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George Myers

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 76
Location: San Marcos, Texas

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:39 am Post subject: Firestar Project

Icom makes a 12V adapter that you can wire into a regulator. I used one for

a few years. Works great. They cost 25 to 35 bucks.



ICOM CP-12L Cigarette Car Adapter A5 A23  CP-12L 



George



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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:18 am Post subject: Firestar Project

Bob B:

  

 I fly with minimum avionics, an ICOM A3 and a  Garmin 196.  The A3 is the smallest and cheapest handheld ICOM offered some  years ago.  It has performed flawlessly for me.  I removed the battery  and operate the radio off the aircraft 12vdc bat.

  

 I have been able to fly wherever I desired in  CONUS, Canada, and Alaska.

  

 I also have a PLB (personal locator beacon with  internal GPS) that operates on 406mz.

  

 I have not found it necessary to load the little  mkIII down with expensive avionics in order to fly and enjoy  traveling.

  

 john h

 mkIII - 2,800+ hours

  

 PS:  Have decided to fly to Homer Kolb's  Fathers Day  Flyin. 

 [quote]    As long as there is some info on radios    going around....  I have an  

Icom A-5,     BB



 

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hauck's holler
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Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: Firestar Project

At 09:07 AM 6/3/2008, George Alexander wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  If you don't have another need for 12V DC, Kuntzleman sells a strobe unit 

that runs directly off the lighting coil.  Saves a few ounces a 

regulator/rectifier would cost you.    ( http://www.kestrobes.com  )


	


That's a thought, though I'd like to have power for my GPS as well... it's 

a handheld and the life of the internal two AAA batteries is limited 

(currently I'm using a pair of C-cells as an external supply).



-Dana

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Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: Firestar Project

At 11:13 AM 6/3/2008, robert bean wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  ...the manual says you

HAVE to buy  an intermediate device to lower the voltage.  The built

in battery pack is crap.

-doesn't hold a charge for very long.  Wonder why they didn't design

it for 12V ?


	


Perhaps 'cuz they can sell you the special adapter?



11V IS kinda weird...



-Dana

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tkrolfe(at)toast.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: Firestar Project

John Hauck wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		    

 john h

 mkIII - 2,800+ hours

  

 PS:  Have decided to fly to Homer Kolb's Fathers Day  Flyin.


	


John,



Great news!  I'm adding you to the list.  Now I need to hear from any of 

you that haven't responded yet and are planning on attending the Homer 

Kolb Fathers Day Fly-in.  I need to let Clara know how many are planning 

on being there so she can make plans for the picnic.  Please let me know 

if your even thinking of coming!!!  Just trying to make things work for 

the Kolb's.



Terry -  FireFly #95

slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: Firestar Project

I guess that's what I'll do then.  Hate to fry the radio by taking a  

chance.

Might even use it someday.

BB (boondocks bob)



BTW, cleaned all the alfalfa off the wires and will put a little  

bondo on

the nose cone bruise.  Have to learn to cruise a little higher for a  

better

choice of landing fields.

That would have been an interesting video of my plane scooting along

on the nose with the tail sticking up out of the hay.  -and fortunate

some helpful soul didn't call the authorities.  I'm sending the good  

samaritan

who drove me to my tools a gift certificate for a nice restaurant.

-like the balloonist's bottle of champagne.

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On 3, Jun 2008, at 11:29 AM, Robert Laird wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I have that "intermediate device" for my Icom that they sell (battery

 eliminator) and have it plugged into the airplane battery, an



   -- Robert

 On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:13 AM, robert bean  

 <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> wrote:

> 

>

> As long as there is some info on radios going around....  I have  

> an Icom

> A-5, never used,

> that I considered mounting on my MkIII.  If you want to use  

> aircraft power

> the manual says you

> HAVE to buy  an intermediate device to lower the voltage.  The  

> built in

> battery pack is crap.

> -doesn't hold a charge for very long.  Wonder why they didn't  

> design it for

> 12V ?  (actually more

> like 14-15V during run time)

> What say you? -and y'all too  

> BB

>

> On 3, Jun 2008, at 9:12 AM, Robert Laird wrote:

>

>> 

>> <rlaird(at)cavediver.com>

>>

>> Bill --

>>

>> As Ellery said, no freebie on the strobe.  The strobe is required if

>> you want to fly that 30 minutes after sunset that FAR 103 allows.

>> There are portable strobes which meet the 3 mile requirement that  

>> you

>> could create a cradle for... but the cradle might weigh as much as a

>> permanent strobe light.

