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n8vim(at)arrl.net
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: Static ports

Joe,

    I think your CAPS LOCK is stuck on. Perhaps you might want to list a 

new keyboard?



Humor intended. 



Mile High Aviation wrote:

[quote] 



 PLEASE CHECK OUT WWW.MILE-HIGH-AVIATION.COM FOR ALL YOUR PILOT AND AIRCRAFT

 SUPPLY NEEDS. IF IT IS NOT LISTED I CAN ORDER IT.. NEW PRODUCTS LISTED EVERY

 HOUR. 



 401-228-6677



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2881

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:01 am Post subject: Static ports

To me then it sounds as if you have something else wrong in

the system.  First, your flat ports had lots more error

than other people with those ports.  And now, your domed

ports have a similar amount of further error of of

domed ports.  It sounds like there's something else inherent

to your airframe or static system that's causing the problem

right now. Have you thoroughly leak checked it?



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Sam Marlow wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I have the new domed set. It helped, from the original flat units, they 

 were about 15 to 20 kts off. So newer is better, but still not very 

 close to accurate.

 I saw Richard at OSH this year, and ask him about the error, he said the 

 positioning was just a best guess, and you can put them anywhere if it 

 works. He didn't have a problem on his 10, he though his was right on 

 the money. Richard is the kind of guy you can talk to, to bad the people 

 that answer the support line don't share this attribute.

 

 

 Tim Olson wrote:

> 

>

> Qualify that a bit more though.  Do you have the OLD Cleveland

> ports with the flat face, or the NEW cleveland ports with the

> domed face?  The old ones had that amount of error, but I

> see more like 2Kts with the new.

>

> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

> do not archive

> Sam Marlow wrote:

>> 

>>

>> I have the Cleveland static ports, they have a 6 to 8 kt error, 

>> directly compared to others while formation flying.

>> Sam

>>

>> rv(at)thelefflers.com wrote:

>>> 

>>>

>>> SafeAir has a solution that should work.

>>>

>>> What's on my Cherokee is the same valve as the fuel drain.

>>>

>>>  

>>>> From: John Ackerman <johnag5b(at)cableone.net>

>>>> Date: 2007/10/25 Thu AM 09:07:59 EST

>>>> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Static ports

>>>>

>>>> 

>>>>

>>>> Does anybody have a source for a valve that will open the static  

>>>> system (1/4" Tygothane plastic tubing in our case) to cabin air?

>>>> normal position would be "closed" of course, so that the static  

>>>> system is only open to the static ports. Alternate position would 

>>>> be  open to the cabin OR to both the cabin and the static ports.

>>>> I'd like to mount one on the far right side of the panel, but 

>>>> can't  seem to track down a suitable valve.

>>>> Any leads will be greatly appreciated.

>>>> John and Marlys Ackerman

>>>> 40458 "finishing"

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On Oct 25, 2007, at 4:05 AM, Tim Olson wrote:

>>>>

>>>>   

>>>>> 

>>>>>

>>>>> One pair works fine.  What you really want is ALTERNATE static in

>>>>> the cockpit, as a pilot-controllable item.  Your friend is

>>>>> right about the tubing routing, however.  An alternate static can

>>>>> be installed many ways, but it's just a way of opening the static

>>>>> line from inside the cockpit.

>>>>>

>>>>> Tim

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> AirMike wrote:

>>>>>     

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> I was told that I should put an extra set (making 4) static ports

>>>>>> with two dedicated to the TruTrak autopilot. My A&P friend told 

>>>>>> me to

>>>>>> rig each set with the ports on each side of the tail cone and the

>>>>>> connection fittings arching over the top of the tail cone. this arch

>>>>>> prevents water from accumulating in the fittings.

>>>>>> -------- OSH '08 or Bust

>>>>>> Read this topic online here:

>>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141648#141648

>>>>>>         

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>       

>>>>

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>>>

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joe(at)mile-high-aviation
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:02 am Post subject: Static ports

LMAO.. Thanks for the information.. I will list one today.  If any of you

need ANY product please give me an email or call I will gladly help.. and my

prices are not to be beaten. 



Joe AT mile-high-aviation.com   401-228-6677



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2881

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:05 am Post subject: Static ports

Looks like we're going to be blasted by a spammer here.

I see not only do we get the all-caps post, but now we

get more unrequested product info, and I got a personal

email of the same, obviously a harvested address.

