floats which would allow for great viewing but
also the ability to scale them up and down to suit the particular
requirement.
I have the Plans for the old Northaire aluminum floats on CD
that WICKS used to sell. If I had a CAD system and knew how to operate
it I always thought it would be good to put them into the CAD system.
Scott
| Quote: | Time: 02:47:57 PM PST US
From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: float plans
Sid the plans are on paper only some better than other, s I would like to
get them on computer and up dated somehow. I am talking off list with others and
my floats are coming along and I will be welding parts next week then just
to seal up bottoms and get reedy to reg. and install this makes me very
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pilot4pay
Joined: 01 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: CAD |
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Uhh, this is a bit off topic, but I knew a fellow named Sid Housding in Midland Michigan. He later moved up to Tawas or Cheboygan. Now that wouldn’t be you would it?
Craig Smith
Howell, MI
From: owner-seaplane-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-seaplane-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sid Hausding
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:48 AM
To: seaplane-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: CAD
Most all present day CAD, or wannabee programs, support scanning of prints, drawings, or even rough sketches, and will convert the 'pictures' into a CAD workable file format.........one could take a set of prints or drawings to say a college, maybe even high school, teaching drawing and design, and have them scanned, input to a recognizable file format, and then be able to have the scale up - scale down feature of the CAD programs.........try a manufacturing plant or large machine shop to see if they have a plotter (simply put, a large printer for blue print sized copying and printing - a copy center like Kinkos or Staples has them now and can blow up or scale down anysize page or drawing[s]) and can scan your prints to their computer CAD program, convert to a file format, and then scale to any percentage size based on your needs. "Needs" being the weight, and or displacement sizing needed for a particular planes weight and balance requirements............probably for no charge if you are friendly, allow them the courtesy of an explanation of purpose, and maybe offer a plane ride or two!
I don't know about sizing up or scaling down a float design for an 'all in one' design that will work on all aircraft...........sounds good in principle, but not sure if that works in reality. Maybe someone with some engineering aptitude or experience with floats could comment here on the applicability of shrinking or expanding one design to fit all................hmmmmmn. Would be nice if this will work for us little guys in home building for aluminum, wood, and composite.
Sid
far up in the freezing North country, or as we say up here, the hard water season!
------------------
The guy that runs MukTuk Floats and sells plans for wooden floats has
his plans in a CAD system on a computer and you tell him what length
or bouyancy you want and he scales the plans in the CAD system and then
prints them out.
It would be very interesting if some of the newer 3D CAD systems
could model the Zenair floats which would allow for great viewing but
also the ability to scale them up and down to suit the particular
requirement.
I have the Plans for the old Northaire aluminum floats on CD
that WICKS used to sell. If I had a CAD system and knew how to operate
it I always thought it would be good to put them into the CAD system.
Scott
> Time: 02:47:57 PM PST US
> From: Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
> Subject: Re: float plans
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> Sid the plans are on paper only some better than other, s I would like to
> get them on computer and up dated somehow. I am talking off list with others and
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> my floats are coming along and I will be welding parts next week then just
> to seal up bottoms and get reedy to reg. and install this makes me very
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Float Flyr
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: CAD |
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Why not make a "one of" set of floats the same way they make surfboards. Use HD Styrofoam that you carve to shape and then glass it.... Puncture proof and can be very very light.
Noel [quote]
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