>>

>> For radio, the Yaesu VXA-150, Icom IC-A14, and similar radios with a

>> Lightspeed QFR XC is a really good and inexpensive combination for

>> ULs.  Again, I'd suggest a cradle* over putting it in your pocket...

>> only the cradle itself would count for weight... you strap in the

>> radio to make it more secure during flight.

>>

>>  -- Robert

>>

>> * RAM mounts make terrific cradles for radios

>>

>>

>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:04 AM, william sullivan

>> <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> wrote:

>>>

>>>  I need some ideas on a good, very simple, radio and headset  

>>> combination.

>>> I

>>> would like to tuck the radio in a pocket, rather than install on  

>>> the

>>> plane,

>>> and with an internal antenna. Just a simple starter set.

>>>  Also, on a 103 plane, somebody said there is no weight penalty  

>>> for a

>>> strobe light. Is this true? If so, any recommended ones?

>>>

>>>                                               Bill Sullivan

>>>                                               Windsor Locks, Ct.

>>>                                               FS/KX/447

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> Why did the chicken cross the Mobius strip? To get to the other, er,

>> um....

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>



 -- 

 Why did the chicken cross the Mobius strip? To get to the other,  

 er, um....

ez(at)embarqmail.com
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: Firestar Project

Bob.

A bunch of guys around here use their A-5s wired direct on 12 volt. I   

became a bit concerned about mine when one guy's A-5 went south,  

because I knew my actual voltage was close to 14 volts. I got one of  

those variable volt adaptors at Walmart and have been running mine on  

the 9 volt setting and it has been working just fine. The A-5 will  

work fine wired direct without without batteries but only with the  

double "A" battery holder installed.  It will not power-up if you try  

to use it without a battery  without the double "A "battery holder.  

Not sure why.



Gene



On Jun 3, 2008, at 11:13 AM, robert bean wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   As long as there is some info on radios going around....  I have an  

 Icom A-5, never used,

 that I considered mounting on my MkIII.  If you want to use aircraft  

 power the manual says you

 HAVE to buy  an intermediate device to lower the voltage.  The built  

 in battery pack is crap.

 -doesn't hold a charge for very long.  Wonder why they didn't design  

 it for 12V ?  (actually more

 like 14-15V during run time)

 What say you? -and y'all too  

 BB

williamtsullivan(at)att.n
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: Firestar project

Thanks for the info on the radios, etc.

  I went up to the field today to check on the tie-downs- stormed recently- and to top off the gas. I decided to get in some slow speed taxi practice. The wind was gusty and variable. This led to some quick down-wind trips, especially when I went down over the slight hump at the north end to turn around. I usually had to kill the engine to slow down enough to make the u-turn- no brakes. It gave me a lot of in-the-cockpit re-start practice. Going back into the wind it wasn't so bad. Except towards 4:30pm, when the wind swung around to the east and gusted. I thought the right LG leg had bent, as everything leaned to the right. One quick look and a gentle left aileron, and I put the left wing back down. I had been running on the right wheel and the tail wheel, all at low speed. I quick tied the plane up, and tarped it with some difficulty.

    The engine still loads up on extended low rpm  running. I think it may be running rich at these speeds- under 3000rpm. It kind of bogs down for a couple of seconds, then clears up. I have to check the book and maybe move the clip.

    Also- more birds' nests! I don't know if we missed some, or the birds are still building. Maybe duct tape for a parking plug.

   

                                                    Bill Sullivan

                                                    Windsor  Locks, Ct

                                                    FS/KX/447

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Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:19 am Post subject: Firestar project

At 11:11 PM 6/3/2008, william sullivan wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

   The engine still loads up on extended low rpm running. I think it may 

 be running rich at these speeds- under 3000rpm. It kind of bogs down for 

 a couple of seconds, then clears up. I have to check the book and maybe 

 move the clip.

   Also- more birds' nests! I don't know if we missed some, or the birds 

 are still building. Maybe duct tape for a parking plug.


	


Not the clip, that's more for higher rpm, cruise power.  Under 3000 rpm 

you're running on the pilot jet and the low speed mixture screw (if you 

have one).



I fought the bird nest battle constantly when I had the T-Craft.  Make sure 

EVERY opening is sealed!



-Dana

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by0ung(at)brigham.net
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:31 am Post subject: Firestar Project

As long as there is some info on radios going around....  I have an  

Icom A-5, never used,

that I considered mounting on my MkIII.  If you want to use aircraft  

power the manual says you

HAVE to buy  an intermediate device to lower the voltage.  

 	  Quote: 	
		  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


	




I have been working on a project to do that very thing,,,,   I think I am

getting close when I get the last problem or 2 resolved I will post it to

the list.



