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rowedenny(at)windstream.n
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:36 am Post subject: 582 ignition trigger wires

Folks,

 My buddy Dave who recently bought the Slingshot has  discovered that the red/white ignition trigger wires coming out of the 582 have  insulation that has turned soft, almost gummy. Does not appear to have been  caused by high current but seems to maybe be a chemical reaction.

 Has anyone else with a 582 seen this happen?   Its only the trigger wires, the other wires coming out of the engine  have good insulation.  It seems like Rotax used crappy wire for their  ignition triggers at some point.

 Thanks,

 Denny Rowe, Mk-3,  PA 

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jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:10 am Post subject: 582 ignition trigger wires

I`ve been having an intermittent tach problem,  & upon close examination on my 582, the yellow/black & Black/yellow  wires are now so soft, I can induce fraying rubbing hard with my fingers! I`m  having them replaced tommorrow eve on my 582. I can`t speak about the red ones  yet though.   Jim

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:22 am Post subject: 582 ignition trigger wires

Jim:

  

 You all spoke with Kodiak about the problem?

  

 To me, that is a serious one.

  

 Some years ago Kodiak went through a alternator stator  exchange program because of improper insulation on wiring.

  

 john h

  

  

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   I`ve been having an intermittent tach problem,    & upon close examination on my 582, the yellow/black & Black/yellow    wires are now so soft, I can induce fraying rubbing hard with my fingers! I`m    having them replaced tommorrow eve on my 582. I can`t speak about the red ones    yet though.   Jim

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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:42 am Post subject: 582 ignition trigger wires

John, I have a Rotax trained tech coming Thurs PM  to look at this. This engine was overhauled by Ronnie at South Ms Light  Aircraft  Dec 2006 & was put into service this May. Ronnie called  it "0" timed". Ronnie came highly recommended.

 When I installed it, both Oil injection lines  leaked, they had not been replaced.Now, the wiring condition is suspect. I  will go to another service agent in the future. I`ll pick your brain next week  after I get a verdict thursday PM on these wires. Thanks for the  input,   Jim---

rowedenny(at)windstream.n
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: 582 ignition trigger wires

Sounds like this might be one of those John, I'll  try to get the S/N from Dave tonight and call Kodiak.

 Denny

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jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: 582 ignition trigger wires

Well, I had my Rotax guy come look at my wiring on  my 582 last night, & I showed him these posts. He agreed that I should start  by calling Rotax & see about the replacement Stator. Also  of note ,  the gray Tach wire showed a   0 Ohm reading.

 Called Lockwood, they said that Stator / bad wiring  situation was on 912`s ONLY, a few years back, and the best thing to do was to  clip the connectors off the wires, sleeve them with heat shrink tubing to  re-insulate them & fly on. Then when I mentioned the Bad Ohm reading on the  meter, he said that there was indeed a bad coil in the stator & If I wanted  that fixed the only was was to replace the stator.

 Over $600. & I hope to have it installed in  time for a Flight to London KY next week.

 Jim

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:44 am Post subject: 582 ignition trigger wires

Jim K:

  

 Probably find a used one.  However, I would feel  better with a new one even even though it was overpriced.

  

 john h

 [quote]    Over $600. & I    hope to have it installed in time for a Flight to London KY next    week.

   Jim

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Titus, Alabama

jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:55 am Post subject: 582 ignition trigger wires

I Never thought about a used one, but, I guess I  would always wonder about its condition. Anyway, the new one is supposed to be  here Tuesday, my rotax guy sez he`s very busy next week, but I hope he'll work  me in. Jim

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Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: 582 ignition trigger wires

the tac wires on my 582 went bad ( no or low rpm readings )   you can get proper tac readings from other wires on the stator so I  stopped using the gray tac wires and my motor has ben running fine for over 70  hrs now.   how much do you want for your old stator?          malcolm michigan  



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Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: 582 ignition trigger wires

Lockwood said the same thing to me when my tach quit working, and implied  that the tach stator failure was a fairly common problem. Got a Tiny Tach that  wraps it's sensing wire around the spark plug wire and have been well  satisfied. Except for the funny looking Tiny Tach on my panel where  the original tach use to be...

  

 Richard Pike

 MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

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jlsk1(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: 582 ignition trigger wires

make an offer,  Jim

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