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hotwheels
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 Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:53 am Post subject: Windscreen install before panel? |
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Thoughts on whether or not to install the windscreen before panel? I can't think of any particular reason why not other than the cabin will get warmer due to reduced circulation while crawling around.
Cheers,
Jay
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Jim Berry
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Windscreen install before panel? |
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Jay,
I installed my windscreen before the panel, and would do it that way again. I would suggest installing any defrost fans you may want before doing the windscreen. I also painted the lower 2-3" of the inside of the windscreen to hide the fiberglass fairing you will create on the outside. That area is very difficult to work in once the windscreen is in place.
Jim Berry
40482
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rv10rob(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:55 am Post subject: Windscreen install before panel? |
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I did all my panel, subpanel, and wiring work with the top forward fuselage on a work bench. Made it much easier than crawling around the fuselage. http://kochman.net/N819K/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/img_0624.jpg
That's what I'd recommend, if you haven't riveted that part on yet. If you have, it probably doesn't matter whether the windscreen is done before or after.
-Rob
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 9:53 AM, jayb <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com (jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:54 am Post subject: Windscreen install before panel? |
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if you mean the actual front of the panel, installing the components. no
problem if you mean setting up the wiring and layout I would get all that
backend stuff done first, get all the wires positioned than close out the
upper fusellage and install the windscreen. This will help with where to
position your fans in relation to the avionics but more importantly it will
allow you to get easy access to move/route wires around if they don't fit in
a certain place.
Pascal
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From: "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:53 AM
To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Windscreen install before panel?
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Thoughts on whether or not to install the windscreen before panel? I can't
think of any particular reason why not other than the cabin will get
warmer due to reduced circulation while crawling around.
Cheers,
Jay
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 82907#282907
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hotwheels
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: Windscreen install before panel? |
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To clarify... The forward fuse is riveted on and the engine is hung. The fans are in place.
Jay
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MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:07 pm Post subject: Windscreen install before panel? |
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I did most of my panel work with the forward fuselage section upside
down on the bench. I would wait as long as possible before riveting
that whole section in place. The engine can go on, landing gear, the
top fitted - you just can't final attach the top.
Then I riveted it in place and continued to finish the panel. I
attached the top, fitted the doors, glued the windows... everything
short of the windsheild.
I'm still tinkering around inside and trying to hold off on the
windsheild until the last possible moment. I find everything easier to
do with the windsheild off. It's been cut and fitted but it is in
storage until I have to put it on.
Bill
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Thoughts on whether or not to install the windscreen before panel? I can't think of any particular reason why not other than the cabin will get warmer due to reduced circulation while crawling around.
Cheers,
Jay
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rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:05 pm Post subject: Windscreen install before panel? |
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makes no difference than, however do not install the avionics until after
the windscreen.. between fitting the plexi and resin you don't want to worry
about it going near the avionics.
This is what I am doing not what I did.I don't have the upper fusellage
riveted yet so doing all my wiring was easy enough.
Have fun..
Pascal
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From: "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:30 PM
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Subject: Re: Windscreen install before panel?
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:03 pm Post subject: Windscreen install before panel? |
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My two pennies: for me, the last two items that get riveted on are the
forward upper fuselage and the cabin top. Almost all the wiring will be
done prior to attaching the forward upper fuselage. Before you are
ready to attach the windshield, fit the windshield and then use a
sharpie to mark the outside edge on the fuselage top. Paint the forward
fuselage top with a flat black paint .... look for 'textured' black in
rattle can.
Linn
Pascal wrote:
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if you mean the actual front of the panel, installing the components. no
problem if you mean setting up the wiring and layout I would get all
that backend stuff done first, get all the wires positioned than close
out the upper fusellage and install the windscreen. This will help with
where to position your fans in relation to the avionics but more
importantly it will allow you to get easy access to move/route wires
around if they don't fit in a certain place.
Pascal
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From: "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:53 AM
To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Windscreen install before panel?
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> Thoughts on whether or not to install the windscreen before panel? I
> can't think of any particular reason why not other than the cabin will
> get warmer due to reduced circulation while crawling around.
