Matronics Email Lists :: View topic - Coming Home to a Cheetah

Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists

Get Email Distribution Too! FAQ Search Memberlist Usergroups Register

Profile Log in to check your private messages Log in

Coming Home to a Cheetah

Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> TeamGrumman-List

View previous topic :: View next topic

Author Message

david555(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:12 pm Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

I just purchased a 79 Cheetah with the 160 HP engine – I had a 77 Cheetah 23 years ago with 150 HP engine. It was a great airplane, but I cannot remember how I used to fly it. Landing with or without flaps, Take off with or without flaps. I’m based (at) CPK – Chesapeake Va. – near sea Level. I appreciate any input. I hope no question is too stupid to ask. Thanks David O Boone

  [quote][b]

quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:33 pm Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

David, what does the POH say?

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From:  "David Boone" <david555(at)cox.net> 

Sender:  owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com 

Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:06:53 -0500

To: <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com>

ReplyTo:  teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com 

Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Coming Home to a Cheetah

I just = purchased a 79 Cheetah with the 160 HP engine – I had a 77 Cheetah = 23 years ago with 150 HP engine. It was a great airplane, but I cannot = remember how I used to fly it. Landing with or without flaps, Take off = with or without flaps. I’m based (at) CPK – Chesapeake Va. = – near sea Level. I appreciate any input. I hope no question is = too stupid to ask. Thanks David O = Boone

  [quote][b]

quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:33 pm Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

David BTW I own a 77 Tiger and I'm also based at CPK 249RR

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®



--

david555(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:51 pm Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

Tom, I haven’t received the Cheetah yet – should be within the next few days weather permitting. I just recall that when flying the previous Cheetah, I did not follow the POH for takeoff, I think I used flaps and the POH did not call for them. I believe it was something that many members of the AYA recommended and I tried it and agreed – but truthfully I do not trust my memory. David 

From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com

Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:26 PM

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Coming Home to a Cheetah

David, what does the POH say?

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

From: "David Boone" <david555(at)cox.net> 

Sender: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com 

Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:06:53 -0500

To: <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com>

ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com 

Subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

I just = purchased a 79 Cheetah with the 160 HP engine – I had a 77 Cheetah = 23 years ago with 150 HP engine. It was a great airplane, but I cannot = remember how I used to fly it. Landing with or without flaps, Take off = with or without flaps. I’m based (at) CPK – Chesapeake Va. = – near sea Level. I appreciate any input. I hope no question is = too stupid to ask. Thanks David O = Boone

 	  Quote: 	

0 	  Quote: 	

1 	  Quote: 	

2 	  Quote: 	

3 	  Quote: 	

4 	  Quote: 	

5 	  Quote: 	

6 	  Quote: 	

7 	  Quote: 	

8 	  Quote: 	

9 	  Quote: 	

0 	  Quote: 	

1 	  Quote: 	

2 	  Quote: 	

3 	  Quote: 	

4 	  Quote: 	

5 	  Quote: 	

6 	  Quote: 	

7 	  Quote: 	

8 	  Quote: 	

9 	  Quote: 	

0 	  Quote: 	

1 	  Quote: 	

2 	  Quote: 	

3 	  Quote: 	

4 	  Quote: 	

5 	  Quote: 	

6 	  Quote: 	

7 	  Quote: 	

8 	  Quote: 	

9

¦~²

  [quote][b]

quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:13 pm Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

David the POH calls for a no flap TO. Some people put in about 7 degrees of flaps on TO just about the same as full aileron deflection. I've never done it but plan to some day for short field TOs 

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®From:  "David Boone" <david555(at)cox.net> 

Sender:  owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com 

Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:49:06 -0500

To: <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com>

ReplyTo:  teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com 

Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Coming Home to a Cheetah

Tom, I haven’t received the Cheetah yet = – should be within the next few days weather permitting. I just = recall that when flying the previous Cheetah, I did not follow the POH = for takeoff, I think I used flaps and the POH did not call for them. I = believe it was something that many members of the AYA recommended and I = tried it and agreed – but truthfully I do not trust my memory. = David 

From:=  = owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com = [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of = quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com

Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:26 = PM

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: = TeamGrumman-List: Coming Home to a = Cheetah

David, = what does the POH say?

