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n8vim(at)arrl.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:23 am Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

Anyone using any wing root connectors (between inboard section of the 

wing and the fuselage) for the wiring?



If you are, or have thought about using them, which ones are you using?



I have already decided to have connectors there, so that decision is 

made already. I am just at a loss for what is "standard" for connectors 

there.



-Jim 40384 (60 Degrees F today, expecting 4" snow tonight... Isn't New 

England wonderful?)

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2881

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

I don't know if there is a standard, but I know Randy used the big

black round CPC connectors.

Example: http://www.abletronics.com/ampconnectors/cpcseries1.html



I bought a bunch of various CPC connectors that I had planned to use

but they're all still sitting in their packages.  I ended up

in favor of continuous strands.  Some day I'll dig them out and

itemize them and offer them up for sale.  Mouser.com is a great place

to buy them.  They aren't really that cheap when you start to add in

the costs of pins, crimpers, and all the other stuff.  They are

nice connectors though, if you are going to use them.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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James Hein wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Anyone using any wing root connectors (between inboard section of the 

 wing and the fuselage) for the wiring?

 

 If you are, or have thought about using them, which ones are you using?

 

 I have already decided to have connectors there, so that decision is 

 made already. I am just at a loss for what is "standard" for connectors 

 there.

 

 -Jim 40384 (60 Degrees F today, expecting 4" snow tonight... Isn't New 

 England wonderful?)

LarryRosen

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 415
Location: Medford, NJ

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

William Curtis also used the AMP CPC connectors for the wing root wiring.

Here is a photo from his site 

<http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/07Wings/wings95k.html>

And a link to the Mouser catalog page 

<http://www.mouser.com/catalog/624/914.pdf>



Our friends at D2A  also used these in their RV-10 wiring harness.



Larry Rosen

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

CPC connectors from mouser.com are great.  I use series 1  free-hanging connectors for all wiring and just normal BNC's for coax.  For the strobes I use 4 pins with the 4th being for the un-insulated wire.  This allows you to wire the whole plane before installing the wings.  I also use these in the

Wingtips and anywhere else that I want to be able to disconnect in the future to work on stuff.



Call me if you have more questons about this.



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

352-427-0285



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wcurtis(at)nerv10.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

Here is the link:http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/07Wings/wings95k.htmlDetailed part numbers are here:http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/90Electrical/RV10Electrical_v3b.pdfWilliamhttp://wcurtis.nerv10.com/  ---- ---------------------- ----------------------------------------------------> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen William Curtis also used the AMP CPC connectors for the wing root wiring.Here is a photo from his site And a link to the Mouser catalog page Our friends at D2A  also used these in their RV-10 wiring harness.    [quote][b]

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

I know of no standard.  I find Molex connectors to be the easiest to use 

and most of them are keyed so they only plug in one way.  In the wing 

root and tips where they have the possibility of getting wet, I spray 

them liberally with Boshield.

Linn

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James Hein wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Anyone using any wing root connectors (between inboard section of the 

 wing and the fuselage) for the wiring?



 If you are, or have thought about using them, which ones are you using?



 I have already decided to have connectors there, so that decision is 

 made already. I am just at a loss for what is "standard" for 

 connectors there.



 -Jim 40384 (60 Degrees F today, expecting 4" snow tonight... Isn't New 

 England wonderful?)

orchidman

Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 277
Location: Oklahoma City - KRCE

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: Wing Root Connectors

 	  pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth. wrote: 	
		    In the wing 

root and tips where they have the possibility of getting wet, I spray 

them liberally with Boshield.

Linn 	


OK I'll bite.  What is Boshield?

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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

orchidman wrote:

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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth. wrote:

        	  Quote: 	
		    In the wing 

root and tips where they have the possibility of getting wet, I spray 

them liberally with Boshield.

Linn

    	
   

OK I'll bite.  What is Boshield? 	
 	
 Sorry, non-edible.   

 Boshield can be found at any good boat store.  Excellent for use as a moisture shield.  I believe it was developed by Boeing (the 'bo' part but that may be urban legend too) for corrosion/moisture protection.  You can buy it  in spray can or gallon can, and when diluted it makes a great corrosion proofer ala ACF-50 and the like.  Doesn't seem to attract dust/dirt like the CRC line.

 Linn

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Gary Blankenbiller

RV10 - # 40674

(N410GB reserved)

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Read this topic online here:



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jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.c
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

I used the CPC connectors and really like them. Got them from Mouser. Here

are the art numbers"



571-2060364                4.260     

         AMP Series 1 Two Pie

         RECEPTACLE 16 PIN   



571-2060371              2.820      

         AMP Series 1 CPC Cir

         PLUG 16 POSITION    



571-661033                  0.360       

         AMP Series 1 CPC Cir

         PIN  24-20          

They also have larger AWG pins



571-661053              0.430           

         AMP Series 1 CPC Cir

         SOCKET TERM 24-20   



571-2060701                  3.20

         AMP CPC Accessories 

         STD CABLE CLAMP 17   



I ended up using 2 connectors on one wing after adding 2 outside air probes

and 2 magnatometers



John Testement

jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com

40321

Richmond, VA

Paint prep and LOTS of misc stuff

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wcurtis(at)nerv10.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

Boeshield is good but I use the more readily available OX-100 Oxyguard anti oxidant paste available at Loews/HD (aviation) electrical department.http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/08fuselage/images/fuselage35j.jpgWilliamhttp://wcurtis.nerv10.com/  --> RV10-List message posted by: "orchidman" pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth. wrote:> In the wing > root and tips where they have the possibility of getting wet, I spray > them liberally with Boshield.> LinnOK I'll bite. What is Boshield?--------Gary BlankenbillerRV10 - # 40674(N410GB reserved)do not archiveRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102693#1026=====================    [quote][b]

DAVELEIKAM(at)wi.rr.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

Yes designed by Boeing.  I will be using this  product on interior surfaces instead of primer, after final exterior  finishing.  (Shhhhhhhhh.)

 http://boeshield.com/index.htm

 Dave Leikam

 40496

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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

I plan on using something that no one else has mentioned.  Where there is a 

simple positive/ negative connection, I plan on using something that is used 

extensively in radio controlled vehicle electrical systems, They are called 

Deen's connectors.



