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Lew Gallagher



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: qb kit-front floor panels removal and gear mount Reply with quote

Patrick #40715,

I meant to comment on your entry earlier about stripping screws on the side panels. I also had that problem until I decided to bite the bullet and buy a cordless impact driver. I'm sure that's what they were put in with -- mass production, quick build, etc. These drivers are wonderful! I borrowed a friend's Ryobi to try it. My other cordless tools are DeWalt, so I ended up getting that one so I could use my existing batteries and charger. I no longer dread opening and closing panels with the off round nut plates. This is NOT a hammer drill. When it reaches a certain torque, it goes into impact mode. Usually it only takes a tap or two in reverse to loosen, then it functions as a regular electric screw driver. Be careful tightening as it can twist the head off if you over torque it.

Another time saver was a pneumatic pop riveter -- $20 well spent when it comes to popping the floor panels alone!

Later, - Lew


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:07 am    Post subject: qb kit-front floor panels removal and gear mount Reply with quote

What brand and model do you use? Didn't even know they existed
(Googling now).

I use a driver with a T-handle to do this - much slower but it works.
Very useful in removing QB tanks. Pic attached.

Thanks!
Bill Watson
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Patrick #40715,

I meant to comment on your entry earlier about stripping screws on the side panels. I also had that problem until I decided to bite the bullet and buy a cordless impact driver. I'm sure that's what they were put in with -- mass production, quick build, etc. These drivers are wonderful! I borrowed a friend's Ryobi to try it. My other cordless tools are DeWalt, so I ended up getting that one so I could use my existing batteries and charger. I no longer dread opening and closing panels with the off round nut plates. This is NOT a hammer drill. When it reaches a certain torque, it goes into impact mode. Usually it only takes a tap or two in reverse to loosen, then it functions as a regular electric screw driver. Be careful tightening as it can twist the head off if you over torque it.

Another time saver was a pneumatic pop riveter -- $20 well spent when it comes to popping the floor panels alone!

Later, - Lew

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: qb kit-front floor panels removal and gear mount Reply with quote

Bill, Nice tool, but you won't believe how these power drivers will change your life!

Here's a quick shot of the Ryobi on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/Ryobi-18-Volt-Impact-Driver-New-P231_W0QQitemZ280189857137QQihZ018QQcategoryZ71297QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Here's the DeWalt like mine: http://cgi.ebay.com/DeWalt-DW056-18V-Cordless-Impact-Driver-NEW_W0QQitemZ280187210049QQihZ018QQcategoryZ42272QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

They're both similar (both probably made at same place in China) -- and the techno freaks can tell you about torq specs and blows per minute -- just get one or borrow one, you'll like it!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: qb kit-front floor panels removal and gear mount Reply with quote

Just curious? Why would you want an impact driver for screws? Most DC
power drills have a variable setting for screws and are designed to slip at
each setting. I set mine on the lightest one, screw until it slips and go
on. Never had a screw break or bend the platenut and never had one that
would not back out easily. What do you gain with the impact driver ?

BTW, my 7 qb came with a polishing bonnet under the baggage floors Wink No
charge !

Just curious ?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: qb kit-front floor panels removal and gear mount Reply with quote

Bill,

I had trouble not stripping out the Phillip's heads on the side panels that were on the QB fuse -- they were really tight. I even tried the hammer impact driver on some. The advantage of these cordless impact drivers (don't think impact wrench, like lug nut wrenches) is that they end with the impact when they tighten, start with impact when they loosen. You also have no torque on the wrist like you do with the drill/screw drivers. And there's almost no chance of messing up the head of the screw.

Keep what you've got if you're happy with it!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: qb kit-front floor panels removal and gear mount Reply with quote

Actually, Lew, one of the parts of airplane building I like best is
collecting the tools. What's "happy with it" got to do with it! Man, if
that impact "driver" is 2% better,... Well,... I need one don't I ??? More
toys,...

Bill S Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: qb kit-front floor panels removal and gear mount Reply with quote

Bill has my vote for the "Best answer seen to date" award!

I agree 100% with your logic and follow it closely Wink

Marcus

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Actually, Lew, one of the parts of airplane building I like best is
collecting the tools. What's "happy with it" got to do with it! Man, if
that impact "driver" is 2% better,... Well,... I need one don't I ??? More
toys,...

Bill S Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: qb kit-front floor panels removal and gear mount Reply with quote

Too late - I'm going shopping. I was just sharing what I've been doing
so far. This is pure learning experience (not to mention new tool
acquisition)

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Bill,

I had trouble not stripping out the Phillip's heads on the side panels that were on the QB fuse -- they were really tight. I even tried the hammer impact driver on some. The advantage of these cordless impact drivers (don't think impact wrench, like lug nut wrenches) is that they end with the impact when they tighten, start with impact when they loosen. You also have no torque on the wrist like you do with the drill/screw drivers. And there's almost no chance of messing up the head of the screw.

Keep what you've got if you're happy with it!

Later, - Lew

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