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Kearney(at)shaw.ca
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:19 am Post subject: Construction Sequence

Hi All 

I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo build fuse. Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the amount of space available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as close as possible.  

As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I see that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a small space problem. 

When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope must include the provision that she be able to park her car in the garage during the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the requirent that she be able to open her car door whilst in the garage was a scope change and subject to negotiation. Considerng the untenable position I was in, I immediatel capitualted. 

 I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point the tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for the tail control surfaces or wings to be attached.  

My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines in this aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave the wings / engine / tail control surfaces to the very last. 

Cheers 

Les 

#40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues 

  

  

  

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rene(at)felker.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: Construction Sequence

I mounted the tail control surfaces for fitting but then removed them and followed the path you are on except I did build my wings …90% point….before I started on the fuselage.  I mated the tail and fuselage and put the cabin top on etc. Once I got to that point, I had to move to the hanger……I did have to rearrange my garage layout once my wife figured out that she could not get in and out of her car while it was in the garage……  

   

Also, I stored my 90% wings in the hanger while I worked on the fuselage.  

     

Rene' Felker  

N423CF  

40322  

801-721-6080  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of LES KEARNEY

 Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:18 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Construction Sequence  

  

   

Hi All  

I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo build fuse. Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the amount of space available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as close as possible.   

As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I see that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a small space problem.  

When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope must include the provision that she be able to park her car in the garage during the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the requirent that she be able to open her car door whilst in the garage was a scope change and subject to negotiation. Considerng the untenable position I was in, I immediatel capitualted.  

 I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point the tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for the tail control surfaces or wings to be attached.   

My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines in this aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave the wings / engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.  

Cheers  

Les  

#40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues  

   

   

   

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Kearney(at)shaw.ca
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:58 am Post subject: Construction Sequence

Rene

  6nbsp;

 It is reassuring to know that I am not the only plan deviant on the list  E E E Where there ny  2gotchas 2 to be careful about?

  6nbsp;

 Cheers

  6nbsp;

 Les

  340643 - Still singing the section 9 blues



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2881

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: Construction Sequence

I've got 2 great options for you (her):



1) Do you have any exposed turf on your property?  You could

build yourself another garage for her, or better yet, a

nice 36 x 36 heated/insulated/Cable Equipped work area.



2) I think if you check around you may still be able to find

Yugos, or Geo Metros, or if you want to treat her really special

perhaps a mini cooper.  That might just give you enough

leeway.



Sorry, just couldn't resist.



As for your question, I don't think you really need to mount any

tail surfaces at all until you are just prepping for paint or

perhaps even after.  No big deal doing those during final assembly,

but you'll want to trim the intersection fairing before painting

or be super careful anyway.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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LES KEARNEY wrote:

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		   Hi All

 

 I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo build 

 fuse. Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the amount 

 of space available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as 

 close as possible.

 

 As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I see 

 that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a small 

 space problem.

 

 When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope 

 _must_ include the provision that she be able to park her car in the 

 garage during the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the 

 requirent that she be able to open her car door whilst in the garage was 

 a scope change and subject to negotiation. Considerng the untenable 

 position I was in, I immediatel capitualted.

 

  I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point the 

 tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for the tail 

 control surfaces or wings to be attached.

 

 My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines in 

 this aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave the 

 wings / engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.

 

 Cheers

 

 Les

 

 #40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

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kearney(at)shaw.ca
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:03 am Post subject: Construction Sequence

Tim



I do not mess with "She who must be obeyed". Especially when she has largely

turned a blind eye to what I am doing most free hours in the garage. Your

space saving "suggestions" shall be given the consideration they deserve....



I'll check out the intersection fairing as you suggest. It should not be a

problem as my painter wants me to fly off a few hours before painting.



Cheers



Les

#40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues

 

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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: Construction Sequence

Les

 what I did was to mount the empennage and drill and rig  everything while it was just the tail cone, then I took it all apart and stored  the emp until final assembly. Then that left me free to attach the tail cone and  move forward.

 Dan

 N289DT RV10E Flying



   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of LES  KEARNEY

Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 12:18 PM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Construction  Sequence

 

 

Hi All 

I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo build fuse.  Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the amount of space  available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as close as possible.   

As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I see that  the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a small space  problem. 

When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope  must include the provision that she be able to park her car in the garage  during the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the requirent that she  be able to open her car door whilst in the garage was a scope change and subject  to negotiation. Considerng the untenable position I was in, I immediatel  capitualted. 

 I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point the  tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for the tail control  surfaces or wings to be attached.  

My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines in this  aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave the wings /  engine / tail control surfaces to the very last. 

Cheers 

Les 

#40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues 

  

  

  

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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:07 am Post subject: Construction Sequence

The fairing he is referring to is the wing root intersection fairing and

one of the biggest pains to get right. It is just a series of trial and

fits. We had the wings painted and no paint on the fuse and still ended

up scratching the side of the fuse pretty good. 