Link:



http://www.heli-world.com/detail.aspx?ID=418



I've used them in my sailplane



JOhn G. 409

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		  From: James Hein <n8vim(at)arrl.net>

Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Wing Root Connectors

Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:20:56 -0400






Anyone using any wing root connectors (between inboard section of the wing 

and the fuselage) for the wiring?



If you are, or have thought about using them, which ones are you using?



I have already decided to have connectors there, so that decision is made 

already. I am just at a loss for what is "standard" for connectors there.



-Jim 40384 (60 Degrees F today, expecting 4" snow tonight... Isn't New 

England wonderful?)

owl40188(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:57 am Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

John

  

 Which crimping tool did you use?

  

 Niko

 40188

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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

The one that Stein sells for $31 or so.  It seems to work great with the open pins, which Series 1 CPC’s are.  If you are going to have all small wires, then going with Series 2 is “better” because they have barrel pins, but then you have to do something else with your strobes, landing lights, pitot heat, etc, so you are really stuck with the Series 1 for the wing root.  Stein sells it as a crimper for Molex type pins, which the CPC’s look like, but are better.  Also, there are 3-4 different qualify of CPC pins and I get the best or second best of two sizes, 18-16 and 24-20.  The pins are the most expensive part of the system (and arguably by far the most important).  

     

Jesse Saint  

Saint Aviation, Inc.  

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  

www.saintaviation.com  

Cell: 352-427-0285  

Fax: 815-377-3694  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Niko

 Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:56 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Wing Root Connectors  

  

       

John  

    

   

    

Which crimping tool did you use?  

    

   

    

Niko  

    

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jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.c
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

I don't know the model  but bought the crimp tool for various sizes of molex pins from Stein. I would  call SteinAir.com for the crimpers,

  

  John Testement

jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com (jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com)

40321

 Richmond, VA

Paint prep and LOTS of misc  stuff

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   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of  Niko

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:56 AM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Wing Root  Connectors

 

  John

  

 Which  crimping tool did you use?

  

 Niko

 40188

 -----  Original Message ----

From: John Testement  <jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com>

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Sent:  Saturday, March 24, 2007 9:16:11 PM

Subject: RE: Wing Root  Connectors



 --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Testement"  <jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com>



I used the CPC connectors and really  like them. Got them from Mouser. Here

are the art  numbers"



571-2060364                4.260      

         AMP Series 1 Two  Pie

         RECEPTACLE 16  PIN    



571-2060371              2.820      

          AMP Series 1 CPC Cir

         PLUG 16  POSITION    



571-661033                  0.360        

         AMP Series 1 CPC  Cir

          PIN  24-20          

They  also have larger AWG  pins



571-661053              0.430            

         AMP Series 1 CPC  Cir

         SOCKET TERM  24-20    



571-2060701                  3.20

          AMP CPC Accessories 

         STD  CABLE CLAMP 17   



I ended up using 2 connectors on one wing  after adding 2 outside air probes

and 2 magnatometers



John  Testement

jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com

40321

Richmond, VA

Paint prep and  LOTS of misc stuff

do not archive

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From:  owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com

[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com]  On Behalf Of James Hein

Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 2:21 PM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Wing Root  Connectors



--> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein  <n8vim(at)arrl.net>



Anyone using any wing root connectors (between  inboard section of the wing

and the fuselage) for the wiring?



If you  are, or have thought about using them, which ones are you using?



I have  already decided to have connectors there, so that decision is made

already. I  am just at a loss for what is "standard" for connectors there.



-Jim 40384  (60 Degrees F today, expecting 4" snow tonight... Isn't New

England  wonderful?)





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owl40188(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:22 am Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

I am going to use the Series 2 for the autopilot servo and Series 1 for the Lights etc as you mention.  Thanks for the info.

  

 Niko

 40188

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jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.c
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: Wing Root Connectors

Niko,

  

 Just in case you didn't  realize it you can use the series 1 for multiple size pins. I used one connector  for lights, pitot and servos and a 4 pin Molex for the strobe (ran the wiring  separated from the rest).

  

  John Testement

jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com (jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com)

40321

 Richmond, VA

Paint prep and LOTS of misc  stuff

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   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of  Niko



 

  I am  going to use the Series 2 for the autopilot servo and Series 1 for the Lights  etc as you mention.  Thanks for the info.

  

 Niko

 40188

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The one that Stein  sells for $31 or so.  It seems to work great with the open pins, which  Series 1 CPC’s are.  If you are going to have all small wires, then going  with Series 2 is “better” because they have barrel pins, but then you have to do  something else with your strobes, landing lights, pitot heat, etc, so you are  really stuck with the Series 1 for the wing root.  Stein sells it as a  crimper for Molex type pins, which the CPC’s look like, but are better.   Also, there are 3-4 different qualify of CPC pins and I get the best or second  best of two sizes, 18-16 and 24-20.  The pins are the most expensive part  of the system (and arguably by far the most important). 

   

Jesse  Saint 

 





 

  

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