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jrlark

Joined: 03 Jul 2009
Posts: 72

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:19 am Post subject: static lines

Hi all



Just trying to assemble a parts list for Airventure and would like to use 

the Cleveland Tools static ports.  It appears they are designed for 1/4" 

tygon tubing which I have lots of experience with.



My concern is whether it is ridged enough and can support itself on it's way 

to the instrument panel from the tail ( ie will it sag and pinch itself off 

in between ribs etc?).



Other possible solutions would be Safeairs fittings/tubing etc.  Also ACS 

has their tubing etc.  General consensus??



Any and all opinions welcome.  Thx



Rick

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bcondrey

Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 580

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:29 am Post subject: static lines

I used them and transitioned to 1/4" OD tubing just aft of the baggage

bulkhead.



Bob

N442PM (flying)



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AirMike

Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Posts: 514
Location: Nevada

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:35 am Post subject: static lines

I have the Cleveland kit. It seems fairly rigid. Be sure to run an arc higher than the ports to drain water. I suspended it with tie wraps behind the cabin and then ran it in the regular holes protected with snap bushings. If you are really concerned buy some Click Bond fasteners to secure the tubing to the airframe between frames. You should look into the Click Bond fasteners anyway for wire runs. Way good stuff but pricey.

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rene(at)felker.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: static lines

I used the safeair ports, tubing and fittings.  Works great.  



Also, I think Stein is also selling the quick disconnect fittings.



Rene' Felker

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jeff(at)westcottpress.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:52 am Post subject: static lines

I've got the Clevelnd ports interfaced to Stein's static tubing with  

1/4" id clear tubing from the aviation department of my True Value  

hardware store.  It wasn't too hard to mount and support it all in a  

way that will not pinch itself off... I don't have any pics, but could  

take some in the next day or two if that would be helpful.



Jeff Carpenter

40304



On Jul 13, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Sandra & Rick Lark wrote:



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 <jrlark(at)bmts.com>



 Hi all



 Just trying to assemble a parts list for Airventure and would like  

 to use the Cleveland Tools static ports.  It appears they are  

 designed for 1/4" tygon tubing which I have lots of experience with.



 My concern is whether it is ridged enough and can support itself on  

 it's way to the instrument panel from the tail ( ie will it sag and  

 pinch itself off in between ribs etc?).



 Other possible solutions would be Safeairs fittings/tubing etc.   

 Also ACS has their tubing etc.  General consensus??



 Any and all opinions welcome.  Thx



 Rick

 40956

MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:42 am Post subject: static lines

Like others, I used Tygon to attach to the ports then transitioned to 

the stiff stuff and the quick connect fittings right behind the baggage 

area.  I had first plumbed it with Tygon all the way to the front but 

went back and changed it to the stiff stuff and the screw on fittings 

because the fittings are easier to handle than the barbed stuff.  And 

the stiff tubing may be tougher than the Tygon.



Remember that if you are installing  a GRT or similar system with a 

remote AHRS, you may need to plumb a static drop or two for he the 

AHRS.  My dual GRT AHRS is installed on the Vans supplied shelf next to 

the battery and pitch AP servo.



Bill Watson

40605



Sandra & Rick Lark wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Hi all



 Just trying to assemble a parts list for Airventure and would like to 

 use the Cleveland Tools static ports.  It appears they are designed 

 for 1/4" tygon tubing which I have lots of experience with.



 My concern is whether it is ridged enough and can support itself on 

 it's way to the instrument panel from the tail ( ie will it sag and 

 pinch itself off in between ribs etc?).



 Other possible solutions would be Safeairs fittings/tubing etc.  Also 

 ACS has their tubing etc.  General consensus??



 Any and all opinions welcome.  Thx



 Rick

 40956

Lew Gallagher

Joined: 04 Jan 2008
Posts: 402
Location: Greenville , SC

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:42 am Post subject: Re: static lines

Hey Jeff,



Pictures would be great.  Thanks in advance.



Later, - Lew

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hotwheels

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 240

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:45 am Post subject: Re: static lines

At one point someone gave me some leftover pitot stuff (not sure where it came from). It had crappy connectors - nothing metal and sorry cheap plastic. Anything that looked cheesy went straight into the trash as this system needs to be reliable (my wife always asks!).