When will people learn that this is a sure-fire way

to lose chances at business?



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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James Hein wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Joe,

    I think your CAPS LOCK is stuck on. Perhaps you might want to list a 

 new keyboard?

 

 Humor intended. 

 

 Mile High Aviation wrote:

> 

> <joe(at)mile-high-aviation.com>

>

> PLEASE CHECK OUT WWW.MILE-HIGH-AVIATION.COM FOR ALL YOUR PILOT AND 

> AIRCRAFT

> SUPPLY NEEDS. IF IT IS NOT LISTED I CAN ORDER IT.. NEW PRODUCTS LISTED 

> EVERY

> HOUR.

> 401-228-6677

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2881

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: Static ports

Joe, if you're legit, why spam everyone one every list and everyone to

their personal emails as well, AND, at the bottom of the email, you

don't even have a valid and legitimate Unsubscribe link.

This is the kind of thing that will bring you a very bad name.



Also, nice that you know enough to be "Joe AT mile-high-aviation.com"

to try to keep YOUR name off the spammer's lists, but when YOU'RE

the spammer, you'll harvest them all.  Joe(at)mile-high-aviation.com



This kind of business posting isn't the kind people are looking for.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Mile High Aviation wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 LMAO.. Thanks for the information.. I will list one today.  If any of you

 need ANY product please give me an email or call I will gladly help.. and my

 prices are not to be beaten. 

 

 Joe AT mile-high-aviation.com   401-228-6677

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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: Static ports

Yep, I'll never use them.  I shot an email to Matt and I suggest others do also so he get's banned before we get much more.  I also submitted the domain to my blacklist providers.



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acs(at)acspropeller.com.a
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: Static ports

In Australia, Tc'd or otherwise a set of balanced static ports satisfies the 

requirement for alternate air ( IFR). It would surprise me if we didn't copy 

that info from the FAR's somewhere.

John 40315



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deej(at)deej.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:48 pm Post subject: Static ports

Tim Olson wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 Also, nice that you know enough to be "Joe AT mile-high-aviation.com"

 to try to keep YOUR name off the spammer's lists, but when YOU'RE

 the spammer, you'll harvest them all.  Joe(at)mile-high-aviation.com



 This kind of business posting isn't the kind people are looking for.




	


Tim, I couldn't agree more.  When I saw the first posting, I was a bit

annoyed.  When I saw that a few other mailing lists that I am on also

got spammed by the same message, I got downright ticked off.  Joe, or

whomever you might really be, this is definitely one way to ensure you

won't get any business from the people on these mailing lists.  SPAM ==

EVIL.  Please stop.



-Dj

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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1706
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: Static ports

Who says you have to build to part 23 requirements? CAR3 didn't require 

either one, and neither does Part 91. From what I see, as long as you 

meet Part 91 requirements you are good to go. I flew a CAR3 plane IFR 

for years without alt static and with plain old copper tube pitot . My 

Mooney has heated pitot, but no alternate static, and is IFR certified. 

As long as the static source is as called for on the RV-10 with a port 

on each side and connecting tube arching up to top of fuselage, it will 

take an awful lot to block both ports.



GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   In a message dated 10/25/2007 9:52:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 

 Tim(at)MyRV10.com writes:



     You need a heated pitot tube (FAR 23.1323d) and an alternate static

     source (FAR 23.1325 (b)(3)) for IFR flight.  Wonder how many

     people building an IFR aircraft are taking this into consideration...



 Tim,

  

 Hard to break the face plate on the VSI as an alternate static air if 

 you have all glass!

  

 Patrick



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dlm46007(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: Static ports

If you want alternate static air and  have an EFIS, use a curtiss valve on

the panel into an AN female pipe thread T fitting. This will allow nylon

pipe thread to standard nylon lines into the static system. See attached

picture. See the valve to the left of the Chelton PFD.



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darnpilot(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:40 am Post subject: Static ports

Very nice panel.  One question: your switches and cb's seem kind of random...how did you determine what you wanted where?  I would have thought the switches would be grouped together and the cb's all together too?

 

 That said, I really like it.  Thanks for the photo.

 

 Jeff

 

 

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hotwheels

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 240

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Static ports

Can we see photos of this bad boy installed? The hose side, not from the cabin.



http://www.clippard.com/store/display_details.asp?sku=MTV-3P#



Thanks,

Jay



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dlm46007(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:26 am Post subject: static ports

check the blue fitting

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