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n212pj(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: How many kits sold thus far?

Anyone up-to-date on how many kits have been sold thus far?  I'm updating

the stats on my web site, adding a GlaStar section, and getting the shop

ready to begin the RV-10 wings, finally.  



John Jessen

pascal(at)rv10builder.net
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: How many kits sold thus far?

you're website was invaluable when I started the project, glad to see your 

moving on to the wings after your break.



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From: "John Jessen" <n212pj(at)gmail.com>

Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 11:15 AM

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: How many kits sold thus far?



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 Anyone up-to-date on how many kits have been sold thus far?  I'm updating

 the stats on my web site, adding a GlaStar section, and getting the shop

 ready to begin the RV-10 wings, finally.



 John Jessen

jcumins(at)jcis.net
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:37 am Post subject: How many kits sold thus far?

I AM SERIAL NUMBER 864



John G. Cumins

President

 

JC'S Interactive Systems

2499 B1 Martin Rd

Fairfield Ca 94533

707-425-7100

707-425-7576 Fax

 

Your Total Technology Solution Provider



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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject: How many kits sold thus far?

As soon as Scott Gustafson identifies the Pro Built serial number of

Steve Raddatz shop that he purchased, I will update your records.  There

is also a Super RV-10 coming out of Medford, OR.



John Cox

#600



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bcondrey

Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 580

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: How many kits sold thus far?

What's a Super RV-10?



Bob



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Deems Davis

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 925

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: How many kits sold thus far?

I believe that RV-10 that's in Medford belongs to ShowPlanes  

http://www.showplanes.com/ click on their projects and you will se what 

they are doing. They've made modifications to the cowl ( a streamline 

'turtleback' and a new cowl, they also made some changes to the door 

mostly cosmetic). They' bee very sucessful in their fstback kit for the 

RV-8, and their flap position controller.



Deems Davis # 406

'Its all done....Its just not put together'

http://deemsrv10.com/



John Cox wrote:

[quote] 



 As soon as Scott Gustafson identifies the Pro Built serial number of

 Steve Raddatz shop that he purchased, I will update your records.  There

 is also a Super RV-10 coming out of Medford, OR.



 John Cox

 #600



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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1706
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject: How many kits sold thus far?

I've got 866, but that is from June purchase, so must be up a few from 

that now.



John Cumins wrote:

[quote] 



 I AM SERIAL NUMBER 864



 John G. Cumins

 President

  

 JC'S Interactive Systems

 2499 B1 Martin Rd

 Fairfield Ca 94533

 707-425-7100

 707-425-7576 Fax

  

 Your Total Technology Solution Provider



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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:34 pm Post subject: How many kits sold thus far?

Yes it does seem to be the Super RV-10 is Bryan's latest creation from

Showplanes in Medford at the web address you included.  It is

unfortunate that he has not shared his experience and opinions with the

rest of the email group up till now.  Maybe he just respects the policy

not to promote commercial endeavors on our list??  Many RVs (6/7,8,9 or

Rocket) are found with a range of his production items. As the FAA

delays again the policy change on Amateur Built it would be interesting

to track all the Pro Builders around the world working on RV-10 mods.

It is about time for china to start knocking off VAN fab'ed parts with

quick build assembly to compete with the other Asians, Russians, South

Africans, Aussies and Yanks.



If only the canopy was Carbon fiber instead of "latest composite

technology and weighs 8 pounds more on top".  I think that could be

"marketing speak" for more sanding, more dust, more cost.



Anyone want to take bets on the date in the future that the 1,000th

RV-10 kit is sold by VAN?



John

Do not Archive



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Jim Carey

Joined: 30 Oct 2008
Posts: 1

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: Re: How many kits sold thus far?

Hello all - I have kit # 40874.  Started building just after Oshkosh this year, just finished elevators and moving on to the tailcone this weekend.  I'm just beginning to think I might actually be able to build this thing!   

Better start keeping a log...