Sent on the Sprint=AE Now = Network from my BlackBerry=AE

From: "David Boone" <david555(at)cox.net> = 

Sender: = owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com = 

Date: = Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:06:53 = -0500

To: = <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com><= /p>

ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com = 

Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Coming Home to a = Cheetah

I just =3D purchased a 79 Cheetah with the 160 HP = engine – I had a 77 Cheetah =3D 23 years ago with 150 HP engine. = It was a great airplane, but I cannot =3D remember how I used to fly it. = Landing with or without flaps, Take off =3D with or without flaps. = I’m based (at) CPK – Chesapeake Va. =3D – near sea Level. = I appreciate any input. I hope no question is =3D too stupid to ask. = Thanks David O =3D Boone

 	  Quote: 	
		   <=

/span> <=

/span> <=

/span> 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		   <=

/span> 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		   <=

/span> 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		   <=

/span> 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		   <=

/span> 	
4 	  Quote: 	
		   <=

/span> 	
5 	  Quote: 	
		   <=

/span> 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		   <=

/span> 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		   <=

/span> 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		   <=

/span> 	
9 	  Quote: 	

0 	  Quote: 	

1 	  Quote: 	

2 	  Quote: 	

3 	  Quote: 	

4 	  Quote: 	

5 	  Quote: 	

6 	  Quote: 	

7 	  Quote: 	

8 	  Quote: 	

9 	  Quote: 	

0 	  Quote: 	

1 	  Quote: 	

2 	  Quote: 	

3 	  Quote: 	

4 	  Quote: 	

5 	  Quote: 	

6 	  Quote: 	

7 	  Quote: 	

8

=A6~=B2

  [quote][b]

flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:58 am Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

Most people probably follow the POH and take off  without flaps.  But you can get off the ground at a lower speed and in a  shorter distance with partial flaps.  You just may not be able to climb  quite as fast (ROC) with the flaps even though the angle of climb MIGHT be  steeper.  I always (almost anyway) land with full flaps at minimum  touchdown speed and typically hold the nosewheel off for some time after  that.  Just don't land at high speed on the nosewheel and start the POI  that results in a prop strike many times.

  

 Cliff

 [quote]   ---

quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:59 am Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

David, if you like maybe we can meet to discuss airplanes sometime. I have some tips on the Grummans that may be helpful (maintenance, flying, etc)

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®



--

ArjayS(at)AOL.COM
Guest

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:19 am Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

Ditto

But Roy taught me to bleed off the flaps on T/O while in groud effect. It's 

a habit I use to this day. Anyone else?

Rj Siegel    CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering

[quote] Most people probably follow the POH and take off without flaps.  But you 

 can get off the ground at a lower speed and in a shorter distance with 

 partial flaps.  You just may not be able to climb quite as fast (ROC) with the 

 flaps even though the angle of climb MIGHT be steeper.  I always (almost 

 anyway) land with full flaps at minimum touchdown speed and typically hold 

 the nosewheel off for some time after that.  Just don't land at high speed on 

 the nosewheel and start the POI that results in a prop strike many times

flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:35 am Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

That works, but I think I'd leave the flaps down if  there was an obstacle not far ahead and then "milk" the flaps up after clearing  the obstacle.  The 4 place planes have enough extra power for the plane to  climb well with partial flaps, like was mentioned about matching the flap to the  maximum aileron down deflection.  There is not much extra drag at that  point.

  

 Cliff

 [quote]   ---

allenc3(at)bellsouth.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:56 am Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

Always hate to get the flap thing going again, but what I usually tell the POH (no flap) people is come on over to my 2600 ft Florida grass strip on say, July 4th when the temp and humidity is pushing 95 and the grass is growing like 1 inch a day and take off with no flaps.



Claude Allen

Sent from my iPad



On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:15 AM, ArjayS(at)AOL.COM (ArjayS(at)AOL.COM) wrote:



[quote]Ditto

 But Roy taught me to bleed off the flaps on T/O while in groud effect. It's a habit I use to this day. Anyone else?

 Rj Siegel    CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering

 

 

  	  Quote: 	
		  Most people probably follow the POH and take off without flaps.  But you can get off the ground at a lower speed and in a shorter distance with partial flaps.  You just may not be able to climb quite as fast (ROC) with the flaps even though the angle of climb MIGHT be steeper.  I always (almost anyway) land with full flaps at minimum touchdown speed and typically hold the nosewheel off for some time after that.  Just don't land at high speed on the nosewheel and start the POI that results in a prop strike many times.