Dan 



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rene(at)felker.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:33 am Post subject: Construction Sequence

I can not think of any problems.  After doing my final assembly, I was glade that I had fitted the tail feathers early since I was able to do it at a lower working height.  I had the tail set just high enough off the ground to be able to put the rudder on.  Once the airplane is on its gear, us short people need a stool to be able to do anything with the tail.  

     

Rene' Felker  

N423CF  

40322  

801-721-6080  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of LES KEARNEY

 Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:56 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: RE: RV10-List: Construction Sequence  

  

     

Rene  

    

   

    

It is reassuring to know that I am not the only plan deviant on the list ... Where there ny "gotchas" to be careful about?  

    

   

    

Cheers  

    

   

    

Les  

    

#40643 - Still singing the section 9 blues

 

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Kearney(at)shaw.ca
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: Construction Sequence

Rene

  6nbsp;

 Dan made a similar suggestion E I will put the tail together first and then disassemble prior to mating the fuse and tail E 

  6nbsp;

 Thanks for the advice E

  6nbsp;

  E ELes



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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:12 pm Post subject: Construction Sequence

Or you could erect one of these to store the parts in temporarily ......

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=42211

or

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=90419



And they're on sale right now ..... which means you're saving money by 

buying it! 

C'mon now .... she uses the same rationale, doesn't she???

Linn

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Tim Olson wrote:



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 I've got 2 great options for you (her):



 1) Do you have any exposed turf on your property?  You could

 build yourself another garage for her, or better yet, a

 nice 36 x 36 heated/insulated/Cable Equipped work area.



 2) I think if you check around you may still be able to find

 Yugos, or Geo Metros, or if you want to treat her really special

 perhaps a mini cooper.  That might just give you enough

 leeway.



 Sorry, just couldn't resist.



 As for your question, I don't think you really need to mount any

 tail surfaces at all until you are just prepping for paint or

 perhaps even after.  No big deal doing those during final assembly,

 but you'll want to trim the intersection fairing before painting

 or be super careful anyway.

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

 do not archive

 LES KEARNEY wrote:



> Hi All

>

> I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo 

> build fuse. Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by 

> the amount of space available in my garage and my desire to keep the 

> project as close as possible.

>

> As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I 

> see that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a 

> small space problem.

>

> When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope 

> _must_ include the provision that she be able to park her car in the 

> garage during the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the 

> requirent that she be able to open her car door whilst in the garage 

> was a scope change and subject to negotiation. Considerng the 

> untenable position I was in, I immediatel capitualted.

>

>  I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point 

> the tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for 

> the tail control surfaces or wings to be attached.

>

> My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines 

> in this aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to 

> leave the wings / engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.

>

> Cheers

>

> Les

>

> #40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues

>

>  

>

>  

>

>  

>

>  

>

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joe(at)rvbuildernet.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: Construction Sequence

Your build sequence is the same as I have planed   

So it sounds good to me   

Joe Rhodes 40744  

Just starting   

Rvbuildernet.com  

   

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of LES KEARNEY

 Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 12:18 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Construction Sequence  

  

   

Hi All  

I have been building a bit out of sequence - tail first then slo build fuse. Last will be QB wings. This has been largely driven by the amount of space available in my garage and my desire to keep the project as close as possible.   

As winter aproaches and and look forward to completing section 29, I see that the tailcone attachment is not far off. This may cause a small space problem.  

When I started this project, my wife agreed that the project scope must include the provision that she be able to park her car in the garage during the winter. Unfortunately she did not agree that the requirent that she be able to open her car door whilst in the garage was a scope change and subject to negotiation. Considerng the untenable position I was in, I immediatel capitualted.  

 I still have enough space in the garage to continue up to the point the tail and fuse are mated. I don't have enough space to allow for the tail control surfaces or wings to be attached.   

My question for those who have gone before: are there any landmines in this aproach that I need to be concerned about. My plan is to leave the wings / engine / tail control surfaces to the very last.  

Cheers  

Les  

#40643 - Still singing the section 29 blues  

   

   

   

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rnewman(at)tcwtech.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: Construction Sequence

Joe,

  

 I'm well into section 33 and recently completed the  endurance test, sec 29.  I've built in order.   my wings and tail  are all done.  Its been a slow build kit all the way..  So far I can't  see any issue.   I've had my wings in long term storage and have not  had to visit them once during the fuse assembly.   Occansionally, I'd  stop by and say howdy,  but have not needed them to build  from..   Note.  When you do get the fuse attached to the  tail cone the airplane gets very long!    Also, the side  steps get permanently attached somewhere around sect 32 and the thing then is  kinda wide too!   

       Changing  subjects,  One of our glastars was built under a similar garage negotiation  arrangement  and it was so tight for space that I had to disconnect the  garage door opener so she didn't accidentally try to raise the door and crash it  into the tail feathers.      but it all worked out  fine.

  

 Bob Newman

 TCW Technologies

 www.tcwtech.com

  

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