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Cabin top & fiberglass fun...

raddatz

Joined: 08 Feb 2008
Posts: 20
Location: alabama

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: How many kits sold thus far?

The kit that Scott just bought from me, after it was complete was serial #855 and the new kit that "I" just paid for and received last week is #913.  Steve Raddatz

msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: How many kits sold thus far?

SO I guess there's no mystery in why our 51% rule is under review with posts like this.  But hey, at least you can make money until it's taken away for good.



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AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: How many kits sold thus far?

the 51% was legally challenged by Joe Bartells, attorney and owner of Lancair International because the FAA inadvertantly removed reference docs from the website.  The FAA repented and extended the deadline to December 15th so Steve, Jesse, John and Joe could knock out some more non compliant Amateur Built Experimental Certificated Single Engine Land Aircraft.

  

 I was actually surprised that Steve who has never posted a meaningful or useful idea would take my bait.

  

 Gone Fishing



 

  From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)

Sent: Sat 11/22/2008 5:24 PM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Re: How many kits sold thus far?

  

--> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder(at)sausen.net>



SO I guess there's no mystery in why our 51% rule is under review with posts like this.  But hey, at least you can make money until it's taken away for good.



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raddatz

Joined: 08 Feb 2008
Posts: 20
Location: alabama

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:09 am Post subject: Re: How many kits sold thus far?

Let me ask this question, If I buy the kit, engine, panel and everything else that goes into finishing an aircraft with my money and name on everything and when its all done I put it up for sale, how does that differ from anyone else selling their aircraft. I have contacted the FAA and explained my process and they said I'm within the guide lines.

Now as far as meaningful post goes if I see something wrong or a question on either here or VAF that does not get an answer or the answer is wrong I email them the correct way and also give them my number.  I really try not to compete with other poster's on the site's. Each site has their main poster's and I'm trying not to be one of them because they get a bad rap as a self proclaimed know it all. Yes, its true that I have built many planes and I have used every EFIS screen avaible and five different well known engine shops, three interior shops, four paint shops. With that being said I do what works and is the best bang for your buck, also which companies to stay away from, who delivers what they promise when they promise it. But each person has their own ideas and tastes and I respect that so I try and leave my comments to myself. If anyone has a question about anything with their aircraft feel free to call me 256-443-1915. 

Steve Raddatz

msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:15 am Post subject: How many kits sold thus far?

Ok, seeing how you and the FAA feel everything is just hunky dory with your venture (even though for some reason they are trying to redefine the rule rather than enforce it for once) exactly how many aircraft have you built in say the last 5 years?  How long did it take you to finish the last one?  How long will it take you to finish the current one?



  Somehow I have a feeling these answers will give clarity to whether you are doing it for your own recreation and education and put any assumed perceptions to rest. I think quantity over time, along with intent, is generally the deciding factor on if you are different from anyone else.



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brenthumphreys

Joined: 17 Aug 2008
Posts: 21

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:13 am Post subject: How many kits sold thus far?

Wow, you are beating me.  I  

Started mine just before oshkosh.  I am one number ahead of you, and

just started the elevators.



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Phil.Perry(at)netapp.com
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: How many kits sold thus far?

Been at it for 15 months...  Just tearing down the tailcone for priming

and dimpling....



I obviously need to work quicker.  



 



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pascal(at)rv10builder.net
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: How many kits sold thus far?

what's the rush! Now that I'm doing the fiberglass I really look back on 

those riveting days as fun, heck this whole building thing is fun and a real 

blessing.. Now that I mentioned blessing, may everyone have a happy 

Thanksgiving!



Pascal



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From: "Brent P. Humphreys" <bhumphreys(at)stonetek.com>

Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:17 AM

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE: Re: How many kits sold thus far?



[quote] 

 <bhumphreys(at)stonetek.com>



 Wow, you are beating me.  I

 Started mine just before oshkosh.  I am one number ahead of you, and

 just started the elevators.



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