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sperry50(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: landing light

[quote]I have made the cut out in the leading edge and also have the landing light assembly clecoed in place but I still can’t get the lens into the cut out. I am afraid to force it for fear it will crack. I have checked and re-checked the cut out and it seems to be in the correct place and the measurements all seem correct. Does anyone have any tips for getting the lens to fit in the cut out hole? The assembly photos mention cutting a pie shaped piece but no measurements are given. Skip Perry601 quick build [b]

Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: landing light

Skip,



I just trimmed my lens "by guess & by gosh."  I probably trimmed it (progressively) three or four times before I could get it to go into place.  A very poor design, if you ask me.  The same goes for the sheet metal screws that hold it in place.

  

 Jay in Dallas

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"Skip Perry" <sperry50(at)comcast.net> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  I have made the cut out in the leading edge and also have the landing light

assembly clecoed in place but I still can't get the lens into the cut out. I

am afraid to force it for fear it will crack. I have checked and re-checked

the cut out and it seems to be in the correct place and the measurements all

seem correct. Does anyone have any tips for getting the lens to fit in the

cut out hole? The assembly photos mention cutting a pie shaped piece but no

measurements are given.

 

Skip Perry

601 quick build

Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: landing light

Skip,



By the way, your message was in a VERY small and all on the same line.  



Jay in Dallas

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"Skip Perry" <sperry50(at)comcast.net> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  I have made the cut out in the leading edge and also have the landing light

assembly clecoed in place but I still can't get the lens into the cut out. I

am afraid to force it for fear it will crack. I have checked and re-checked

the cut out and it seems to be in the correct place and the measurements all

seem correct. Does anyone have any tips for getting the lens to fit in the

cut out hole? The assembly photos mention cutting a pie shaped piece but no

measurements are given.

 

Skip Perry

601 quick build

jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: landing light

Your leading edge is different. But we put the lens inside before mounting  the assembly with screws. Took a piece of duct tape about 4" long & 1" wide.  Folded the center together for about an inch & attached the two remaining  "tabs" to the lens. A lot easier to handle. KABONG

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Michael Valentine

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 108

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject: landing light

I also had to round the corners of the lens - that was enough for me to slide it in.



Michael in NH



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On 3/4/07, Skip Perry < sperry50(at)comcast.net (sperry50(at)comcast.net)> wrote:[quote]            	  Quote: 	
		  I have made the cut out in the leading edge and also have the landing light assembly clecoed in place but I still can't get the lens into the cut out. I am afraid to force it for fear it will crack. I have checked and re-checked the cut out and it seems to be in the correct place and the measurements all seem correct. Does anyone have any tips for getting the lens to fit in the cut out hole? The assembly photos mention cutting a pie shaped piece but no measurements are given.

	




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dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:29 pm Post subject: landing light

I second that; in fact I decided to use flush set  solid rivets holding nutplates for #6-32 screws to secure the  lense.

  

 Dred

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dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: landing light

My first attempt was equally frustrating and nerve  racking. Then I cut the lense down to a size that was just enough larger than  the hole to allow a safe edge distance from the holes. After that the lense  was a lot easier to fit into the hole.

  

 Dred

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demeo(at)sonic.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: landing light

Trim the lens until it is about 3/8 to 1/2 inch on each side.  I used an 

olfa knife and got it trimmed to size in about 8 minutes.  Keep the lens 

warm so it won't crack like mine did when I tried to fit it this winter. 

A new lens is very expensive.  Round off carefully the corners.  Use the 

tape method to pull the lens forward once you have it in.  It takes a 

lot of patience, but it will soon fit.  Good luck. 



Brad



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ccwacker(at)HOTMAIL.COM
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: landing light

You will need to cut the lens. Zenith doesn't tell you about that but it is 

the only way to get it in.



Chuck Wacker

601XL Quick Build

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		  From: "Skip Perry" <sperry50(at)comcast.net>

Reply-To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

To: <zenith-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: landing light

Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:43:02 -0500



I have made the cut out in the leading edge and also have the landing light

assembly clecoed in place but I still can't get the lens into the cut out. 

I

am afraid to force it for fear it will crack. I have checked and re-checked

the cut out and it seems to be in the correct place and the measurements 

all

seem correct. Does anyone have any tips for getting the lens to fit in the

cut out hole? The assembly photos mention cutting a pie shaped piece but no

measurements are given.



