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d-m-hague(at)comcast.net
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 Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject: Transponder for separation |
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At 03:37 PM 2/13/2007, N27SB(at)aol.com wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Dana,
I take issue with this statement. The FAA does not require inspections but I think that most of us do them. Also I am not so sure that my Firefly is prone to structural failure... I hate to see statements about UL's that lead the average person to draw the conclusion that they are fragile unsafe machines. |
No, they're not, and that was not my meaning. My point was only that in the absence of specific inspection criteria, the public (or the government) has no way of insuring that ultralights *are* safe... and as such, they're relegated to areas where people won't get hurt.
A Kolb is a pretty solid airplane... but I've heard (maybe not on a Kolb) of mufflers coming loose, going through the prop. I lost the prop on my PPG when the shaft sheared, which couldn't hurt somebody below (I was over woods, and glided to an open field). I watched a Kolb crash when the prop disintegrated. Poorly trained pilots (again remember the regs require no training) lose control of their aircraft and crash. It was only a year or two ago that a moron in a Quicksilver crashed into a crowd at a ball game... you can bet he got (deservedly so) nailed on a congested area / open air assembly rap! Things happen... though most are preventable, they happen a lot more than they do to GA aircraft.
-Dana
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planecrazzzy
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| Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Transponder for separation |
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Hi Guys....
I came back and there were all kinds of posts....
Arty.... I think Richard already explained your question....(elec system)
Richard.... Thanks for jumping in....I was hoping you would...
The guy was in an Experimental (Sky Ranger ? )....
and it was a little ways away from St Paul...(aprox 10 statue miles)
Tower probly didn't know his ALT ,
and I think the Jet was a little too low.. ( scud running )
Although for that area...it's "Under" Class B
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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Richard Pike
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| Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: Transponder for separation |
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As far as the jet "Scud Running" - jets are not really supposed to scud run, and ATC is not to encourage it.
There has been an FAA order around for years that is universally ignored, it is 7110.22D. Controllers don't like it because the lame ones can't work traffic two dimensionally like they usually do, some jet pilots don't like it because they can't fly a slam dunk approach.
In essence, it says that jets descending into an airport should be at or above 5,000' AGL until they are about to turn base leg, or get within 5 miles of the airport, or a combination of the above. It is to prevent what one US Airways Captain referred to as "trolling for Cherokees."
Rather than explain it, I will just post the order as .jpg files and let you draw your own conclusions.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
| planecrazzzy wrote: | Hi Guys....
I came back and there were all kinds of posts....
Arty.... I think Richard already explained your question....(elec system)
Richard.... Thanks for jumping in....I was hoping you would...
The guy was in an Experimental (Sky Ranger ? )....
and it was a little ways away from St Paul...(aprox 10 statue miles)
Tower probly didn't know his ALT ,
and I think the Jet was a little too low.. ( scud running )
Although for that area...it's "Under" Class B
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN |
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JetPilot
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| Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: Transponder for separation |
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| Richard Pike wrote: |
In essence, it says that jets descending into an airport should be at or above 5,000' AGL until they are about to turn base leg, or get within 5 miles of the airport, or a combination of the above.
Richard Pike
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I see that date on that as 1986, it may be out of effect or long forgotten... In reality, flying into the busiest airports in the world and also to smaller ones, we are never at 5000 feet when we turn base leg... Be it IFR or VFR, base is usually between 2000 to 3000 feet.
If you are worried about fast flying jets, a transponder will solve 99 % of that problem. An altitude encoder is even better, but not necessary. When you have TCAS shouting TRAFFIC at you while flying a jet, you can bet the guys flying it start looking out the windows to see what they are about to run into. Nothing is perfect, but TCAS works very very well.
The biggest reason for me to install a transponder was to open up a bunch of airspace and many airports to you I am flying cross country. If you are low over farmland, you can turn it off so as not to attract attention, but its nice to have when you want it. It will give you some added safety when you are flying high with larger aircraft or aircraft that are talking to ATC. Even though ATC does not always have time to point out traffic to everyone, they are usually pretty good about it and increases safety a lot in busy airspace.
Michael A. Bigelow
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Richard Pike
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| Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: Transponder for separation |
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If it is long forgotten, then you need to let the Classic Jet Aircraft
Association know it, it is in their latest publication, pdf page 15.
http://www.classicjets.org/documents/Jet_Operations_Guide.pdf
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Richard Pike
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| Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: Transponder for separation |
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Aren't you supposed to leave your transponder on all the time?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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John Hauck
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| Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject: Transponder for separation |
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| The biggest reason for me to install a transponder was to open up a
bunch of airspace and many airports to you I am flying cross country.
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| Michael A. Bigelow
Mike:
I choose to stay out of Class B and C airports. In fact, I don't care
to fly into Class D airports. I like going into uncontrolled airports
and cow pastures.
I don't have any problems with airspace as I happily fly cross country
with my ICOM A3 and Garmin 196.
john h
mkIII
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:21 am Post subject: Transponder for separation |
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(else why are so many BRS systems sold?). >>
Not in the UK. Hardly anyone has one.
Cheers
Pat
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