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		carlossa52(at)gmail.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject: stuck | 
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				This is embarrassing.
 
 I am stuck. Literally. See pictures - this is an A6 pop rivet. It won't budge, in or out.
 
 Access from the back is rather difficult, as the rear and front rib are already riveted. The A6 is one of the two last rivets in this station.
  I can remove the rear rib, but that's my last option - and I still will have a stuck A6 after I remove the rear rib.
 
 Suggestions?
 Carlos
 CH601-HD, plans
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:20 pm    Post subject: stuck | 
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				Hi Carlos,
 
 The only idea I have is to use a dremel cutoff wheel to cut the 
 middle of the rivet.  Then either pliers or drill it out.
 
 Paul
 XL awaiting upgrade kit
 
 At 07:01 PM 12/10/2009, you wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  I am stuck. Literally. See pictures - this is an A6 pop rivet. It 
 won't budge, in or out.
 
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		Larry Webber
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:51 pm    Post subject: stuck | 
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				Hi Carlos  get on the band saw Cmake a two pronged tapered wedge
  from some scrap aluminum so that it fits snugly around and under the head of the stuck rivet  first apply some wax around the rivet warm (not hot) with apropane torch  C then tap wedge aggressively while still warm this is how i unstuck several a6 stainless rivs   good luck 
  Larry Webber 601xl /corvair chugger
 
   
   Date: Thu C 10 Dec 2009 22:01:36 -0500
 Subject: stuck
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 This is embarrassing.
 
 I am stuck. Literally. See pictures - this is an A6 pop rivet. It won't budge C in or out.
 
 Access from the back is rather difficult C as the rear and front rib are already riveted. The A6 is one of the two last rivets in this station.
 I can remove the rear rib C but that's my last option - and I still will have a stuck A6 after I remove the rear rib.
 
 Suggestions?
 Carlos
 CH601-HD C plans
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				 Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:01 am    Post subject: stuck | 
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				<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Hi Carlos,
   
  I would try to drive the center mandril out through the rivet, pull it  through with pliers or use a small punch to get it out.  Then you should be  able to drill the rivet out or maybe twist it out with pliers.  Just a  thought.
   
  Good luck
  Herb Heaton
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				 Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:12 am    Post subject: stuck | 
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				I use a spring loaded center punch to drive the rivet stub  out. Lot less pressure than driving out with a hammer & punch .
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		leinad
 
  
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				 Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: stuck | 
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				Carlos,
 Glad you got it unstuck.  Maybe I'm not up on the latest info from Zenith, but I think that should be a solid rivet. The drawings I have dated Dec 9 state "INSTALL EXTRUSION WITH SOLID RIVETS,  SAME DIAMETER AS ORIGINAL HOLE IN EACH LOCATION", and gives part numbers:
 MS20470AD-6-15 and MS20470AD-5-10.
 Dan
  	  | carlossa52(at)gmail.com wrote: | 	 		  This is embarrassing.
 
 I am stuck. Literally. See pictures - this is an A6 pop rivet. It won't budge, in or out.
 
 Access from the back is rather difficult, as the rear and front rib are already riveted. The A6 is one of the two last rivets in this station.
  I can remove the rear rib, but that's my last option - and I still will have a stuck A6 after I remove the rear rib.
 
 Suggestions?
 Carlos
 CH601-HD, plans
 stuck | 	 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: stuck | 
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				Dan, this is a 601-HD - you might be thinking 601-XL...?
 
 The A6 are used to hold four L angles against the centre wing spar. 
 These L angles reinforce the attachment of four nose ribs to the spar at the landing gear stations. 
  
 Here's a close up, bottom right in this picture:
 http://zodiac.pcperfect.com/images/CWing/cwing12.jpg
 
 In this picture, you can see the ribs in question: the two outer ones, on each side. Four ribs, 2 rivets on each one.
  http://zodiac.pcperfect.com/images/CWing/cwing15.jpg
 
 BTW, the pictures are from Don Honabach's project.
  
 
 Carlos
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 2009/12/11 leinad <leinad(at)hughes.net (leinad(at)hughes.net)>
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  Carlos,
  Glad you go it unstuck.  Maybe I'm not up on the latest info from Zenith, but I think that should be a solid rivet. The drawings I have dated Dec 9 state "INSTALL EXTRUSION WITH SOLID RIVETS,  SAME DIAMETER AS ORIGINAL HOLE IN EACH LOCATION", and gives part numbers:
   MS20470AD-6-15 and MS20470AD-5-10.
  Dan
  
  
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