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> Cheers,
> Jay
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 82907#282907
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daveleikam(at)wi.rr.com
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| Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: Windscreen install before panel? |
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I am putting windscreen on first. I don't see any difference if you already
riveted on the forward fuse top. Two more cents - I used rattle can, spray
on, truck bed liner from the local auto parts store to paint the forward
fuse top. Textured, flat black and very tough. Scuff and prime first.
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA
Muskego, WI
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LarryRosen
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:31 pm Post subject: Windscreen install before panel? |
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Would there be any issues with completing the tasks listed below prior
to riveting the forward upper fuselage in place
Fit the upper cabin top brace
Install the engine
Fit the upper and lower cowls
Install the cowl baffles
Fit the windscreen
Larry Rosen
Starting building after a year away
Linn Walters wrote:
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My two pennies: for me, the last two items that get riveted on are
the forward upper fuselage and the cabin top. Almost all the wiring
will be done prior to attaching the forward upper fuselage. Before
you are ready to attach the windshield, fit the windshield and then
use a sharpie to mark the outside edge on the fuselage top. Paint the
forward fuselage top with a flat black paint .... look for 'textured'
black in rattle can.
Linn
Pascal wrote:
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> if you mean the actual front of the panel, installing the components.
> no problem if you mean setting up the wiring and layout I would get
> all that backend stuff done first, get all the wires positioned than
> close out the upper fusellage and install the windscreen. This will
> help with where to position your fans in relation to the avionics but
> more importantly it will allow you to get easy access to move/route
> wires around if they don't fit in a certain place.
> Pascal
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> From: "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:53 AM
> To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
> Subject: Windscreen install before panel?
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>> Thoughts on whether or not to install the windscreen before panel? I
>> can't think of any particular reason why not other than the cabin
>> will get warmer due to reduced circulation while crawling around.
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>> Cheers,
>> Jay
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 82907#282907
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rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:02 pm Post subject: Windscreen install before panel? |
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no issues. I did everything except the windscreen. I'll rivet the upper
fusellage than do the windscreen as it makes little sense for me to move the
windscreen, fit it and wait to final install until I finally get around to
riveting the front- which will be months.
Pascal
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From: "Larry Rosen" <N205EN(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 2:30 PM
To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Windscreen install before panel?
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Would there be any issues with completing the tasks listed below prior to
riveting the forward upper fuselage in place
Fit the upper cabin top brace
Install the engine
Fit the upper and lower cowls
Install the cowl baffles
Fit the windscreen
Larry Rosen
Starting building after a year away
Linn Walters wrote:
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> My two pennies: for me, the last two items that get riveted on are the
> forward upper fuselage and the cabin top. Almost all the wiring will be
> done prior to attaching the forward upper fuselage. Before you are ready
> to attach the windshield, fit the windshield and then use a sharpie to
> mark the outside edge on the fuselage top. Paint the forward fuselage
> top with a flat black paint .... look for 'textured' black in rattle can.
> Linn
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> Pascal wrote:
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>> if you mean the actual front of the panel, installing the components. no
>> problem if you mean setting up the wiring and layout I would get all
>> that backend stuff done first, get all the wires positioned than close
>> out the upper fusellage and install the windscreen. This will help with
>> where to position your fans in relation to the avionics but more
>> importantly it will allow you to get easy access to move/route wires
>> around if they don't fit in a certain place.
>> Pascal
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:53 AM
>> To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
>> Subject: Windscreen install before panel?
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>>> Thoughts on whether or not to install the windscreen before panel? I
>>> can't think of any particular reason why not other than the cabin will
>>> get warmer due to reduced circulation while crawling around.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jay
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>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 82907#282907
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Strasnuts
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:46 pm Post subject: Windscreen install before panel? |
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The only thing you can do is the mounting the engine. You can fit the
brace and drill it but you will have to take it back off. The cowls
can't be done until the fwd top fuse is in place because of the
hinges. Also, you can't do the baffling because the cowls can't be
installed until the hinges. I hope I'm right but that is the way I
had to do it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 23, 2010, at 15:30, Larry Rosen t<N205EN(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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Would there be any issues with completing the tasks listed below
prior to riveting the forward upper fuselage in place
Fit the upper cabin top brace
Install the engine
Fit the upper and lower cowls
Install the cowl baffles
Fit the windscreen
Larry Rosen
Starting building after a year away
Linn Walters wrote:
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> My two pennies: for me, the last two items that get riveted on are
> the forward upper fuselage and the cabin top. Almost all the
> wiring will be done prior to attaching the forward upper fuselage.
