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				|  Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject: G Load testing |   |  
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				| I have seen a few photos on the group over the years with
a/c inverted and bags of sand, concrete, gold coins etc stacked
 evenly on the wings to simulate the G loading, question is how are
 people supporting the weight for this test through the fuselage itself
 obviously the top of the cockpit would be insufficient to take such a load
 of what 8000+ pounds, assuming 6g x 1370lb, or do I have the math wrong on
 this
 
 my thoughts were it may be easier to keep the A/C upright and load the
 weight
 into the cockpit with the whole lot supported by cradle and a few extra
 supports under each wing
 
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		| grahamsingleton(at)btinte Guest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:46 am    Post subject: G Load testing |   |  
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				| wrong thought Craig. It has to be done the standard way. Design load is 4.5 G (from dilute memory)
Don't try it without a qualified Inspector, easy to break something.
 Graham
 
 From: craig <craigb(at)onthenet.com.au>
 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
 Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2013, 0:00
 Subject: Europa-List: G Load testing
 
 
 -->  Europa-List message posted by: "craig" <craigb(at)onthenet.com.au (craigb(at)onthenet.com.au)>
 
 I have seen a few photos on the group over the years with
 a/c inverted and bags of sand, concrete, gold coins etc stacked
 evenly on the wings to simulate the G loading, question is how are
 people supporting the weight for this test through the fuselage itself
 obviously the top of the cockpit would be insufficient to take such a load
 of what 8000+ pounds, assuming 6g x 1370lb, or do I have the math wrong on
 this
 
 my thoughts were it may be easier to keep the A/C upright and load the
 weight
 into the cockpit with the whole lot supported by cradle and-> http://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.======================
 
 
 
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		| craigb(at)onthenet.com.au Guest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:52 am    Post subject: G Load testing |   |  
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				| Yes but doesn’t there have to be a 50% safety margin on g load  
After all you could pull nearly 6 g in a turn (80 degrees bank) taking
 Evasive action for example.
 
 But back to the original question how does one support the a/c adequately for the testing in the inverted
 position
 
 From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRAHAM SINGLETON
 Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 6:44 PM
 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: G Load testing
 
 
 
 wrong thought Craig. It has to be done the standard way. Design load is 4.5 G (from dilute memory)
 Don't try it without a qualified Inspector, easy to break something.
 Graham
 
 
 
 From: craig <craigb(at)onthenet.com.au>
 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
 Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2013, 0:00
 Subject: G Load testing
 
 
 --> Europa-List message posted by: "craig" <craigb(at)onthenet.com.au (craigb(at)onthenet.com.au)>
 
 I have seen a few photos on the group over the years with
 a/c inverted and bags of sand, concrete, gold coins etc stacked
 evenly on the wings to simulate the G loading, question is how are
 people supporting the weight for this test through the fuselage itself
 obviously the top of the cockpit would be insufficient to take such a load
 of what 8000+ pounds, assuming 6g x 1370lb, or do I have the math wrong on
 this
 
 my thoughts were it may be easier to keep the A/C upright and load the
 weight
 into the cockpit with the whole lot supported by cradle and-> http://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.======================
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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		| Gilles.Thesee(at)ac-greno Guest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:06 am    Post subject: G Load testing |   |  
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				| craig a écrit :
  	  | Quote: |  	  | Yes but doesn’t there have to be a 50% safety margin on g load
 
 Graig and all,
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 The 50 % margin is for calculation only, especially in a homebuilt.
 Contrary to popular belief, the 4.5 g load for instance, is a
 once-in-a-lifetime limit not to be inflicted on the airframe repeatedly.
 Safe load is considered to be approximately 80% of certified load.
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | After all you could pull nearly 6 g in a turn (80 degrees bank) taking 
 Evasive action for example.
 
 Any airplane can break in flight if mishandled.
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 It would take a really ham fisted pilot to reach as high as 6g.
 Additionally in peacetime I would advise to only perform avoiding
 actions
   
 Best regards,
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 Gilles
 http://contrails.free.fr
 
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