   

  Cliff

 

 	


 

    	  Quote: 	
		  



	


[b]

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

Did you just invite the SE region to a flap-flap party on the     4th???Â    

     Linn

     

     On 12/28/2010 12:52 PM, allenc3(at)bellsouth.net (allenc3(at)bellsouth.net) wrote:     [quote]       Always hate to get the flap thing going again, but what I         usually tell the POH (no flap) people is come on over to my 2600         ft Florida grass strip on say, July 4th when the temp and         humidity is pushing 95 and the grass is growing like 1 inch a         day and take off with no flaps.

         

         Claude Allen

         Sent from my iPad

       

         On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:15 AM, ArjayS(at)AOL.COM (ArjayS(at)AOL.COM) wrote:

         

       

        	  Quote: 	
		           Ditto

               But Roy taught me to bleed off the flaps on T/O while in               groud effect. It's a habit I use to this day. Anyone else?

               Rj SiegelÂ Â  CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering

               

               

                           	  Quote: 	
		  Most people probably follow                   the POH and take off without flaps.Â  But you can get                   off the ground at a lower speed and in a shorter                   distance with partial flaps.Â  You just may not be able                   to climb quite as fast (ROC) with the flaps even                   though the angle of climb MIGHT be steeper.Â  I always                   (almost anyway) land with full flaps at minimum                   touchdown speed and typically hold the nosewheel off                   for some time after that.Â  Just don't land at high                   speed on the nosewheel and start the POI that results                   in a prop strike many times.

                 Â 

                Cliff

                 

               	
             

               

                           	  Quote: 	
		  



	
           

       



3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

//www.aeroelectric.com%22">www.aeroelectric.com

"3D%22http://www.buildersbooks.com%22">www.buildersbooks.com

://www.homebuilthelp.com%22">www.homebuilthelp.com

onics.com/contribution%22">http://www.matronics.com/contribution

3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

onics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List%22">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List

3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

atronics.com%22">http://forums.matronics.com

3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

	
     [b]

rdp123(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:48 am Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

Claude, just curious about how much flap do you use?



Rick    Tiger 4542N   SMO



On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:52 AM, allenc3(at)bellsouth.net (allenc3(at)bellsouth.net) wrote:

[quote]Always hate to get the flap thing going again, but what I usually tell the POH (no flap) people is come on over to my 2600 ft Florida grass strip on say, July 4th when the temp and humidity is pushing 95 and the grass is growing like 1 inch a day and take off with no flaps.



Claude Allen

Sent from my iPad



On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:15 AM, ArjayS(at)AOL.COM (ArjayS(at)AOL.COM) wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  Ditto

 But Roy taught me to bleed off the flaps on T/O while in groud effect. It's a habit I use to this day. Anyone else?

 Rj Siegel    CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering

 

 

  	  Quote: 	
		  Most people probably follow the POH and take off without flaps.  But you can get off the ground at a lower speed and in a shorter distance with partial flaps.  You just may not be able to climb quite as fast (ROC) with the flaps even though the angle of climb MIGHT be steeper.  I always (almost anyway) land with full flaps at minimum touchdown speed and typically hold the nosewheel off for some time after that.  Just don't land at high speed on the nosewheel and start the POI that results in a prop strike many times.

   

  Cliff

 

 	


 

    	  Quote: 	
		  



	






3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

href="x-msg://31/3D%22http://www.aeroelectric.com%22">www.aeroelectric.com

href="x-msg://31/3D%22http://www.buildersbooks.com%22">www.buildersbooks.com

href="x-msg://31/3D%22http://www.homebuilthelp.com%22">www.homebuilthelp.com

href="x-msg://31/3D%22http://www.matronics.com/contribution%22">http://www.matronics.com/contribution

3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

href="x-msg://31/3D%22http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List%22">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List

3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

href="x-msg://31/3D%22http://forums.matronics.com%22">http://forums.matronics.com

3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

	


 [b]

allenc3(at)bellsouth.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:36 pm Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

About 1/3 or even with full Aileron deflection. As soon as I get positive climb, I bleed them off. 