> Before you are ready to attach the windshield, fit the windshield
> and then use a sharpie to mark the outside edge on the fuselage
> top. Paint the forward fuselage top with a flat black paint ....
> look for 'textured' black in rattle can.
> Linn
>
> Pascal wrote:
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>> if you mean the actual front of the panel, installing the
>> components. no problem if you mean setting up the wiring and
>> layout I would get all that backend stuff done first, get all the
>> wires positioned than close out the upper fusellage and install
>> the windscreen. This will help with where to position your fans in
>> relation to the avionics but more importantly it will allow you to
>> get easy access to move/route wires around if they don't fit in a
>> certain place.
>> Pascal
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:53 AM
>> To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
>> Subject: Windscreen install before panel?
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>>> Thoughts on whether or not to install the windscreen before
>>> panel? I can't think of any particular reason why not other than
>>> the cabin will get warmer due to reduced circulation while
>>> crawling around.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 82907#282907
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Jim Berry
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Windscreen install before panel? |
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Larry,
All of the items on your list can be accomplished before riveting the forward top fuselage in place. Just cleco the top skin and proceed with the other steps. Obviously you will have to remove the cabin top brace after drilling for the hardware at the upper end, then reinstall it after the forward skin is riveted in place. There is no problem clecoing the cowl hinges and fitting the cowling, baffles, etc. without the top skin being riveted.
Jim Berry
40482
N15JB
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Strasnuts
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Windscreen install before panel? |
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Man do I feel like a ri-tard. I guess I can finish my baffling. Thanks Jim. I never thought of using clecos. I'm serious.
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject: Windscreen install before panel? |
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I guess I have 4 pennies in here now!!
I'll bolt on the engine mount so I can mount stuff on the firewall prior
to riveting on the forward upper fuselage. I think I'll put it on the
gear just before mounting the engine. My proposed schedule would be:
1) fit the cabin top brace
2) complete the wiring ..... My panel will be connectorized for easy
removal and the wirng to the fuselage will either be coiled up with the
forward upper fuselage, or attached after it's riveted on.
3) prepare the inside of the cabin top ..... in process now ....
getting ready to lay up the overhead console. Might include painting on
inside.
4) install all the interior trim panels and seats.
5) river forward upper fuselage.
6) install cabin top.
7) get on the gear.
 hang engine.
9) baffling .... make plenum.
10) attach cowl
11) install windows and windscreen.
12) final assembly of wings and tail feathers.
13) final paint ..... wings & tail feathers will be painted after
they're assembled.
If there's a quagmire in the making .... someone let me know!!!
Linn
Larry Rosen wrote:
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Would there be any issues with completing the tasks listed below prior
to riveting the forward upper fuselage in place
Fit the upper cabin top brace
Install the engine
Fit the upper and lower cowls
Install the cowl baffles
Fit the windscreen
Larry Rosen
Starting building after a year away
Linn Walters wrote:
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> My two pennies: for me, the last two items that get riveted on are
> the forward upper fuselage and the cabin top. Almost all the wiring
> will be done prior to attaching the forward upper fuselage. Before
> you are ready to attach the windshield, fit the windshield and then
> use a sharpie to mark the outside edge on the fuselage top. Paint the
> forward fuselage top with a flat black paint .... look for 'textured'
> black in rattle can.
> Linn
>
> Pascal wrote:
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>> if you mean the actual front of the panel, installing the components.
>> no problem if you mean setting up the wiring and layout I would get
>> all that backend stuff done first, get all the wires positioned than
>> close out the upper fusellage and install the windscreen. This will
>> help with where to position your fans in relation to the avionics but
>> more importantly it will allow you to get easy access to move/route
>> wires around if they don't fit in a certain place.
>> Pascal
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:53 AM
>> To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
>> Subject: Windscreen install before panel?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thoughts on whether or not to install the windscreen before panel? I
>>> can't think of any particular reason why not other than the cabin
>>> will get warmer due to reduced circulation while crawling around.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 82907#282907
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Jim Berry
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: Windscreen install before panel? |
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Larry,
I don't foresee any quagmires, but I do have a few questions and suggestions. I am not sure if your list is just the stuff that needs to be done, or a proposed work sequence.