I ordered the safeair1 kit from www.safeair1.com/index.htm. Nice stuff... but I have dual GRT AHRS and needed additional fittings than were supplied. Most of what was needed, I found (and ordered) from McMaster-Carr. Also ended up ordering a couple of multi-manifold fittings from Stein although McMaster has some too.



It's best to inventory everything and then figure out what's missing before going crazy ordering stuff. The attached diagram helped.



Regards,

Jay

5181K234 (Same as 5181K23) - Crack-Resistant Polyethylene Tubing .170" ID, 1/4" OD, .04" Wall Thickness, Green   http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/115/110/=2qpy9h



http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/115/170/=2qpruv

5111K385 	Polybutylene & Brass Push-to-Connect Fitting 90 Deg Elbow for 1/4" Tube OD X 1/8" NPT Female



5111K221 	- Polybutylene & Brass Push-to-Connect Fitting Swvl 90 Deg Elbow for 1/4" Tube OD X 1/8" NPT Male



5111K81 - Polybutylene & Brass Push-to-Connect Fitting Adapter for 1/4" Tube OD X 1/8" NPT Male Pipe



5111K271 - Polybutylene & Brass Push-to-Connect Fitting Swivel Branch Tee for 1/4" Tube OD X 1/8" NPT Male



Multi-Manifold fittings: http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/115/171/=2qput3



Clippard TV-2SP - Panel mount static Pitot test switch... 2-way toggle valve w/ 1/8 npt  http://www.clippard.com/store/display_details.asp?sku=TV-2SP

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jeff(at)westcottpress.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:12 am Post subject: static lines

I think this shows it...



Jeff Carpenter

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On Jul 13, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Lew Gallagher wrote:



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 Hey Jeff,



 Pictures would be great.  Thanks in advance.



 Later, - Lew



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 non-pilot

 crazy about building

 NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549

 Painting done!

 On with wiring and avionics.





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jochs(at)froody.org
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:51 am Post subject: static lines

Just a thought, but you might want to relocate the T on your static  

line so that it is higher than the port so that you will drain any  

water out of the static port rather than down into the line towards  

the avionics...



James



On Jul 21, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:



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		   I think this shows it...



 Jeff Carpenter

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 On Jul 13, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Lew Gallagher wrote:



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> Hey Jeff,

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> Pictures would be great.  Thanks in advance.

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> Later, - Lew

>

> --------

> non-pilot

> crazy about building

> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549

> Painting done!

> On with wiring and avionics.

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> Read this topic online here:

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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 52811#252811

>

>

jeff(at)westcottpress.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:24 am Post subject: static lines

Thanks James... I will.

On Jul 21, 2009, at 10:47 AM, James Ochs wrote:



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 Just a thought, but you might want to relocate the T on your static  

 line so that it is higher than the port so that you will drain any  

 water out of the static port rather than down into the line towards  

 the avionics...



 James



 On Jul 21, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Jeff Carpenter wrote:



> I think this shows it...

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>> Painting done!

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jim(at)CombsFive.Com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject: static lines

Jeff,You might want to re-run those static lines.  The "T" should be as high as possible so that water will run out of the lines not into them and collect / freeze.Jim CombsN312F Flying - 90 hours--------------------------------------------------------I think this shows it...Jeff Carpenter40304On Jul 13, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Lew Gallagher wrote:> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall(at)charter.net>>> Hey Jeff,>> Pictures would be great.  Thanks in advance.>> Later, - Lew>> --------> non-pilot> crazy about building> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549> Painting done!> On with wiring and avionics.>>>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 52811#252811>>>>>>>>>>   [quote][b]

nukeflyboy

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
Posts: 162
Location: Granbury, TX

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: static lines

All good suggestions but also consider using cable tie mounts (adhesive squares that you can run a tie-wrap through) to support the tubing runs.  I used the barbed tees because they work fine and are dirt cheap.  Once installed you never touch them again.  The slip in connectors are nice but totally unnecessary and expensive.  I used them on my O2 system.  Remember there is no flow through the static system.  Keep it simple.

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