Claude Allen

Sent from my iPad



On Dec 28, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Rick Pollack <rdp123(at)verizon.net (rdp123(at)verizon.net)> wrote:



[quote]Claude, just curious about how much flap do you use?



Rick    Tiger 4542N   SMO



On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:52 AM, [url=mailto:allenc3(at)bellsouth.net]allenc3(at)bellsouth.net (allenc3(at)bellsouth.net)[/url] wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Always hate to get the flap thing going again, but what I usually tell the POH (no flap) people is come on over to my 2600 ft Florida grass strip on say, July 4th when the temp and humidity is pushing 95 and the grass is growing like 1 inch a day and take off with no flaps.



Claude Allen

Sent from my iPad



On Dec 28, 2010, at 9:15 AM, [url=mailto:ArjayS(at)AOL.COM]ArjayS(at)AOL.COM (ArjayS(at)AOL.COM)[/url] wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		  Ditto

 But Roy taught me to bleed off the flaps on T/O while in groud effect. It's a habit I use to this day. Anyone else?

 Rj Siegel    CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering

 

 

  	  Quote: 	
		  Most people probably follow the POH and take off without flaps.  But you can get off the ground at a lower speed and in a shorter distance with partial flaps.  You just may not be able to climb quite as fast (ROC) with the flaps even though the angle of climb MIGHT be steeper.  I always (almost anyway) land with full flaps at minimum touchdown speed and typically hold the nosewheel off for some time after that.  Just don't land at high speed on the nosewheel and start the POI that results in a prop strike many times.

   

  Cliff

 

 	


 

    	  Quote: 	
		  



	






3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

href="x-msg://31/3D%22http://www.aeroelectric.com%22">www.aeroelectric.com

href="x-msg://31/3D%22http://www.buildersbooks.com%22">www.buildersbooks.com

href="x-msg://31/3D%22http://www.homebuilthelp.com%22">www.homebuilthelp.com

href="x-msg://31/3D%22http://www.matronics.com/contribution%22">http://www.matronics.com/contribution

3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

href="x-msg://31/3D%22http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List%22">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List

3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

href="x-msg://31/3D%22http://forums.matronics.com%22">http://forums.matronics.com

3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

	


 



===================================

http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com

 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com

"http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
	


http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution

===================================

t">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List

===================================

ums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com

===================================

	


[b]

JHOSLER(at)epri.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:14 am Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

If flaps are used for take-off I would not recommend bleeding them off until well after all obstacles are cleared.  You could find yourself descending back onto the runway or into the power lines you are trying to clear.   

   

John  

         

  

From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of ArjayS(at)AOL.COM

 Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:16 AM

 To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Coming Home to a Cheetah  

  

   

Ditto

 But Roy taught me to bleed off the flaps on T/O while in groud effect. It's a habit I use to this day. Anyone else?

 Rj Siegel   CEO/LoPresti Aviation Engineering

 

 

 

   

Most people probably follow the POH and take off without flaps.  But you can get off the ground at a lower speed and in a shorter distance with partial flaps.  You just may not be able to climb quite as fast (ROC) with the flaps even though the angle of climb MIGHT be steeper.  I always (almost anyway) land with full flaps at minimum touchdown speed and typically hold the nosewheel off for some time after that.  Just don't land at high speed on the nosewheel and start the POI that results in a prop strike many times.

  

 Cliff  



 

 

   

      [quote][b]

teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:08 am Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

Hi David,

Years ago I made the conscience decision to always land with full flaps.  On occasion, I'll practice no flap landings just in case the flaps don't come down.  I flew out of Lancaster, CA where the wind direction varied but the wind speed was rarely calm.  Landing with full flaps in a 50 knot wind 20 degrees off the nose became a no-brainer.  

As for take-off, I always take off with an inch or two of flaps.  The maximum deflection is equal to the aileron down deflection.  The only thing you need to remember is retracting the flaps once underway.