1. If by interior trim panels you mean the sheet metal, there is really not much point in putting it in yet. It looks kind of cool to see it in, but it is going to need to come back out for final inspection. Even if you are compulsive about planning your fuselage wiring & plumbing, I can almost guarantee there will be something that needs to be changed.
2. There is no need to rivet the forward fuselage before you final install the cabin top. You can slide the forward fuselage on and off with the cabin top in place. I would put off riveting the forward fuselage as long as possible, which means everything on your list except the windscreen and wings.
3. Make absolutely sure you have made any/all modifications to your subpanel before you rivet the forward fuselage. Having to cut access for long avionics or mount components on the subpanel after it is installed is an absolute pita.
4. I don't see doors. You are going to love doing those.
5. Baffling will have to come after fitting the cowl. I am not sure about the plenum since I don't have one.
6. There are a few rivets in the upper firewall to forward fuselage ribs that are very difficult to access with the engine in place. You will want 2 sets of very small, but highly trained hands to help with this step.
Have fun.
Jim Berry
40482
N15JB
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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:57 pm Post subject: Windscreen install before panel? |
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Larry posed the question .... the list is mine!
Jim Berry wrote:
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Larry,
I don't foresee any quagmires, but I do have a few questions and
suggestions. I am not sure if your list is just the stuff that needs
to be done, or a proposed work sequence.
Both.
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1. If by interior trim panels you mean the sheet metal, there is
really not much point in putting it in yet. It looks kind of cool to
see it in, but it is going to need to come back out for final
inspection. Even if you are compulsive about planning your fuselage
wiring & plumbing, I can almost guarantee there will be something
that needs to be changed.
I ran sufficient conduit so adding wires shouldn't be a problem. I also
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might pose a problem.
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2. There is no need to rivet the forward fuselage before you final
install the cabin top. You can slide the forward fuselage on and off
with the cabin top in place. I would put off riveting the forward
fuselage as long as possible, which means everything on your list
except the windscreen and wings.
Good point. The cabin top and the forward upper fuse are my final
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'close out' items since I really don't want them in the way.
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3. Make absolutely sure you have made any/all modifications to your
subpanel before you rivet the forward fuselage. Having to cut access
for long avionics or mount components on the subpanel after it is
installed is an absolute pita.
I'm there now. My transponder is the only deep item. such a shame to
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do so much work stiffening the hole for a couple of inches.
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4. I don't see doors. You are going to love doing those.
My doors are hung .... going through the process to add the
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McMaster-Carr seals. Lots of grinding/filling on the door jambs.
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5. Baffling will have to come after fitting the cowl. I am not sure
about the plenum since I don't have one.
I think you're right. Good call.
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6. There are a few rivets in the upper firewall to forward fuselage
ribs that are very difficult to access with the engine in place. You
will want 2 sets of very small, but highly trained hands to help with
this step.
Only the engine mount will be installed prior to attachment of the upper
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fuselage. I have stuff to mount on the engine side of the firewall so
need clearance and maintenance room.
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Have fun.
Fun??? Well, I am enjoying the journey. This is far more complex than
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building my Pitts ...... but the fun will come in the flying. My brain
keeps the tune 'I'm a traveling man, made a lot of stop, all over the
world ...... I want to see a lot more of my country before I croak!!!
Thanks for the guidance!!!
Linn
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rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:24 pm Post subject: Windscreen install before panel? |
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Linn;
All looks like what I did/am doing. I might suggest you do the cowl before
the baffles, I noticed that it was easier to fit/adjust the baffles to the
correct cowl mating than it would be to make the cowls line up and fit
around the baffles. I had a heck of a time with my cowls they were warped
and took loads of work just to align so I am glad I did my cowls before the
baffles.
I really would hold off on riveting the upper forward fusellage until after
step #10. The engine can be mounted without concern of the piece being
riveted on, I have had it this way for months .
Pascal
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From: "Linn Walters" <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 4:24 PM
To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Windscreen install before panel?
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I guess I have 4 pennies in here now!!
I'll bolt on the engine mount so I can mount stuff on the firewall prior
to riveting on the forward upper fuselage. I think I'll put it on the gear
just before mounting the engine. My proposed schedule would be:
1) fit the cabin top brace
2) complete the wiring ..... My panel will be connectorized for easy
removal and the wirng to the fuselage will either be coiled up with the
forward upper fuselage, or attached after it's riveted on.
3) prepare the inside of the cabin top ..... in process now .... getting
ready to lay up the overhead console. Might include painting on inside.
4) install all the interior trim panels and seats.
5) river forward upper fuselage.
6) install cabin top.
7) get on the gear.
hang engine.
9) baffling .... make plenum.
10) attach cowl
11) install windows and windscreen.
12) final assembly of wings and tail feathers.
13) final paint ..... wings & tail feathers will be painted after they're
assembled.
If there's a quagmire in the making .... someone let me know!!!
Linn
Larry Rosen wrote:
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> Would there be any issues with completing the tasks listed below prior to
> riveting the forward upper fuselage in place
> Fit the upper cabin top brace
> Install the engine
> Fit the upper and lower cowls
> Install the cowl baffles
> Fit the windscreen
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> Larry Rosen
> Starting building after a year away
> Linn Walters wrote:
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>> <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net>
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>> My two pennies: for me, the last two items that get riveted on are the
>> forward upper fuselage and the cabin top. Almost all the wiring will be
>> done prior to attaching the forward upper fuselage. Before you are
>> ready to attach the windshield, fit the windshield and then use a
>> sharpie to mark the outside edge on the fuselage top. Paint the forward
>> fuselage top with a flat black paint .... look for 'textured' black in
>> rattle can.
>> Linn
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>> Pascal wrote:
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>>> if you mean the actual front of the panel, installing the components.
>>> no problem if you mean setting up the wiring and layout I would get all
>>> that backend stuff done first, get all the wires positioned than close
>>> out the upper fusellage and install the windscreen. This will help with
>>> where to position your fans in relation to the avionics but more
>>> importantly it will allow you to get easy access to move/route wires
>>> around if they don't fit in a certain place.
>>> Pascal
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>>> From: "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:53 AM
>>> To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>
>>> Subject: Windscreen install before panel?
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>>>> Thoughts on whether or not to install the windscreen before panel? I
>>>> can't think of any particular reason why not other than the cabin will
>>>> get warmer due to reduced circulation while crawling around.
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>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jay
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>>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 82907#282907
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MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:10 am Post subject: Windscreen install before panel? |
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| Quote: | > 6. There are a few rivets in the upper firewall to forward fuselage
> ribs that are very difficult to access with the engine in place. You
> will want 2 sets of very small, but highly trained hands to help with
> this step.
I forgot about those rivets - really perverse.
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> Have fun.
Fun??? Well, I am enjoying the journey. This is far more complex
than building my Pitts ...... but the fun will come in the flying. My
brain keeps the tune 'I'm a traveling man, made a lot of stop, all
over the world ...... I want to see a lot more of my country before I
croak!!!
Went to see "Up in the Air" last night (Clooney). A moving little movie
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human connections and such, but the great aerial shots scattered
throughout had me longing for some flight... and not the airline style
of slumming around. It's ironic that we've done less flying during the
last 3 years of rolling our own, than we did in the previous 20. It's
been some of the most interesting aviation play ever but sure am missing
the clouds, and the places, and the people at those places. It's hard
to buck up for a 400 mile slog in the Maule when dreaming of '10! But
flying is flying - need a vacation.
Bill "flying the '10 in 10" Watson
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Jim Berry
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Posts: 237
Location: Denver
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:44 am Post subject: Re: Windscreen install before panel? |
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Linn,
Sorry for the misattribution on your list. You are right about the Pitts being much simpler. I did a plans built Pitts S1S about 30 years ago. While building all those ribs and stitching was repetitious, it was a stone simple airplane. Also, access was great. There wasn't anything that you couldn't get both hands on. The -10 wont be nearly as much fun, but my wife is looking forward to something she can enjoy flying. She did one take off and landing in the Pitts, and said never again.
Jim Berry
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N15JB
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