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pacificpainting(at)comcas
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: What does it mean?

I KNEW IT WAS A SHIP, NOT A BOAT.  WHEN DOES A BOAT BECOME A SHIP? JUST 

TESTING. A SUBMARINE IS A BOAT. WHERE IS THIS GOING ANYWAY?



DO NOT ARCHIVE.

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ashontz

Joined: 27 Dec 2006
Posts: 723

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: Re: What does it mean?

 	  naumuk(at)alltel.net wrote: 	
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    For those of you not familiar with the cliche, a boat is a hole in the 

water you throw money into.

    Oops! That's not the Constitution, that's the federal budget!

Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville, Pa

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That hole is getting huge. Getting close to a tsunami of inflation coming back at us once foreing holders of US debt decide to dump the dollar. Should be interesting.

bryanmmartin

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1018

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: What does it mean?

In the old days of wooden ships and iron men it was easy: a ship had  

three or more square rigged masts. Now the U.S. Navy defines a boat  

as any vessel small enough to be hoisted aboard a ship, except for  

submarines which are traditionally called boats. And you don't dare  

call a ship a boat in front of a chief or he'll chew your butt off.



Where is this going? It's taking on water and sinking fast.  

Encyclopedia Britannica:



ship :

Large floating vessel capable of crossing open waters. The term  

formerly was applied to sailing vessels with three or more masts;  

today it usually denotes a vessel of more than 500 tons' (450 metric  

tons') displacement.

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 I KNEW IT WAS A SHIP, NOT A BOAT.  WHEN DOES A BOAT BECOME A SHIP?  

 JUST TESTING. A SUBMARINE IS A BOAT. WHERE IS THIS GOING ANYWAY?




	


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Bryan Martin

AT1 USNR  (Ret.)

N61BM, CH 601 XL,

RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.

do not archive.

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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive.

JamesL(at)Lugoj.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: What does it mean?

Bryan Martin wrote:

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		   Where is this going? It's taking on water and sinking fast.  


	


Is this a family-oriented list? If so, you guys probably shouldn't be 

talking ship.

dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:02 pm Post subject: What does it mean?

I don't know, which way is the nose of the sub  pointed?

  

 Dred

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JamesL(at)Lugoj.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: What does it mean?

Bryan Martin wrote:

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		   Government is like a fungus, if you don't constantly work  to keep it 

 contained it will just keep growing and sucking up more  and more 

 resources until it chokes the life out of those who it feeds  off of.


	


That attribute of government has been known for centuries, as evidenced 

by the famous quotes:



"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."



Attributed to either Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, or Wendell 

Phillips. ( http://www.bartleby.com/73/1073.html )



Also:



"It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a prey 

to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is 

eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the 

consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt."



John Philpot Curran (1750–1817) ( http://www.bartleby.com/73/1054.html )

gboothe5(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: What does it mean?

How come people don't talk like that anymore?



Gary Boothe 

Cool, CA 

601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done, 

Tail done, wings done, working on c-section

Do not archive

..That attribute of government has been known for centuries, as evidenced 

by the famous quotes:



"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."



Attributed to either Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, or Wendell 

Phillips. ( http://www.bartleby.com/73/1073.html )



Also:



"It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a prey 

to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is 

eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the 

consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt."



John Philpot Curran (1750-1817) ( http://www.bartleby.com/73/1054.html )

jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject: What does it mean?

I've been told that screen doors don't work very well  on submarines  8*)  KABONG Do Not Archive

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jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: What does it mean?

That's because most of those now in power were "flower" children, and the 

others are teachers who care only if you can "communicate" or question what 

"is" is.  8*)  KABONG  Do Not Archive



Gary Boothe" <gboothe5(at)comcast.net>

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 How come people don't talk like that anymore?

 ...That attribute of government has been known for centuries, as evidenced

 by the famous quotes:



 "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."



 Attributed to either Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, or Wendell

 Phillips. ( http://www.bartleby.com/73/1073.html )



 Also:



 "It is the common fate of the indolent to see their rights become a prey

 to the active. The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is

 eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the

 consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt."



 John Philpot Curran (1750-1817) ( http://www.bartleby.com/73/1054.html )

jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: What does it mean?