Gary



From: David Boone <david555(at)cox.net>

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Mon, December 27, 2010 12:06:53 PM

Subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah



 

I just purchased a 79 Cheetah with the 160 HP engine â€“ I had a 77 Cheetah 23 years ago with 150 HP engine. It was a great airplane, but I cannot remember how I used to fly it. Landing with or without flaps, Take off with or without flaps. Iâ€™m based (at) CPK â€“ Chesapeake Va. â€“ near sea Level. I appreciate any input. I hope no question is too stupid to ask. Thanks David O Boone

    	  Quote: 	
		  


  * AeroElectric www.homebuilth-=   --> 	


   



         [quote][b]

david555(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:11 pm Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

Tom, I think that would be good. I will be out of country till the middle of January. Thanks David

 

From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:57 AM

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Coming Home to a Cheetah

 

David, if you like maybe we can meet to discuss airplanes sometime. I have some tips on the Grummans that may be helpful (maintenance, flying, etc)

Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®



From: "David Boone" <david555(at)cox.net> 



Sender: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com 



Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:49:06 -0500



To: <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com>



ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com 



Subject: RE: Coming Home to a Cheetah



 



Tom, I havenâ€™t received the Cheetah yet = â€“ should be within the next few days weather permitting. I just = recall that when flying the previous Cheetah, I did not follow the POH = for takeoff, I think I used flaps and the POH did not call for them. I = believe it was something that many members of the AYA recommended and I = tried it and agreed â€“ but truthfully I do not trust my memory. = David 

 

From:= = owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com = [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of = quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com

Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:26 = PM

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: = Coming Home to a = Cheetah

 

David, = what does the POH say?

Sent on the Sprint=AE Now = Network from my BlackBerry=AE

From: "David Boone" <david555(at)cox.net> = 



Sender: = owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com = 



Date: = Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:06:53 = -0500



To: = <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com><= /p>



ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com = 



Subject: Coming Home to a = Cheetah



 



I just =3D purchased a 79 Cheetah with the 160 HP = engine â€“ I had a 77 Cheetah =3D 23 years ago with 150 HP engine. = It was a great airplane, but I cannot =3D remember how I used to fly it. = Landing with or without flaps, Take off =3D with or without flaps. = Iâ€™m based (at) CPK â€“ Chesapeake Va. =3D â€“ near sea Level. = I appreciate any input. I hope no question is =3D too stupid to ask. = Thanks David O =3D Boone

 	  Quote: 	
		   <=/span> <=/span>www.aeroelectric.comwww.buildersbooks.com<=/o:p>www.homebuilthelp.com<=/o:p>http://www.matronics.c=/span> 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
4

=A6~=B2 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
5

 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
9 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
4 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
5 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
9 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
4 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
5 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
9 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
4 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
5 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
9 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
4 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
5 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
7

Â¦Â·â€º~â€°ÃÂ²,Ãžg(â€“Å Ã“MÃ“GqÂ¢zÃÂ®

  [quote][b]

pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:20 pm Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

Better yet .... come to SSI for the convention and learn more in a     few days than you'll learn in years otherwise .... and you'll have a     lot of fun too!!!

     Linn

     

     On 12/30/2010 10:09 PM, David Boone wrote:     [quote]                     v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} <![endif]-->         <![endif]-->   <![endif]-->                

Tom,             I think that would be good. I will be out of country till             the middle of January. Thanks David         

Â                                  

From:                 owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com)                 [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On                   Behalf Of quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com (quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com)

                 Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:57 AM

                 To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com (teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com)

                 Subject: Re: Coming Home to a                 Cheetah           

         

         

Â          

David, if             you like maybe we can meet to discuss airplanes sometime. I             have some tips on the Grummans that may be helpful             (maintenance, flying, etc)         

Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®                      

                    

From: "David Boone"               <david555(at)cox.net> (david555(at)cox.net)          

                    

Sender: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com)                        

                    

Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:49:06               -0500         

                    

To: <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com> (teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com)         

                    

ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com (teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com)                        

                    

Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List:               Coming Home to a Cheetah         

                    

Â          

                    

Tom, I havenâ€™t received the Cheetah yet             = â€“ should be within the next few days weather permitting. I             just = recall that when flying the previous Cheetah, I did             not follow the POH = for takeoff, I think I used flaps and             the POH did not call for them. I = believe it was something             that many members of the AYA recommended and I = tried it             and agreed â€“ but truthfully I do not trust my memory. =             David            

Â                                        

From:= =                   owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com) =                   [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On                     Behalf Of = quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com (quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com)

                   Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:26 = PM

                   To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com (teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com)

                   Subject: Re: = Coming Home to                   a = Cheetah             

           

           

Â            

David, = what does the POH say?           