Boyd Young

MKIIIC  500 + hours and counting

Brigham City Ut.



Do not archive

williamtsullivan(at)att.n
Guest

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:06 am Post subject: Firestar Project

Dana- I thought the clip on the Bing 54 was for a richer/leaner mixture to accomodate for weather changes. I have to read up on it. I have 2 screws- a very large one, and a small one near the air filter. I have NO experience with the Bings, and both screws are located on the prop side. I am not going to try to get my big fat hands in there with it running. It does start good, and re-starts easily, so I think it will only be a minor adjustment.

   

                                                  Bill Sullivan

                                                   Windsor Locks, Ct.

                                                  FS/KX/447

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Thom Riddle

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1597
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: Re: Firestar Project

Bill,



I suggest you acquire the Bing Manual at 



http://www.bingcarburetor.com/manual.html



It is about $10 including shipping and will tell you all you need to know about the Bing Carbs.



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ElleryWeld(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:12 am Post subject: Firestar Project

Bill

 that Large screw is your idle stop  the small one  is your low speed jet 

  

 Ellery in Maine

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  In a message dated 6/4/2008 11:06:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  williamtsullivan(at)att.net writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		     Dana- I thought the clip on the Bing 54 was for a richer/leaner mixture    to accomodate for weather changes. I have to read up on it. I have 2 screws- a    very large one, and a small one near the air filter. I have NO experience with    the Bings, and both screws are located on the prop side. I am not going to try    to get my big fat hands in there with it running. It does start good, and    re-starts easily, so I think it will only be a minor adjustment.

    

                                                      Bill Sullivan

                                                      Windsor Locks, Ct.

                                                      FS/KX/447

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Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject: Firestar Project

At 10:28 AM 6/4/2008, boyd wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  ...If you want to use aircraft

power the manual says you

HAVE to buy  an intermediate device to lower the voltage.



I have been working on a project to do that very thing,,,,   I think I am

getting close when I get the last problem or 2 resolved I will post it to

the list.


	


Getting the required 11VDC requires only a simple voltage regulator 

circuit... but engine power is typically rather dirty, so filters and such 

are necessary.  Seems I saw such a circuit somewhere online, but I don't 

recall where.



-Dana

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Dana

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Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: Firestar Project

At 11:03 AM 6/4/2008, william sullivan wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Dana- I thought the clip on the Bing 54 was for a richer/leaner mixture to 

accomodate for weather changes. I have to read up on it. I have 2 screws- 

a very large one, and a small one near the air filter. I have NO 

experience with the Bings, and both screws are located on the prop side. I 

am not going to try to get my big fat hands in there with it running. It 

does start good, and re-starts easily, so I think it will only be a minor 

adjustment.


	


Correct, but needle clip affects the upper midrange.  At WOT the needle has 

no effect; the main jet controls the mixture there.  At low rpm it's the 

idle screw.



See:



http://www.ultralightnews.com/enginetroublshooting/techtips/techtips2.htm

and

http://www.ultralightnews.com/enginemaintenance/bingcarbtuning.htm



-Dana

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human history... with the possible exception of handguns and tequila.

crad238(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:21 am Post subject: Firestar Project

William

  

          I  have been lurking here for years.  Please don't use the old gas for fire  starter.  It is extremely dangerous.  The fumes spread and cause a  small explosion.  The fire can leap back up the stream and cause you to  drop or throw the flaming container.

  

       Do not  archive.

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russ(at)rkiphoto.com
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:20 am Post subject: Firestar Project

Carl, NEVER pour gas from a container onto a flame! I thought everybody knew that. Pour some in  a small cup & toss that onto the fire if you must.Shouldn't have to use an accelerant with charcoal, anyway. Remember those fumes will go into your food.



On Jun 6, 2008, at 8:18 AM, Carl Radcliffe wrote:

[quote]          William

 

         I have been lurking here for years.  Please don't use the old gas for fire starter.  It is extremely dangerous.  The fumes spread and cause a small explosion.  The fire can leap back up the stream and cause you to drop or throw the flaming container.

 

      Do not archive.

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russ(at)rkiphoto.com
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: Firestar project

B illForgot to mention -- the Cessna 150/152 is a fine, tough little bird, hope you appreciate it. And the taildragger conversion is one cute little airplane.

i knew a gal who got her ATP license in one! -- when the regs simply said "applicant shall supply the aircraft for the test".

But it was a single-engine ATP -- only good for Cessna Caravan, Beaver, Otter & such. 

But she did it in her own 150! Good bird.

Russ

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