Skip Perry

601 quick build




	


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japhillipsga(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:33 am Post subject: landing light

Skip, that lens can be a real bear. I screwed mine up a bit, but learned from a fellow at Sun n Fun last year a method to get it right. He said to make a wood form the shape of the wing nose. Make a thin cardboard template that will fit in the hole in the wing edge. Make the Lexan the size of the cardboard. Now here's the tricky part. The fellow said that Lexan does not become soft and malleable until it gets to something like 300 degrees ?? His method was to put the form sanding nose up into the oven with the Lexan on top and heat it until the plastic bends down to the shape of the nose skin form.  Sounded like a neat way to size and bend the material. I have not tried it myself, but it might work. The fellow may be on this thread. Perhaps you could find him for more details. Best regards, Bill of Georgia   

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: landing light

Skip-

     Jeff Small passed the procedure on to  me. I don't know if he originated it, but I've seen his plane and can tell you  that it works for an HDS, with it's thick wing. Probably work for an XL, too,  with a little extra juggling and swearing.

 Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuse/Corvair

Townville, Pa

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Ron Lendon

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 685
Location: Clinton Twp., MI

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: landing light

I wouldn't recommend heating plastic in a oven you plan on using to prepare food in.  Just not a good idea.



Fitting is just part of the process of making it right.

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marinegunner(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:55 am Post subject: landing light

As a long time fire fighter, I do not think I would heat plastic in a

cooking oven. I know of several folks who got at least a partial new

home from such antics.



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pmaxpmax(at)HOTMAIL.COM
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: landing light

This is why this list has its limitations.  People speculate.  Too much time to think.  I mean no disrespect to you, Ron.  But I read through emails for people who say things like, "I did this",  and "I know first hand."

  

 So here's what I know first hand: I heated my Plexiglas lens in the very same oven we use to feed our family -- GASP -- 

 with no ill effects.  Not a smell, no one came down with cancer in the intervening years.  The temps are so low there is no problem.  The Thanksgiving Turkey even tasted good 



Phil Maxson

 601XL/Corvair

 Northwest New Jersey

   

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		   From: rlendon(at)comcast.net

 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:22:33 -0800

 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

 

 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Lendon" <rlendon(at)comcast.net>

 

 I wouldn't recommend heating plastic in a oven you plan on using to prepare food in. Just not a good idea.

 

 Fitting is just part of the process of making it right.

 

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 Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI

 Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder 

 http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon


	


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planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: landing light

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  ...especially if you allow the oven to sit at its self-cleaning cycle for a little while afterwards...



Phil Maxson <pmaxpmax(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

  [quote]    P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }    This is why this list has its limitations.  People speculate.  Too much time to think.  I mean no disrespect to you, Ron.  But I read through emails for people who say things like, "I did this",  and "I know first hand."

 

So here's what I know first hand: I heated my Plexiglas lens in the very same oven we use to feed our family -- GASP -- 

with no ill effects.  Not a smell, no one came down with cancer in the intervening years.  The temps are so low there is no problem.  The Thanksgiving  Turkey even tasted good 



Phil Maxson

601XL/Corvair

Northwest New Jersey

    

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		   Subject: Re: landing light

 From: rlendon(at)comcast.net

 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:22:33 -0800

 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

 

 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Lendon" <rlendon(at)comcast.net>

 

 I wouldn't recommend heating plastic in a oven you plan on using to prepare food in. Just not a good idea.

 

 Fitting is just part of the process of making it right.

 

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 Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI

 Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder 

 http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon


	




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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: landing light

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  ...especially if you allow the oven to sit at its self-cleaning cycle for a little while afterwards...



Phil Maxson <pmaxpmax> wrote:

  [quote]    P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }    This is why this list has its limitations.  People speculate.  Too much time to think.  I mean no disrespect to you, Ron.  But I read through emails for people who say things like, "I did this",  and "I know first hand."

 

So here's what I know first hand: I heated my Plexiglas lens in the very same oven we use to feed our family -- GASP -- 

with no ill effects.  Not a smell, no one came down with cancer in the intervening years.  The temps are so low there is no problem.  The Thanksgiving  Turkey even tasted good 



Phil Maxson

601XL/Corvair

Northwest New Jersey

    

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		   Subject: Re: landing light

 From: rlendon(at)comcast.net

 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:22:33 -0800

 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

 

 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Lendon" <rlendon>

 

 I wouldn't recommend heating plastic in a oven you plan on using to prepare food in. Just not a good idea.

 

 Fitting is just part of the process of making it right.

 

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 Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI

 Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder 

 http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon



	




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Worst case, take it to the local high school and ask if you can put it in the kiln.



Even so, I don't see why it would be that hard to make a mini-oven using some flashing or aluminum sheet, sticking the part in there, and then toting the kerosene heater outside and plopping it on the top for a few minutes.

Ron Lendon

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 685
Location: Clinton Twp., MI

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: landing light

None taken Phil, I found a thermo plastic shop down the street and let them drape it to the form I made.  I had an incident years back with a motorcycle chain, grease and an oven.  I guess I'm a little oven shy after that one.



I thought the nut plate idea was pretty good so tonight I made em up.  The bottom ones won't be used because it looks like there won't be any clearance.  The tops one should work fine though.

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