Sent on the Sprint=AE Now = Network from my BlackBerry=AE                                       

           

                        

From: "David               Boone" <david555(at)cox.net> (david555(at)cox.net) =            

                        

Sender: = owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com)                 =            

                        

Date: = Mon, 27 Dec 2010                 15:06:53 = -0500           

                        

To: = <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com> (teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com)<=               /p>           

                        

ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com (teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com)               =            

                        

Subject: TeamGrumman-List:               Coming Home to a = Cheetah           

                        

Â            

                        

I just =3D purchased a 79 Cheetah with the 160 HP =               engine â€“ I had a 77 Cheetah =3D 23 years ago with 150 HP               engine. = It was a great airplane, but I cannot =3D               remember how I used to fly it. = Landing with or without               flaps, Take off =3D with or without flaps. = Iâ€™m based (at)               CPK â€“ Chesapeake Va. =3D â€“ near sea Level. = I appreciate               any input. I hope no question is =3D too stupid to ask. =               Thanks David O =3D Boone           

            	  Quote: 	
		  Â <=/span>Â <=/span>www.aeroelectric.comwww.buildersbooks.com<=/o:p>www.homebuilthelp.com<=/o:p>http://www.matronics.c=/span> 	
0            	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
1            	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
2            	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
3            	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
4           

=A6~=B2            	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
5         

          	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
6          	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
7          	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
8          	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
9          	  Quote: 	
		  Â <= 	
0          	  Quote: 	
		  Â <= 	
1          	  Quote: 	
		  Â <= 	
2          	  Quote: 	
		  Â <= 	
3          	  Quote: 	
		  Â <= 	
4          	  Quote: 	
		  Â <= 	
5          	  Quote: 	
		  Â <= 	
6          	  Quote: 	
		  Â <= 	
7          	  Quote: 	
		  Â <= 	
8          	  Quote: 	
		  Â <= 	
9          	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
0          	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
1          	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
2          	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
3          	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
4          	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
5          	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
6          	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
7          	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
8          	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
9          	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
0          	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
1          	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
2          	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
3          	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
4          	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
5          	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
6          	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
7          	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
8          	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
9          	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
0          	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
1          	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
2          	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
3          	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
4          	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
5          	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
6          	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
7         

Â¦Â·â€º~â€°ÃÂ²,Ãž             g(â€“Å Ã“MÃ“GqÂ¢zÃÂ®       

        	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
8     [b]

quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:00 am Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

David,  

Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  I see a new Cheetah on the flight line at KCPK, is that yours?  

   

Tom Quinn  

2499RR  

   

       

From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Boone

 Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:09 PM

 To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Coming Home to a Cheetah  

  

  

   

Tom, I think that would be good. I will be out of country till the middle of January. Thanks David  

       

From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com

 Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:57 AM

 To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Coming Home to a Cheetah  

  

  

   

David, if you like maybe we can meet to discuss airplanes sometime. I have some tips on the Grummans that may be helpful (maintenance, flying, etc)  

Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®      

    

From: "David Boone" <david555(at)cox.net>   

    

Sender: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com   

    

Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:49:06 -0500  

    

To: <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com>  

    

ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com   

    

Subject: RE: Coming Home to a Cheetah  

    

   

    

Tom, I havenâ€™t received the Cheetah yet = â€“ should be within the next few days weather permitting. I just = recall that when flying the previous Cheetah, I did not follow the POH = for takeoff, I think I used flaps and the POH did not call for them. I = believe it was something that many members of the AYA recommended and I = tried it and agreed â€“ but truthfully I do not trust my memory. = David   

       

From:= = owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com = [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of = quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com

 Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:26 = PM

 To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: = Coming Home to a = Cheetah  

  

  

   

David, = what does the POH say?  