Nope, a boat is that thingy ya'll serve gravy in..  8*)  KABONG Do Not 

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 ALL THIS TIME, I THOUGHT THE CONSTITUTION WAS A BOAT.

 DO NOT ARCHIVE

lrm(at)skyhawg.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:12 am Post subject: What does it mean?

Just for grins and to add something to this off subject, my son who was in 

the Navy on a carrier corrected me when I called his Carrier a ship, "Dad, 

they are called boats not ships".



absolutely do not achieve.



Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com

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pacificpainting(at)comcas
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:50 am Post subject: What does it mean?

IS THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE SAILS?

DO NOT ARCHIVE, PLEASE.

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Crvsecretary(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: What does it mean?

According to my father's Bluejackets Manual (1945 edition) the  determination between a 'ship' and a 'boat' is not black and white, and it  is best summed up as:

  

 " The destroyer is certainly a ship, while the Captain's dinghy is  certainly a boat".

  

 FWIW

  

 Tracy Smith

 definitely Do Not Archive !!!!!

  

  

  

  

 In a message dated 3/4/2007 12:14:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,  lrm(at)skyhawg.com writes:

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Just for    grins and to add something to this off subject, my son who was in 

the Navy    on a carrier corrected me when I called his Carrier a ship, "Dad, 

they are    called boats not ships".



absolutely do not achieve.



Larry,    N1345L, www.skyhawg.com

	


 

  



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jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:11 am Post subject: What does it mean?

If it doesn't have sails, why do they call the crew "Sailors".  8*)   KABONG 

Do Not Archive this either

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 IS THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE SAILS?

 DO NOT ARCHIVE, PLEASE.

gboothe5(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:14 am Post subject: What does it mean?

As I try to get re-invigorated after an 8 week hiatus, due to home remodeling, I find this entire string quite stimulating, conjuring all kinds of pertinent questions, such as:  

   

Was the Love Boat really a Love Ship?  

   

Why is a destroyer a ship, while an aircraft carrier is a boat?  

   

If a two-masted, square-rigged sailing vessel is a Brig, and a 3 masted, square-rigged sailing vessel is a ship, what is a 4 masted, fore & aft rigged sailing vessel? Is it still a ship or just a schooner?  

   

…and if a 3 masted, square-rigged man-o-war was a “Ship of the Line,” what would a 2 masted, square-rigged man-o-war be called? Is it also a “Ship of the Line” or a “Brig of the Line” or a “Boat of the Line”?  

   

   

Some one, PLEASE, answer these questions!! Enquiring minds want to know….  

     

Gary Boothe 

 Cool, CA 

 601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done, 

 Tail done, wings done, working on c-section   

Do not archive      

  

From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Crvsecretary(at)aol.com

 Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 10:33 AM

 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

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According to my father's Bluejackets Manual (1945 edition) the determination between a 'ship' and a 'boat' is not black and white, and it is best summed up as:  

    

   

    

" The destroyer is certainly a ship, while the Captain's dinghy is certainly a boat".  

    

   

    

FWIW  

    

   

    

Tracy Smith  

    

definitely Do Not Archive !!!!!  

    

   

    

   

    

   

    

   

    

In a message dated 3/4/2007 12:14:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, lrm(at)skyhawg.com writes:  

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 Just for grins and to add something to this off subject, my son who was in 

 the Navy on a carrier corrected me when I called his Carrier a ship, "Dad, 

 they are called boats not ships".

 

 absolutely do not achieve.

 

 Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com

 

   	
  

    

   

  



 

         

  

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jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject: What does it mean?

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: What does it mean?

Very impressive response. I  still think boats are holes in the water you throw money into.

     Of course, our money just flies  out of our wallets!

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 Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuse/Corvair

Townville,  Pa

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gboothe5(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: What does it mean?

AH-HA! Thank you, John!!  

   

Now I can get back to my center section….  

     

Gary  

Do not archive!  

        

  

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hart701(at)charter.net
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:47 am Post subject: What does it mean?

Boat vs. Ship ??  It means you are wasting everyones time!!!!  Please, let's see some good building info instead of each person trying to out-cute the other.

Rich H

601zv(at)ritternet.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:14 am Post subject: What does it mean?

Yea, I'm beginning to feel like the Ancient Mariner.

And how about DO NOT ARCHIVE



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