Sent on the Sprint=AE Now = Network from my BlackBerry=AE        

  

    

From: "David Boone" <david555(at)cox.net> =   

    

Sender: = owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com =   

    

Date: = Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:06:53 = -0500  

    

To: = <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com><= /p>  

    

ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com =   

    

Subject: Coming Home to a = Cheetah  

    

   

    

I just =3D purchased a 79 Cheetah with the 160 HP = engine â€“ I had a 77 Cheetah =3D 23 years ago with 150 HP engine. = It was a great airplane, but I cannot =3D remember how I used to fly it. = Landing with or without flaps, Take off =3D with or without flaps. = Iâ€™m based (at) CPK â€“ Chesapeake Va. =3D â€“ near sea Level. = I appreciate any input. I hope no question is =3D too stupid to ask. = Thanks David O =3D Boone  

   	  Quote: 	
		   <=/span> <=/span>www.aeroelectric.comwww.buildersbooks.com<=/o:p>www.homebuilthelp.com<=/o:p>http://www.matronics.c=/span> 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
4  

=A6~=B2   	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
5

   	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
9 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
4 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
5 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
9 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
0  

Â¦Â·â€º~â€°ÃÂ²,Ãž      

  

g(â€“Å Ã“MÃ“GqÂ¢zÃÂ®   	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
4 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
5 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
9 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
4 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
5 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
9 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
4 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
5 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
9

       [quote][b]

david555(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:16 am Post subject: Coming Home to a Cheetah

yes

 

From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Quinn

Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:58 PM

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Coming Home to a Cheetah

 

David,

            I see a new Cheetah on the flight line at KCPK, is that yours?

 

Tom Quinn

2499RR

 

 

From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Boone

Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:09 PM

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Coming Home to a Cheetah

 

Tom, I think that would be good. I will be out of country till the middle of January. Thanks David

 

From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:57 AM

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Coming Home to a Cheetah

 

David, if you like maybe we can meet to discuss airplanes sometime. I have some tips on the Grummans that may be helpful (maintenance, flying, etc)

Sent on the SprintÂ® Now Network from my BlackBerryÂ®



From: "David Boone" <david555(at)cox.net> 



Sender: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com 



Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:49:06 -0500



To: <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com>



ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com 



Subject: RE: Coming Home to a Cheetah



 



Tom, I havenâ€™t received the Cheetah yet = â€“ should be within the next few days weather permitting. I just = recall that when flying the previous Cheetah, I did not follow the POH = for takeoff, I think I used flaps and the POH did not call for them. I = believe it was something that many members of the AYA recommended and I = tried it and agreed â€“ but truthfully I do not trust my memory. = David 

 

From:= = owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com = [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of = quinn_tom(at)tqiinc.com

Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 6:26 = PM

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: = Coming Home to a = Cheetah

 

David, = what does the POH say?

Sent on the Sprint=AE Now = Network from my BlackBerry=AE

From: "David Boone" <david555(at)cox.net> = 



Sender: = owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com = 



Date: = Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:06:53 = -0500



To: = <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com><= /p>



ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com = 



Subject: Coming Home to a = Cheetah



 



I just =3D purchased a 79 Cheetah with the 160 HP = engine â€“ I had a 77 Cheetah =3D 23 years ago with 150 HP engine. = It was a great airplane, but I cannot =3D remember how I used to fly it. = Landing with or without flaps, Take off =3D with or without flaps. = Iâ€™m based (at) CPK â€“ Chesapeake Va. =3D â€“ near sea Level. = I appreciate any input. I hope no question is =3D too stupid to ask. = Thanks David O =3D Boone

 	  Quote: 	
		   <=/span> <=/span>www.aeroelectric.comwww.buildersbooks.com<=/o:p>www.homebuilthelp.com<=/o:p>http://www.matronics.c=/span> 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
4

=A6~=B2 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
5 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
9

 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
4 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
5 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		   <= 	
9 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
4

Â¦Â·â€º~â€°ÃÂ²,Ãž

g(â€“Å Ã“MÃ“GqÂ¢zÃÂ® 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
5 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		  /span> 	
9 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
4 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
5 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		  www.aeroelectric.com 	
9 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
4 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
5 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
6 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
7 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
8 	  Quote: 	
		  www.buildersbooks.com<= 	
9 	  Quote: 	
		  /o:p> 	
0 	  Quote: 	
		  /o:p> 	
1 	  Quote: 	
		  /o:p> 	
2 	  Quote: 	
		  /o:p> 	
3 	  Quote: 	
		  /o:p> 	
4 	  Quote: 	
		  /o:p> 	
5

No virus found in this incoming message.

Checked by AVG - Date: 01/14/11 02:34:00

  [quote][b]

Display posts from previous:

	Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> TeamGrumman-List	All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

Jump to:

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum